Jan 20 | National Championship

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This team would beat the '88 team and the '93 team....so I agree, this may be the best ND team I've watched in my entire life. Sad that they are without Benmo and Mills.
 
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I'm not sure if they beat the '88 team. I'd love to see that game. I do think they beat the '93 team.
 
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IrishLax said:
Connelly says this is the "best" ND team since 1992 per SP+ advanced stats, got me thinking... with a locked in top 5 finish, a major bowl victory (2x), and a program record in wins...

Is this the best season since 1988? Certainly since 1993, right?
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Yes. And I am very confident that next year's team will be better. Maybe significantly better since the offense should take another step forward.
 
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forkbeard3777 said:
This Ohio State team isn't the second coming .... not to derail the thread, but I truly believe 2019 LSU, 2020 Alabama, 2011 Alabama, etc. would annihilate this team. Hear me out regarding this Ohio State and why Notre Dame can and, more importantly, will win....

  • They're coming in this game with 2 losses already. They also had a couple of "shaky" wins as well (see Nebraska and Penn State).
  • Will Howard, like Leonard, has limitations with his arm. Howard, however, cannot run as well as Leonard.
  • J.T. Tuimoloau and Sawyer are really good players. They are not, however, up to Carter, Mykel Williams, or Jalon Walker's level. Point being, Notre Dame's faced better.
  • Jeremiah Smith and Egbuka are great. Tate's good as well. But, arguably Notre Dame's biggest strength (you can make an argument RB group > secondary) is its secondary. Ohio State WRs are going to make their plays, but at least Notre Dame isn't subjected to a "physical" mismatch that you simply cannot account for (e.g., Tyler Warren). And, again, Howard is no Joe Burrow... if ND can generate enough consistent pressure on Howard, that will really neutralize their receiving talent.
  • They've got good line play....well, so does A&M. So does Georgia. So does Penn State. Point being, Notre Dame has played comparable talent (some, with better individual talent) than Ohio State. This isn't anything new to Notre Dame.
  • Ohio State has been on a rampage since losing to Michigan. Well, take a closer look.
    • Tennessee and Nico were abysmal on the road all year (lost @ Ohio State, lost @ Georgia, lost @ Arkansas). At OU, Nico was 13/21, 194 yards, 1 TD. At Arkansas, Nico was 17/29, 158 yards. At Georgia, Nico was 20/33, 167 yards. At Vanderbilt, Nico was 18/26, 257 yards, 4TDs, 1 INT. At Ohio State, Nico was 14/31, 104 yards. Other than Vanderbilt, Nico and the Tennessee offense was extremely pedestrian on the road.
    • Oregon was an impressive win. I don't personally believe Oregon was as great as people may have believed (see the Idaho game, Boise game, Wisconsin game), but I'm not going to knock Ohio State on that .... that was an impressive win.
    • Texas had Ohio State 1st and goal on the goal line to tie the game and potentially go into OT. Sarkisian, the dolt, got too cute and wanted to run a sweep 10 yards deep and we know how the rest played out. Just run a QB sneak under center ... it's first down. You'll get in ....
Point being, I've listened to some ND podcasts and have read a lot of "regardless what happens Monday, it's been a hell of a ride" or "we're happy to be here and this season has been a tremendous success". Fuck that. Notre Dame can win this thing. Notre Dame has proven it can go toe to toe and blow to blow with anyone and physically dominate. Notre Dame's fast, athletic, and relentless. You've got elite coaching, a dynamic quarterback, a top 3 running back room, a consistent offensive line (especially given the injuries), capable WRs and TEs, an elite secondary, a fast, physical, strong defense. The team simply does not quit. Yes, some guys are going to have to step it up and play lights out (e.g. Clark, Sneed, Oben, Logan Thomas, Vilimia-Asa, Gray, Tuihalmaka), but this absolutely can beat Ohio State. It's mind boggling some of the predictions I've seen (mainly from Ohio State fans). We all know Ohio State and Ryan Day do not like physicality (see the Michigan game). Before the game starts, when they're warming up, Ohio State needs to be viscerally uncomfortable about the upcoming 60 minutes... Notre Dame has to take it to them. Lean on them...wear them down...and then break them.

Go get 'em, men. Go. Fucking. Irish.
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This got me all kinds of fired up.
 
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InKellyWeTrust said:
You guys should worry less about Ohio St offense (our defense will be fine) and more about Ohio St defense.
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This is fair. The reason ND likely doesn't win this game is that it is a lot to ask this banged up offense to score 24 points against OSU.
 
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thekid33 said:
I'm not sure if they beat the '88 team. I'd love to see that game. I do think they beat the '93 team.
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I know the game has changed big time meaning not sure that '88 team would beat UGA or PSU this year either. I think Rice would get murdered....Mainly because he wasn't a great passer and these LB's and DB's are just build different 35 years later.
 
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Jimmy3Putt said:
Awesome. Not sure the point of your post though.
You wouldn’t invite opposing fans to your home and neither would I.
However if someone does invite “close” friends to watch they shouldn’t be subjected to any rules.
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I assume he was kidding about the rules.
I was just kind of marveling at the concept of inviting anyone who isn't an equally-invested/serious Notre Dame fan to watch a game of this magnitude. No matter how close a friend. Have your friends over to watch the Miami of Ohio game or something. (just hope it doesn't turn into Northern Illinois).
 
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Kingbish01 said:
I know the game has changed big time meaning not sure that '88 team would beat UGA or PSU this year either. I think Rice would get murdered....Mainly because he wasn't a great passer and these LB's and DB's are just build different 35 years later.
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True

Both teams are great.

Both teams are going to be on the sign coming down the steps from the locker room.
 
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ab2cmiller said:
So you think I'm really going to kick them in the balls? It's a light hearted joke list that I'm creating to get a reaction. LOL
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ab2cmiller said:
Have some close friends that are pOSU fans that we might invite over to our place to watch the game. While they are "mostly reasonable", they are pOSU fans after all. I thought it might be good to lay down some ground rules.

1. Anyone who refers to pOSU as THEE Ohio State University will be asked to leave immediately.
2. Anyone who even comes close to lifting their arms over their head to start the O-H-I-O cheer, will be immediately kicked in the balls, no questions asked.

I'm looking for other suggestions.
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Have them bring their own food/ snacks. Bucknuts are cheap and will eat all your food and drink all of your beer.
No food or drink? Starve or GTFO!!!!☘️
 
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We have essentially been completely counted out of this game. At this point, only ND fans think we stand a chance.
 
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Guys, you won't believe this but I just heard Will Howard is expected to get the Bengals DC job. There are a lot of moving parts of course, but it would involve him leaving the team this weekend and would miss the game Monday. Apparently he's taking Chip Kelly with him. OSU is bringing Brian Kelly as the interim OC and hoping nobody will notice the difference.
 
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NDWarrior said:
I hope he's not taking any calls from a one Ryan Day! Only one coach beat Notre Dame this season. Let him tell you about it.
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Hammock had an interview earlier in the week and he was asked what kind of advice he gave Freeman. He shared coach speak mostly and said he was rooting for ND and Freeman. The interviewer said "Why do I feel like you want to be the only team to beat ND?" He then asked Hammock "If Ryan Day were to reach out and ask you for advice on beating ND what would you tell him?"
Hammock replied "After 15 games of tape, if they can't figure it out... they don’t deserve to win."

I took that as Hammock basically saying that he wants ND to win and if Day asked for tips, Hammock would tell Day to go F*ck himself. GoIrish!
 
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