'25 MS QB Deuce Knight Auburn Verbal Ole Miss ???

Quarterback
Lucedale, MS
George County

Measurements
Ht: 6'4"
Wt: 185

Ratings
247: .................. #8 QB, #66 OA, 93 Rating
247 Comp: ..... #8 QB, #51 OA, .9729
Rivals: ............... #1 QB-D, #52 OA, 5.9
ESPN: ................ #2 QB-D, #133 OA, 82
On3: ................. #6 QB, #54 OA, 94


Offers
Notre Dame ......... Offered 3-17-23 ....... Committed 9-18-23
Auburn
Bama
Colorado
Georgia
Indiana
Louisville
Memphis
Miami
Mississippi St
Oregon
Ole Miss
S Carolina
TCU
Tennessee
Texas A&M
Tulsa
USF
Vandy
Va Tech
Washington
FAMU
JSU
SoMiss

Deuce Knight on Hudl

Watch Deuce Knight's videos and highlights on Hudl. More info: George County High School - Boys' Varsity Basketball / PG / Class of 2025 / Lucedale, MS

www.hudl.com

 

[NDQuebec]

With Deuce taking visits to Auburn and Ole Miss, what has ND done? Freeman has spoken about how important relationships are. Has Freeman, Denbrock, Gino, Bowden reached out to Deuce?

ND recruiting has gone quiet, I wonder what Deuce thinks going 0-3 with the WR we were after.

On a positive note if Deuce decommits ND has Carr.

ND needs some positivity, I am ready for this season to start.

This sport was so much better when it wasn't about business.....

It's always been a business. The only difference is that today, the athletes, that generate huge revenues, are starting to become a partner in the business.

 

[NeuroSelection]

Ramifications are different, but at its core it's the same.

It's a completely different scenario. We don't know if it's like Tillery or Taylor until signing day.

 

[irishandy]

It's always been a business. The only difference is that today, the athletes, that generate huge revenues, are starting to become a partner in the business.

I liked it better when recruits were not like a Ebay bid. Wasn't the whole 2022 Texas A&M class bought?

 

[NeuroSelection]

What does that accomplish?

Other than forcing a potentially generational talent out of the class...Not Much

 

[a mike]

Well shit...I just was trying to toss in some facts with humor and my opinion, but you just had to huh?

Here's the short and sweet version princess: DK is a kid, seems smart and making money while he can. Facts still have me feeling he's coming to ND, but that's just my opinion.

Never said I can't handle opposing views and I get we've been burned badly last few cycles, just said maybe it's best not have knee jerk reactions all the time. But you do you and enjoy it.

Unfortunately--this is a football message board and people are probably going to post about football things that piss them off on a football message board

Don't know what to tell you....

 

[PutuporShutup]

Unfortunately--this is a football message board and people are probably going to post about football things that piss them off on a football message board

Don't know what to tell you....

If we lose deuce, we just need to be really really really nice about it and completely understanding, so we don’t have to hear that it’s not life or death and the football program will go on.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Winning cures all. This might our most talented roster in 10 years if they don’t make the playoffs then something might seriously be wrong with this program

 

[PutuporShutup]

By all means. You and others of your ilk live for moments like this. Why miss out on an opportunity to give this board a lecture we’ve already heard a thousand times?

Because it’s players with this potential that ND needs to win it all…. Doesn’t guarantee anything. But recruiting like we currently are almost guarantees we don’t have a chance to win it all after this year.

This situation disappoints me, not happy about it, I also want to be wrong about freeman. We will see in 30+ days

 

[stlnd01]

With Deuce taking visits to Auburn and Ole Miss, what has ND done? Freeman has spoken about how important relationships are. Has Freeman, Denbrock, Gino, Bowden reached out to Deuce?

ND recruiting has gone quiet, I wonder what Deuce thinks going 0-3 with the WR we were after.

On a positive note if Deuce decommits ND has Carr.

