'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
Auburn
Bama
Colorado
Georgia
Indiana
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Mississippi St
Oregon
Ole Miss
S Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Tulsa
USF
Vandy
Va Tech
Washington
FAMU
JSU
SoMiss

Deuce Knight on Hudl

Watch Deuce Knight's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: George County High School - Boys' Varsity Basketball / PG / Class of 2025 / Lucedale, MS

www.hudl.com

 

[jprue24]

C'mon now jprue. Did iowa piss on your chips and impregnate your little sister?Good people here in Iowa... mostly.

 

[Bluto]

C'mon now jprue. Did iowa piss on your chips and impregnate your little sister?Good people here in Iowa... mostly.

Bret Oberg is the greatest quarterback to ever play football at any place ever located in Iowa!

 

[dublinirish]

FWIW Auburn plans to rotate three players at Left Tackle to open the season lol

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

As long as we can make it to TAMU kick off without him flipping i think we have a chance to still win this

 

[NorthDakota]

FWIW Auburn plans to rotate three players at Left Tackle to open the season lol

Omg what a mess

 

[GrangerIrish24]

If youre getting bored of talking about the heat in Texas, Loy just put in a crystal ball for Auburn.

 

[SDIrishFan]

If youre getting bored of talking about the heat in Texas, Loy just put in a crystal ball for Auburn.

Hasn't he done that like 4 times in the last month with Knight?

 

[Rockin’Irish]

If youre getting bored of talking about the heat in Texas, Loy just put in a crystal ball for Auburn.

I’m glad to hear it, looking forward to seeing where the staff pivots next. Somehow, I think it’s going to be a blessing in disguise. I also think there will continue to be drama around Deuce Knight.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I’m glad to hear it, looking forward to seeing where the staff pivots next. Somehow, I think it’s going to be a blessing in disguise. I also think there will continue to be drama around Deuce Knight.

Deuce Knight is an all time talent, but if he's not mentally ready to get to work and develop, he won't be that great. His track record moving schools and focusing on an upfront payment with much easier path to playing time doesn't seem like the person wanting to put the work in.

I may be wrong, obviously, as again, I think he's an unreal talent.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Deuce Knight is an all time talent, but if he's not mentally ready to get to work and develop, he won't be that great. His track record moving schools and focusing on an upfront payment with much easier path to playing time doesn't seem like the person wanting to put the work in.

I may be wrong, obviously, as again, I think he's an unreal talent.

I agree, it definitely hurts to lose the talent. I think it’s a huge mistake to pay barely a senior in high school (let alone just about any “employee”) a large amount of money up front as that would seem to remove much of the incentive to put in all the work necessary to maximize that talent. This is why I don’t think the drama is over and it will be nice to watch from a distance (even though I only live 100 miles from Auburn 🤣). Looking at CJ Carr’s apparent trajectory, etc……I think stacking Knight‘s talent into the QB room would have been a luxury, I’m not overly confident he would have been patient for longer than a year. I’m hoping ND can pursue the QB from HI currently committed to Cal but we’ll see how it transpires. It’ll be fun (or sad) to look back on this in a couple of years.

 

[a mike]

focusing on an upfront payment

This is pure butt-hurt speculation to preemptively sooth/cope a recruiting L.

As you know--Auburn has amassed much more WR talent over this and last year's cycle than ND and people continue to seemingly for some reason ignore the almost instantaneous shift in Knight's recruiting behavior after Meadows, etc declared elsewhere.

From the constant droning you do about the plight of ND's current WR recruiting--I would think you--of all people--may be able to sympathize with Knight's plight.

And Auburn is certainly a more comfortable pick for him being closer to home and within the region of country he is most familiar with by virtue of growing up there.

Go eat a pint of ice cream.

 

[Irish5Saint]

This is pure butt-hurt speculation to preemptively sooth/cope a recruiting L.

As you know--Auburn has amassed much more WR talent over this and last year's cycle than ND and people continue to seemingly for some reason ignore the almost instantaneous shift in Knight's recruiting behavior after Meadows, etc declared elsewhere.

From the constant droning you do about the plight of ND's current WR recruiting--I would think you--of all people--may be able to sympathize with Knight's plight.

