Presidential Election 2024

[Sea Turtle]

I wonder what had a bigger effect on damaging the middle class, Reagan’s tax cuts, or free trade agreements that shipped out millions of middle class jobs overseas with no plan for what came next.

The man was so bad that he only won 49 out of 50 states in in his re-election in 1984. Clearly the country wasn't too impressed with him.

He brought down the Soviet Empire.....but the war on drugs. He kept communism out of Central America....oh but you have to be kind of cut throat to do that. The appointment of the first female Supreme Court justice.....but the air traffic controllers.

He made Americans love and believe in their country again but let's pick out everything negative about him. Hey, he didn't do enough about AIDS in the beginning. I guess he should have shut down the bath houses.

Nothing he would have done would have pleased some of you. Interest rates slashed in half and the 1981 tax cuts. Inflation dropped in half. Tough crowd I guess.

Now lets pick apart Lincoln, Teddy and every other great Republican President you guys are bitter about.

 

[NDVirginia19]

The war on drugs.

How did the war on drugs destroy the middle class? I think arguments about the too-heavily handed policing on minority communities have validity, but I really don’t see how this eviscerated the middle class

 

[Irish#1]

 

[ulukinatme]

Something something accuse the other guy of that of which you're guilty.

 

[Sea Turtle]

Something something accuse the other guy of that of which you're guilty.

Between that and price fixing, it sounds like she's taking a page out of the Hugo Chavez playbook.

 

[TorontoGold]

I wonder what had a bigger effect on damaging the middle class, Reagan’s tax cuts, or free trade agreements that shipped out millions of middle class jobs overseas with no plan for what came next.

It's totally not exactly what a capitalist would want to have freedom to move capital between countries. Something about reaping and sowing.

 

[GATTACA!]

Damn it’s too bad republicans picked a felon rapist piece of shit that almost everyone absolutely hates or you guys could have prevented her from winning.

 

[TorontoGold]

Damn it’s too bad republicans picked a felon rapist piece of shit that almost everyone absolutely hates or you guys could have prevented her from winning.

I think it's the leftist media's fault? Or deep state something like that.

 

[NDVirginia19]

It's totally not exactly what a capitalist would want to have freedom to move capital between countries. Something about reaping and sowing.

Who signed NAFTA again?

 

[TorontoGold]

Who signed NAFTA again?

Clinton? Was he not a good capitalist president? Or is this the classic "if they are a Dem they are a dirty commie" that you guys love to say.

 

[drayer54]

Politicians in general lack the courage to do what everyone knows we need to do: raise taxes and decrease spending.

I think voters need to show the courage to vote for the responsible options. Granted, voters didn’t make Kamala the nominee, Joe is still giving handouts for student debt.

 

[drayer54]

Clinton? Was he not a good capitalist president? Or is this the classic "if they are a Dem they are a dirty commie" that you guys love to say.

Bill was not bad on economics. That was back in the day that the democrats opposed gay marriage, many had A NRA ratings, and only knew two genders. A lot has changed.

 

[NDVirginia19]

Clinton? Was he not a good capitalist president? Or is this the classic "if they are a Dem they are a dirty commie" that you guys love to say.

I’m not saying whether or not NAFTA was bad, I’m saying NAFTA was much more damaging to the middle class than Reagan’s tax strategy

 

[ulukinatme]

Damn it’s too bad republicans picked a felon rapist piece of shit that almost everyone absolutely hates or you guys could have prevented her from winning.

Is it November already? Why do you think she's got this wrapped up? She's done very little since she was gifted the nomination. What will you do if Trump manages to win again?

 

[drayer54]

Is it November already? Why do you think she's got this wrapped up? She's done very little since she was gifted the nomination. What will you do if Trump manages to win again?

Found my yard sign

 

[GATTACA!]

Is it November already? Why do you think she's got this wrapped up? She's done very little since she was gifted the nomination. What will you do if Trump manages to win again?