ND needs some positivity, I am ready for this season to start.

This sport was so much better when it wasn't about business.....

Yeah no I'm sure they haven't spoken in months.

It was reported that ND was fully aware he was visiting Auburn (and you'd assume also Ole Miss). Most likely scenario, our stance is "you're curious, go see what's out there, settle this once and for all before your senior year starts," and we're confident enough that in the end he won't be swayed by perennial SEC also-rans and sticks with his original choice to get out of his natural comfort zone and do great things. Because also let's be real, if he picks Ole Miss or Auburn it's not because he wants to win championships. His loss. We'll be fine. Even at this relatively late date in the cycle, there are other fish in the sea.

 

[TorontoGold]

With Deuce taking visits to Auburn and Ole Miss, what has ND done? Freeman has spoken about how important relationships are. Has Freeman, Denbrock, Gino, Bowden reached out to Deuce?

ND recruiting has gone quiet, I wonder what Deuce thinks going 0-3 with the WR we were after.

On a positive note if Deuce decommits ND has Carr.

ND needs some positivity, I am ready for this season to start.

This sport was so much better when it wasn't about business.....

I can guarantee you MF doing coachspeak about relationships has nothing to do with Deuce. If he's taking digs at Deuce in your scenario - he should be fired because he would be unfit to be the HC.

Recruiting has always been about business, if it wasn't, we wouldn't get to see Elite 11 etc.

 

[JD Irish]

Winning cures all. This might our most talented roster in 10 years if they don’t make the playoffs then something might seriously be wrong with this program

Making a 12 team playoff isn't good enough--not even close. It is time to win a national championship.

 

[IrishSpartan]

This is why signing your class so early is dumb. You lose all momentum.

 

[a mike]

Business relationships are all about leverage

Knight probably feels like he has all the leverage in this situation. ND probably feels like they have very little at this point

And I'm not even throwing shade at Knight. If he doesn't want to come to ND that's his perogative. If he does then cool

That's why these prolonged all our eggs in one basket recruitments with elite recruits are a bad strategy

Because the closer it gets to Signing Day--the more leverage a school loses and the more the recruit gains

Let's be honest, ND basically forced/leveraged Knight into an early commitment to start off their relationship using that Bear guy or whatever his name was

Now it's Knight's turn and ND has basically put themselves into the situation and have nobody to blame put themselves

They did the same thing with Meadows

And also with Grubb/Hart. Guarantee Grubb eventually looks around because--why wouldn't he? Especially if schools are throwing money at him

Freeman may be good at interpersonal relationships on the recruiting trail but it also takes savvy, especially now with NIL.

And right now, his strategies and methods with the very top tier recruits just clearly isn't working at a high hit rate and he needs to rethink it

And anyone that just wants to poo-poo away what happened in July are whistling past the graveyard. There obviously was a disconnect between what the staff thought was going to happen and what actually happened

 

[NeuroSelection]

That's why these prolonged all our eggs in one basket recruitments with elite recruits are a bad strategy

Because the closer it gets to Signing Day--the more leverage a school loses and the more the recruit gains

With other positions I agree, focusing on getting one player to commit early is a bad strategy. But, at QB that's how it has to be. They can't really recruit more than one top talent at QB to commit without forcing the other QB to reconsider/leave. And they need to get a QB as early in the cycle as possible, it (usually) helps build the class to have a leader locked up (even though it hasn't helped with WR at all this cycle, generally speaking it would). Any other position, this rings true because you can recruit multiple WRs, DL etc., and have them all see the field. Georgia, Texas, Michigan and Oklahoma all have a QB committed for 2026, it's how top teams recruit this position.