And Auburn is certainly a more comfortable pick for him being closer to home and within the region of country he is most familiar with by virtue of growing up there.

Go eat a pint of ice cream.

Maybe the reason we don’t have jack at WR is that Deuce was singing a different tune about his ND pledge privately to other kids.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Maybe the reason we don’t have jack at WR is that Deuce was signing a different tune about his ND pledge privately to other kids.

I've wondered the same.

 

[PutuporShutup]

This is pure butt-hurt speculation to preemptively sooth/cope a recruiting L.

As you know--Auburn has amassed much more WR talent over this and last year's cycle than ND and people continue to seemingly for some reason ignore the almost instantaneous shift in Knight's recruiting behavior after Meadows, etc declared elsewhere.

From the constant droning you do about the plight of ND's current WR recruiting--I would think you--of all people--may be able to sympathize with Knight's plight.

And Auburn is certainly a more comfortable pick for him being closer to home and within the region of country he is most familiar with by virtue of growing up there.

Go eat a pint of ice cream.

My understanding is knight wasn't doing much to recruit WRs for ND as it's been known by most he was already one foot out the door.

I absolutely wanted knight in this class. I believe in Carr but I'd much rather have it be Carr/Minchey/Knight battle for QB in 2025, and if carr wins whatever happens with knight happens.

You mean auburn is a much more comfortable pick to not have to go to class so it would be like normal since he grew up near there?

Our WR room next year will look like this year with a few good transfers, everyone else just a year older. If leonard has the season we all think he will, WRs will want to come to ND more. The last 3 year hasn't helped.

Next year your starting with (before transfers)

Thomas
Faison
Greathouse
KK
Gilbert
Saldate
Williams
Colzie (maybe)
Burress

That's a really solid base, and you just need probably 2 transfers, for depth.

 

[NDFAN2008]

My understanding is knight wasn't doing much to recruit WRs for ND as it's been known by most he was already one foot out the door.

I absolutely wanted knight in this class. I believe in Carr but I'd much rather have it be Carr/Minchey/Knight battle for QB in 2025, and if carr wins whatever happens with knight happens.

You mean auburn is a much more comfortable pick to not have to go to class so it would be like normal since he grew up near there?

Our WR room next year will look like this year with a few good transfers, everyone else just a year older. If leonard has the season we all think he will, WRs will want to come to ND more. The last 3 year hasn't helped.

Next year your starting with (before transfers)

Thomas
Faison
Greathouse
KK
Gilbert
Saldate
Williams
Colzie (maybe)
Burress

That's a really solid base, and you just need probably 2 transfers, for depth.

I'd be surprised if Thomas or Colzie are both here.

 

[Irish#1]

This is pure butt-hurt speculation to preemptively sooth/cope a recruiting L.

As you know--Auburn has amassed much more WR talent over this and last year's cycle than ND and people continue to seemingly for some reason ignore the almost instantaneous shift in Knight's recruiting behavior after Meadows, etc declared elsewhere.

From the constant droning you do about the plight of ND's current WR recruiting--I would think you--of all people--may be able to sympathize with Knight's plight.

And Auburn is certainly a more comfortable pick for him being closer to home and within the region of country he is most familiar with by virtue of growing up there.

Go eat a pint of ice cream.

I always appreciate it when the smartest guy on IE speaks up.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

This is pure butt-hurt speculation to preemptively sooth/cope a recruiting L.

As you know--Auburn has amassed much more WR talent over this and last year's cycle than ND and people continue to seemingly for some reason ignore the almost instantaneous shift in Knight's recruiting behavior after Meadows, etc declared elsewhere.

From the constant droning you do about the plight of ND's current WR recruiting--I would think you--of all people--may be able to sympathize with Knight's plight.

And Auburn is certainly a more comfortable pick for him being closer to home and within the region of country he is most familiar with by virtue of growing up there.

Go eat a pint of ice cream.