I don’t think she has it wrapped up but the shift from the Trump coronation republicans had going on while Biden was still running to the clear panic going around now has been delicious.

Grunt and bear it. Idk what other option I really have. Certainly not moving to fucking Canada!

 

[TorontoGold]

I’m not saying whether or not NAFTA was bad, I’m saying NAFTA was much more damaging to the middle class than Reagan’s tax strategy

It's really not even close. Trickle down economics and his financial market deregulation was a lovely precursor to the Great Recession.

 

[NDVirginia19]

It's really not even close. Trickle down economics and his financial market deregulation was a lovely precursor to the Great Recession.

One million manufacturing jobs left America just due to NAFTA, not to include the other hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs gone to China and others. The middle class has shrunk about ~10% since Reagan was in office, and there have been three Democrat administrations since then.

 

[ulukinatme]

Interesting breakdown in there.

 

[NDVirginia19]

I like how the defense that democrats have for this one is “well she isn’t actually going to implement it, it’s just messaging”

Like okay, just a blatant lie to get votes lmao

 

[Sea Turtle]

One of the greatest and most important speeches in history. I was a kid at the time and even I felt the importance of it.

 

[ulukinatme]

Damn.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

It's really not even close. Trickle down economics and his financial market deregulation was a lovely precursor to the Great Recession.

Uhhhh...no. The feds forcing banks to give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them was the cause of 2008.

 

[GoIrish41]

I like how the defense that democrats have for this one is “well she isn’t actually going to implement it, it’s just messaging”

Like okay, just a blatant lie to get votes lmao

Next she’ll say she wants to build a wall the length of the southern border

 

[Bluto]

One million manufacturing jobs left America just due to NAFTA, not to include the other hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs gone to China and others. The middle class has shrunk about ~10% since Reagan was in office, and there have been three Democrat administrations since then.

I mean all of that is the result of the economic models and policies the GOP, Chicago School of Economics and Chamber of Commerce have been pushing since FDR and Reagan was all about it.

The dog finally caught the car on this so to speak.

 

[Bluto]

Interesting breakdown in there.

Mass starvation and the end of America. Lol.

 

[Bluto]

Damn it’s too bad republicans picked a felon rapist piece of shit that almost everyone absolutely hates or you guys could have prevented her from winning.

Lot of projection going on.

Large segments of the right seem to do this pretty consistently.

The left is a danger to kids! Organized religious organizations abuse kids on massive scale.

The left is mortally corrupt! Televangelists and various preachers exposed for being morally corrupt and evangelicals vote heavily for Trump.

The left is trying to destroy democracy! Facilitate riot at capital in attempt to prevent peaceful transfer of power.

 

[ulukinatme]

Lot of projection going on.

Large segments of the right seem to do this pretty consistently.

The left is a danger to kids! Organized religious organizations abuse kids on massive scale.

The left is mortally corrupt! Televangelists and various preachers exposed for being morally corrupt and evangelicals vote heavily for Trump.

The left is trying to destroy democracy! Facilitate riot at capital in attempt to prevent peaceful transfer of power.

And the left are always saints, they would never do any of these things!

The right is a danger to kids! You're exponentially more likely to be abused by a teacher today than a member of the clergy.

The right is mortally corrupt? Maybe, but they're probably morally corrupt too! That thing that never happens just happened again!

Surrey Pride founder and volunteer facing child sex abuse charges

Stephen Ireland and David Sutton, both from Addlestone, were arrested on Wednesday.

www.bbc.com

The right is trying to destroy democracy! Says the party that has rigged their own primary in recent years, tried to remove the opposition from the ballot, has tried to imprison the opposition, has tried to assassinate the opposition...to protect democracy!

 

[ColoradoIrish]

And the left are always saints, they would never do any of these things!

The right is a danger to kids! You're exponentially more likely to be abused by a teacher today than a member of the clergy.