 

[NeuroSelection]

And also with Grubb/Hart. Guarantee Grubb eventually looks around because--why wouldn't he? Especially if schools are throwing money at him

I'm not sure if Grubbs recruitment will look like this. Deuce made it clear from the get go that he was going to talk to other teams/coaches. Grubbs has taken the opposite approach and so far, been vocal about shutting down his recruitment. Their strategy to recruit QBs isn't bad, so far it's resulted in what appear to be massive improvements at the position from previous eras, even if it's turned into a rollercoaster this cycle.

 

[pumpdog20]

Maybe Deuce is upset some people voted Riley Leonard as a better dunker.

 

[ColinKSU]

With Deuce taking visits to Auburn and Ole Miss, what has ND done? Freeman has spoken about how important relationships are. Has Freeman, Denbrock, Gino, Bowden reached out to Deuce?

ND recruiting has gone quiet, I wonder what Deuce thinks going 0-3 with the WR we were after.

On a positive note if Deuce decommits ND has Carr.

ND needs some positivity, I am ready for this season to start.

This sport was so much better when it wasn't about business.....

Historically under Freeman? Not flipping highly rated commits from other schools, that’s for sure.

But maybe Wisconsin has someone who might be interested…

 

[stlnd01]

That's why these prolonged all our eggs in one basket recruitments with elite recruits are a bad strategy

Because the closer it gets to Signing Day--the more leverage a school loses and the more the recruit gains

Let's be honest, ND basically forced/leveraged Knight into an early commitment to start off their relationship using that Bear guy or whatever his name was

Now it's Knight's turn and ND has basically put themselves into the situation and have nobody to blame put themselves

It would be interesting, some cycle, to watch us try the opposite approach. Not lock down a QB early, but rather try and flip someone late (And it would have to be a flip. Only one of the top 50 QBs in the 247 Composite right now is uncommitted, some mid three-star from Alabama).

That's sort of how it worked out, unintentionally, with Moore/Minchey a couple of years ago, but I don't think it's how most programs prefer to operate, for the reasons Neuro cited, and it probably doesn't land you an elite QB in the end. You're correct that the recruit has all the leverage in this scenario, but I don't know what you do about that, especially when it comes to quarterbacks.

 

[Irish#1]

Unfortunately--this is a football message board and people are probably going to post about football things that piss them off on a football message board

Don't know what to tell you....

If we lose deuce, we just need to be really really really nice about it and completely understanding, so we don’t have to hear that it’s not life or death and the football program will go on.

Get a room you two.

 

[Hautian Domer]

Yeah no I'm sure they haven't spoken in months.

It was reported that ND was fully aware he was visiting Auburn (and you'd assume also Ole Miss). Most likely scenario, our stance is "you're curious, go see what's out there, settle this once and for all before your senior year starts," and we're confident enough that in the end he won't be swayed by perennial SEC also-rans and sticks with his original choice to get out of his natural comfort zone and do great things. Because also let's be real, if he picks Ole Miss or Auburn it's not because he wants to win championships. His loss. We'll be fine. Even at this relatively late date in the cycle, there are other fish in the sea.

Not so sure about that one. Auburn has won one fairly recently, lost won about 10 years ago, and then had that undefeated team about 20 years ago. Ole Miss is on the up and up as well.

I just never felt confident about pulling a kid from the heart of rural Mississippi that has no Notre Dame and Catholic ties.

I’ll remain optimistic, but truthfully, I’d understand if he ended up at Auburn or Ole Miss. It’s not a culture shock, close to home, his parents could travel to the games.

 

[stlnd01]

Not so sure about that one. Auburn has won one fairly recently, lost won about 10 years ago, and then had that undefeated team about 20 years ago. Ole Miss is on the up and up as well.

I just never felt confident about pulling a kid from the heart of rural Mississippi that has no Notre Dame and Catholic ties.

I’ll remain optimistic, but truthfully, I’d understand if he ended up at Auburn or Ole Miss. It’s not a culture shock, close to home, his parents could travel to the games.

Same, frankly. But until now he has seemed all good.

