Brian Kelly Revisited (RIP BOZO)

Brian Kelly Revisited


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rikkitikki08

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Just goes to show you a few things, the grass isn’t always greener and these things tend to work themselves out. His flaws are even more glaring in the SEC. Fuck bayou Brian
 

ab2cmiller

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I still contend that BK left entirely for the giant long term contract that would get him to retirement.

The stuff about "better chance to win a national championship" was just the excuse he created so he had an answer on why he left Notre Dame.
 

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Frame this

Kind of a humdrum take. The SEC preseason order of finish had us at 5th. I predicted we’d lose either 4 or 5 games this year. Who knows? We still may, but right now, they’ve overachieved. The defense, with who they are playing, have vastly improved. Nussmeier, despite his recent mistakes, is still one of the best QBs in the country. The disappointment is the offensive line and its running game/blocking. For all the praise of Will Campbell, Emery Jones, and such, it’s apparent they don’t like to put their hand in the dirt and get in a three point stance.

Point being, many LSU fans need to realize this isn’t 2019 anymore …
 
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forkbeard3777

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I still contend that BK left entirely for the giant long term contract that would get him to retirement.

The stuff about "better chance to win a national championship" was just the excuse he created so he had an answer on why he left Notre Dame.
Maybe. The past three coaches did win NCs there — namely, Les Miles and Ed Orgeron. Woof. If they got one and Kelly doesn’t …. Ouch. 😂
 

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I don't like the implication that there is some perceived flaw with Notre Dame. His last four years at ND we finished the regular season in the top 5 three times. Now if the headline was "LSU concerned that Notre Dame elevated Brian Kelly above his level of ability" I could get on board with it.
I agree. I always pull for and defended ND. The same old conversation was that they’d play a soft schedule, get into the Playoffs, and get smoked by Alabama. Unless you were a few teams, Alabama was smoking everyone …. That’s doesn’t negate what Notre Dame did or achieved and didn’t mean they weren’t worthy of a top 5 ranking.
 

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I agree. I always pull for and defended ND. The same old conversation was that they’d play a soft schedule, get into the Playoffs, and get smoked by Alabama. Unless you were a few teams, Alabama was smoking everyone …. That’s doesn’t negate what Notre Dame did or achieved and didn’t mean they weren’t worthy of a top 5 ranking.
Including the teams they played in the championship. But really the key to Kelly is that he needs time (and forgiveness) to build consistency and he needs an elite coaching staff. Until he gets his Diaco-Elko-Lea he's going to struggle.

This isn't a huge knock on him, most great coaches need this. Dabo had to have his forgiveable years before Clemson sniffed a championship, and it wouldn't have happened without Elliott and Venables. Kirby Smart needed Lanning and Monken to get over the hump and his first season UGA had 5 losses. Jimbo Fischer had 10 losses at FSU before the championship run and he had a first year DC in Jeremy Pruitt to help him win it.
 

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Including the teams they played in the championship. But really the key to Kelly is that he needs time (and forgiveness) to build consistency and he needs an elite coaching staff. Until he gets his Diaco-Elko-Lea he's going to struggle.

This isn't a huge knock on him, most great coaches need this. Dabo had to have his forgiveable years before Clemson sniffed a championship, and it wouldn't have happened without Elliott and Venables. Kirby Smart needed Lanning and Monken to get over the hump and his first season UGA had 5 losses. Jimbo Fischer had 10 losses at FSU before the championship run and he had a first year DC in Jeremy Pruitt to help him win it.
Which hopefully Freeman will get with Golden and Denbrock.
 

Jiggafini19Deux

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Nailed it. In no scenario is someone like Brian Kelly supposed to know what wind loads a scissor lift is rated for. He is not a "competent person."

The University is absolutely culpable for what happened, but the "Brian Kelly killed a kid" thing always rubbed me the wrong way.
It rubbed me the wrong way when he was here and it sure as shit rubs me the wrong way that now he is gone and our fanbase is jumping into the narrative. Disgusting.
 

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I agree. I always pull for and defended ND. The same old conversation was that they’d play a soft schedule, get into the Playoffs, and get smoked by Alabama. Unless you were a few teams, Alabama was smoking everyone …. That’s doesn’t negate what Notre Dame did or achieved and didn’t mean they weren’t worthy of a top 5 ranking.
You keep talking like this and I might have to start liking you....
 

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I still contend that BK left entirely for the giant long term contract that would get him to retirement.

The stuff about "better chance to win a national championship" was just the excuse he created so he had an answer on why he left Notre Dame.
I contend that BK never really bought into ND, had 1 foot out the door beginning in year 3, and was looking for the first good opportunity to bail after rebuilding his reputation after his disastrous 2016 season.

ND was willing to pay him. He just didn't want to stick around ND.
 

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I contend that BK never really bought into ND, had 1 foot out the door beginning in year 3, and was looking for the first good opportunity to bail after rebuilding his reputation after his disastrous 2016 season.

ND was willing to pay him. He just didn't want to stick around ND.
I remember taking the position that if ND was going to force his assistant coaches down his throat they should just move on with a new head coach. It all worked out better than I imagined (partly because the 2016 team was much better than their record) but I wouldn't be surprised if the events of that offseason stuck in his craw.
 

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I still contend that BK left entirely for the giant long term contract that would get him to retirement.

The stuff about "better chance to win a national championship" was just the excuse he created so he had an answer on why he left Notre Dame.
It was both.

He was making $2M a year at ND or so right? I can retire on that.
 

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It was both.

He was making $2M a year at ND or so right? I can retire on that.
His "Notre Dame" salary may have only been $2M, but his compensation was structured in a way that other outside revenue was part of the compensation package. I'm confident that he was at least $5M combined, but I don't know if anyone knows for sure since ND doesn't have to disclose.

I'm sure Freeman's comp is similarly structured.
 

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I felt bad that Kelly sent Nussmeier back out there in the rain for a nothing score, but it wasn’t the first time that Kelly sent a guy out there when he probably shouldn't have.
 
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