The right is mortally corrupt? Maybe, but they're probably morally corrupt too! That thing that never happens just happened again!

Surrey Pride founder and volunteer facing child sex abuse charges

Stephen Ireland and David Sutton, both from Addlestone, were arrested on Wednesday.

www.bbc.com

The right is trying to destroy democracy! Says the party that has rigged their own primary in recent years, tried to remove the opposition from the ballot, has tried to imprison the opposition, has tried to assassinate the opposition...to protect democracy!

Anyone that sexually abuses kids is a POS, not sure why you feel the need to link an article about since gay guys that did when it's just as easy to find straight conservatives that do the same. I think everyone can agree regardless of the person's sexual orientation they're a complete piece of shit.

Do you not think someone that has committed crimes should be held accountable? Because that's what it seems like when you make comments about imprisoning the opposition. Trump was found guilty by a jury of his peers. Just because people formally in his inner circle decided to flip on him doesn't make it in valid.

And I fully agree the Democrats have rigged their process for at least the last 3 election cycles. But let's not act like the Republicans and Trump haven't done similar. Hell the old man is still going off about how the last election was stolen from him when there's been no evidence and every time they tried to prove it in court it's been thrown out because lack of evidence. Just be consistent.

Former Texas GOP leader gets over 400 years in prison for child sex abuse

The former county official was first accused of molesting a child in 2019, prompting a further investigation.

www.newsweek.com

7 Times As Many Texas Republicans Have Been Arrested For Child Sex Crimes As Texas Drag Queens - Reform Austin

It’s become a core tenet of far-right Republican politics that drag queens and trans people need to be kept away from children to prevent sexual grooming and other crimes. In reality, at least seven times as many Texas Republican political figures have been arrested for child sex offenses as...

www.reformaustin.org

North Dakota Republican Pleads Guilty To Traveling To Europe To Sexually Abuse Trafficked Young Boys - Perez Hilton

A former North Dakota Republican lawmaker has pleaded guilty to traveling to Europe to sexually abuse young boys. According to a press release from

perezhilton.com

 

[ulukinatme]

Anyone that sexually abuses kids is a POS, not sure why you feel the need to link an article about since gay guys that did when it's just as easy to find straight conservatives that do the same. I think everyone can agree regardless of the person's sexual orientation they're a complete piece of shit.

Do you not think someone that has committed crimes should be held accountable? Because that's what it seems like when you make comments about imprisoning the opposition. Trump was found guilty by a jury of his peers. Just because people formally in his inner circle decided to flip on him doesn't make it in valid.

And I fully agree the Democrats have rigged their process for at least the last 3 election cycles. But let's not act like the Republicans and Trump haven't done similar. Hell the old man is still going off about how the last election was stolen from him when there's been no evidence and every time they tried to prove it in court it's been thrown out because lack of evidence. Just be consistent.

Former Texas GOP leader gets over 400 years in prison for child sex abuse

The former county official was first accused of molesting a child in 2019, prompting a further investigation.

www.newsweek.com

7 Times As Many Texas Republicans Have Been Arrested For Child Sex Crimes As Texas Drag Queens - Reform Austin

It’s become a core tenet of far-right Republican politics that drag queens and trans people need to be kept away from children to prevent sexual grooming and other crimes. In reality, at least seven times as many Texas Republican political figures have been arrested for child sex offenses as...

www.reformaustin.org

North Dakota Republican Pleads Guilty To Traveling To Europe To Sexually Abuse Trafficked Young Boys - Perez Hilton

A former North Dakota Republican lawmaker has pleaded guilty to traveling to Europe to sexually abuse young boys. According to a press release from

perezhilton.com

Yeah, you can miss me with all that. I wasn't the one that threw the first stone, and that was the entire point of the reply. There are no saints on either side of the aisle. You're right, anyone that sexually abuses kids is a POS, no argument from me there. But otherwise? There's no moral high ground between these parties in politics, they're both scummy and pretending they're not is disingenuous.