I am aware Auburn has occasionally hit it big. More often they suck. Ole Miss is an eternal tease; they never even actually hit it big. If he picks one of those it's b/c close to home/money/depth chart reasons. Probably some combo of all three. Which is totally fine.
But you don't turn down Notre Dame for Auburn or Ole Miss if your goal is playing on the big stage and winning a national championship. They are not Bama or even LSU in that regard.

 

[LincolnBlocks]

Anyone who believed Deuce Knight would ever play for Notre Dame is smoking the good stuff.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Get a room you two.

Don't need a room when you're the "same" person

 

[yankeehater]

Recruitments like this are the very reason I do not follow it anymore. I just look at the team once we get to opening week. That is who I care about!

 

[Irish#1]

Recruitments like this are the very reason I do not follow it anymore. I just look at the team once we get to opening week. That is who I care about!

That's basically where I'm at. I'll read about the recruits and make the occasional comment, but by in large, just give me a roster to look at.

 

[Some Irish Bloke]

Unfortunately--this is a football message board and people are probably going to post about football things that piss them off on a football message board

Don't know what to tell you....

If we lose deuce, we just need to be really really really nice about it and completely understanding, so we don’t have to hear that it’s not life or death and the football program will go on.

Aw you two are so cute together

EDIT: I see @Irish#1 already beat me to the punch lol, good stuff my friend.

 

[NDohio]

Recruitments like this are the very reason I do not follow it anymore. I just look at the team once we get to opening week. That is who I care about!

I only follow recruiting for the recipes...

 

[ColinKSU]

Business relationships are all about leverage

Knight probably feels like he has all the leverage in this situation. ND probably feels like they have very little at this point

And I'm not even throwing shade at Knight. If he doesn't want to come to ND that's his perogative. If he does then cool

That's why these prolonged all our eggs in one basket recruitments with elite recruits are a bad strategy

Because the closer it gets to Signing Day--the more leverage a school loses and the more the recruit gains

Let's be honest, ND basically forced/leveraged Knight into an early commitment to start off their relationship using that Bear guy or whatever his name was

Now it's Knight's turn and ND has basically put themselves into the situation and have nobody to blame put themselves

They did the same thing with Meadows

And also with Grubb/Hart. Guarantee Grubb eventually looks around because--why wouldn't he? Especially if schools are throwing money at him

Freeman may be good at interpersonal relationships on the recruiting trail but it also takes savvy, especially now with NIL.

And right now, his strategies and methods with the very top tier recruits just clearly isn't working at a high hit rate and he needs to rethink it

And anyone that just wants to poo-poo away what happened in July are whistling past the graveyard. There obviously was a disconnect between what the staff thought was going to happen and what actually happened

Notre Dame’s approach to recruiting the highest tier prospects and what happened in July are both things where it’s like … I don’t have to be an expert to know something is wrong.

They *can* get a five-star to verbal, but they typically don't hang on to them and they *definitely* don't flip any other team's Deuce Knight. When's the last time that happened in reverse? Because Alabama had no problem taking our top verbal, Oklahoma had no problem taking one of them, Michigan had no problem taking one of them, Auburn and Ole Miss seem to be setting up nicely to take one of them...

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I only follow recruiting for the recipes...

I have several pages of notes ready to be posted

 

[TorontoGold]

Notre Dame’s approach to recruiting the highest tier prospects and what happened in July are both things where it’s like … I don’t have to be an expert to know something is wrong.

They *can* get a five-star to verbal, but they typically don't hang on to them and they *definitely* don't flip any other team's Deuce Knight. When's the last time that happened in reverse? Because Alabama had no problem taking our top verbal, Oklahoma had no problem taking one of them, Michigan had no problem taking one of them, Auburn and Ole Miss seem to be setting up nicely to take one of them...

Best I can do....

KVA from the clutches of OSU?
Cam Williams from Mich?
.....
Jaylen Sneed from southern powerhouse South Carolina?!