The rumor down here (more than rumor, actually) is that Auburn did offer a LOT of upfront money, ND‘s proposal was incentive based but with more opportunity over his college career. Also, it appears his parents have been extended job opportunities by the Auburn faithful. Throw in the much easier academic path, maybe less complicated path to starting, appealing location to home and Auburn’s recent WR recruiting success…….I’m not sure ND could do much more. Better 2025 WR current class would have helped but not sure that was a difference maker. Hugh Freeze is also a good offensive coach (although not a great father figure to his players). Freeze lives in a similar realm as Bobby Petrino, IMO. At the present time, losing Knight stings…….will it sting in 2 or 3 years? That is something we don't know. That ice cream thing sounds like a great idea!!!

 

[notredomer23]

It was over the second he saw CJ Carr at Leonard’s get together in June

 

[Bluto]

The rumor down here (more than rumor, actually) is that Auburn did offer a LOT of upfront money, ND‘s proposal was incentive based but with more opportunity over his college career. Also, it appears his parents have been extended job opportunities by the Auburn faithful. Throw in the much easier academic path, maybe less complicated path to starting, appealing location to home and Auburn’s recent WR recruiting success…….I’m not sure ND could do much more. Better 2025 WR current class would have helped but not sure that was a difference maker. Hugh Freeze is also a good offensive coach (although not a great father figure to his players). Freeze lives in a similar realm as Bobby Petrino, IMO. At the present time, losing Knight stings…….will it sting in 2 or 3 years? That is something we don't know. That ice cream thing sounds like a great idea!!!

Is telling someone to “go eat a pint of ice cream” a legit insult?

 

[TorontoGold]

I always appreciate it when the smartest guy on IE speaks up.

Excuse me?

 

[MacIrish75]

I’m not here to dispute the veracity of the “Auburn offered his parents jobs tied to his commitment/signing” angle, but I just don’t think a lot of us can empathize with the enormous amount of weight that has to have on a kid. That’s about as dirty as it gets in my opinion, because from day one Deuce (or any other kid in this scenario) is basically operating under the premise that their parents’ employment is directly related to their performance.

It’s a whole lot different than just dropping a bag.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Is telling someone to “go eat a pint of ice cream” a legit insult?

Not if that someone loves ice cream!

 

[a mike]

That's a really solid base, and you just need probably 2 transfers, for depth.

Agree it's "solid" but not on the level Auburn is currently amassing. Plus a vision needs to be created for a recruit--and pulling the #1 WR in last year's class coupled with their outpacing us in this class creates that for him.

We can't just roll out "Hey, we got this walk-on lacrosse player and this other guy that caught 50% of his TDs against Navy you could play with in a few years."

The pitch needs to be much more impactful and much more recent.

Unlike most--you seem to be pretty discerning about ND's talent/recruiting in relation to the power programs, so not sure why you're not picking up on this obvious phenomenon going on with Knight more.

Were ND coaches to have delivered the goods and lived up to their promises, the doors wouldn't be open for schools like Auburn to enter.

To pin it all on Knight merely taking upfront money is lazy and childish and once again ingrained "Freeman can do no wrong" "Its just that pesky NIL" "His uncle is making him do it" "Haha, Auburn hasn't even won a NC since 2013" barfing stream of consciousness copes that has been going on around here since the beginning of August.

Not sure why everyone can't just take a major recruiting loss without feeling the need to whine about the recruit. Instead focus the blame on the coaching staff who's at ultimate fault for the failure.

Also, while Carr is certainly a nice, polished, player--his physical upside is somewhat limited from here. He would be superb distributing the ball to OSU or Texas type WR rooms. But given ND's WR rooms will always be mostly physically challenged compared to the elite programs (especially based upon the early returns on Brown) ND would otherwise need a supremely physically gifted QB like Knight to fill that void were they to go up against an elite defense. Think Vince Young against USC.

Carr will be sufficient to great against 99% of opponents but will never be able to bridge that gap.

To put it succinctly--giving consideration to NDs typical mid to above average WRs--ND has the potential to win a national championship with Knight. But ND cannot win a national championship with Carr.

You know this to be true as well.

 

[Bluto]

Not if that someone loves ice cream!

Makes sense if the person is lactose intolerant I suppose.

 

[Bluto]

Does Duece Knight like ice cream? Has Loy posted any intel on this?

 

[mrmcgrail]

Knight is pure upside he is the meadows of quarterbacks. He shouldn't be pushing for right away paying time in real games he's proven he isn't there yet. He has all the tools so he kills it at camps and hopefully for him he puts it all together but he is another insane boom or bust recruit especially with him not being able to stick last year and transfer

 

[stlnd01]

Agree it's "solid" but not on the level Auburn is currently amassing. Plus a vision needs to be created for a recruit--and pulling the #1 WR in last year's class coupled with their outpacing us in this class creates that for him.

We can't just roll out "Hey, we got this walk-on lacrosse player and this other guy that caught 50% of his TDs against Navy you could play with in a few years."

The pitch needs to be much more impactful and much more recent.

Unlike most--you seem to be pretty discerning about ND's talent/recruiting in relation to the power programs, so not sure why you're not picking up on this obvious phenomenon going on with Knight more.

Were ND coaches to have delivered the goods and lived up to their promises, the doors wouldn't be open for schools like Auburn to enter.

To pin it all on Knight merely taking upfront money is lazy and childish and once again ingrained "Freeman can do no wrong" "Its just that pesky NIL" "His uncle is making him do it" "Haha, Auburn hasn't even won a NC since 2013" barfing stream of consciousness copes that has been going on around here since the beginning of August.

Not sure why everyone can't just take a major recruiting loss without feeling the need to whine about the recruit. Instead focus the blame on the coaching staff who's at ultimate fault for the failure.

Also, while Carr is certainly a nice, polished, player--his physical upside is somewhat limited from here. He would be superb distributing the ball to OSU or Texas type WR rooms. But given ND's WR rooms will always be mostly physically challenged compared to the elite programs (especially based upon the early returns on Brown) ND would otherwise need a supremely physically gifted QB like Knight to fill that void were they to go up against an elite defense. Think Vince Young against USC.

Carr will be sufficient to great against 99% of opponents but will never be able to bridge that gap.

To put it succinctly--giving consideration to NDs typical mid to above average WRs--ND has the potential to win a national championship with Knight. But ND cannot win a national championship with Carr.

You know this to be true as well.

Wow that's a lot of words.

None of us know, really.

But in all likelihood, if I had to guess:
It's not JUST the upfront money and the jobs for his parents.
It's not JUST staying closer to home and the easier academic path.
It's not JUST the QB depth chart.
And it's not JUST the respective WR rooms.

It's probably a little of all of it. But we'll all pick our pet issues and harp on them until the Good Lord and Marcus Freeman deliver us a new QB recruit to talk about. Can't wait.

 

[a mike]

The rumor down here (more than rumor, actually) is that Auburn did offer a LOT of upfront money, ND‘s proposal was incentive based but with more opportunity over his college career. Also, it appears his parents have been extended job opportunities by the Auburn faithful. Throw in the much easier academic path, maybe less complicated path to starting, appealing location to home and Auburn’s recent WR recruiting success…….I’m not sure ND could do much more. Better 2025 WR current class would have helped but not sure that was a difference maker. Hugh Freeze is also a good offensive coach (although not a great father figure to his players). Freeze lives in a similar realm as Bobby Petrino, IMO. At the present time, losing Knight stings…….will it sting in 2 or 3 years? That is something we don't know. That ice cream thing sounds like a great idea!!!

Agree it's probably a combination of different factors as you suggest.

But this premise that it all boils down to him taking upfront money or his parents getting a job--especially as that all remains to be unsubstantiated--is the bad/lazy take here.

Ultimately, it's Freeman and the staffs job to fight through the objections. And if they can't--then it's also their fault for making a tactical error and squandering how many untold hours and $$$ on a kid that was never going to come here. Just like they did Meadows.

It's a results-based business model. And "trying really hard/best" isn't a result.

Produce on the field and on the recruiting trail or move on. The field production currently isn't there and I'm not sure exactly what's been going on over there since mid-June, but the recruiting momentum/production has been Willingham grade.

 

[Terry Jillery]

He’s not starting over CJ until his senior year regardless. I’d rather have a Deuce in the next class. Not sure we have that.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Recruiting at ND after about 5 years is gonna have Freeman looking like Obama does now from the neck up:

Stressed, thin, and all gray.