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A poll taken in late May and early June by a well-known pollster based in the West Bank, the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research, found that 73% of respondents in the West Bank supported the October attack by Hamas, that 82% of respondents in the West Bank were satisfied with Hamas’ performance in the current war with Israel and that 71% of respondents in the West Bank preferred Hamas to control the Gaza Strip after the war. Hamas scored better on all of those questions among the respondents in the West Bank than it did among the respondents in Gaza.

In addition, Hamas had the support of about half the West Bank respondents who said they would vote in hypothetical parliamentary elections – double its support level in a poll nine months prior and more than double West Bank respondents’ support in the latest poll for more moderate rival Fatah.
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From my understanding Joe and Kammy won't attend either. Anyone know who arranged this?
 
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calvegas04 said:
Blows my mind how this is allowed, and yes it also happened during the last admin.
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I'm all for free speech and the right to protest peacefully, but free speech doesn't include threats or incitements to violence, and the right to protest doesn't cover violence and vandalism and assault. I've seen enough of this in recent years that I'm about ready to let the police and National Guard start making believers of these assholes. You want to march and chant and hold up signs, I'll support you all day long, even if I disagree with your position, as long as you don't use violence, harassment, threats, or vandalism. You cross that line, and I'm ready to see the authorities start using rubber bullets, truncheons, tear gas or pepper spray, or whatever it takes to end this nonsense. Lock them up and make it hurt. No light fines. Put them in a work camp for a few months and double the sentence with each subsequent offense. Several months spreading asphalt, scrubbing buildings, pulling weeds, and doing something positive for society might change some behaviors. There need to be significant and EFFECTIVE consequences to rioting and vandalism and violence.
 
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Bishop2b5 said:
I'm all for free speech and the right to protest peacefully, but free speech doesn't include threats or incitements to violence, and the right to protest doesn't cover violence and vandalism and assault. I've seen enough of this in recent years that I'm about ready to let the police and National Guard start making believers of these assholes. You want to march and chant and hold up signs, I'll support you all day long, even if I disagree with your position, as long as you don't use violence, harassment, threats, or vandalism. You cross that line, and I'm ready to see the authorities start using rubber bullets, truncheons, tear gas or pepper spray, or whatever it takes to end this nonsense. Lock them up and make it hurt. No light fines. Put them in a work camp for a few months and double the sentence with each subsequent offense. Several months spreading asphalt, scrubbing buildings, pulling weeds, and doing something positive for society might change some behaviors. There need to be significant and EFFECTIVE consequences to rioting and vandalism and violence.
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To me you burn the US flag and you are on the bus to the nearest boarder.
 
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calvegas04 said:
To me you burn the US flag and you are on the bus to the nearest boarder.
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I get why it's protected as free speech and as much as I dislike someone doing it, I wouldn't criminalize it. However, I'm with you on showing them the door if they do. You want to protest some action the country is taking? That's fine. You burn the flag? You're showing you hate your country. We'll help you to the exit door so you can find a place you like better.
 
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Burning your own American flag that you purchase and own is constitutionally protected by the 1st amendment. Taking down an American flag on federal property and burning it is not, and is punishable by up to 10 years. But don't worry, we'll arrest grandma for walking around the capitol on January 6th, but somehow I don't think the FBI will be able to crack the case on these riots.
 
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NDVirginia19 said:
Taking down an American flag on federal property and burning it is not, and is punishable by up to 10 years. But don't worry, we'll arrest grandma for walking around the capitol on January 6th, but somehow I don't think the FBI will be able to crack the case on these riots.
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Should arrest both
 
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Looks like Venezuela may finally be revolting against the president after he took over the polling stations and declared himself the winner yesterday.

 
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Maybe we should apply sanctions on the exportation of Venezuela's most valuable commodity - oil. That way the next Democrat president can relieve those sanctions for domestic political benefit in exchange for Venezuela to promise to have free and fair elections.
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Great idea.

Let’s drive the economy there further into the ground and add more fuel to the migrant crisis.
 
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Great idea.

Let’s drive the economy there further into the ground and add more fuel to the migrant crisis.
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Not sure it could be much worse. The quickest way is always through the pocketbook. What would you do to apply pressure?
 
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Not sure it could be much worse. The quickest way is always through the pocketbook. What would you do to apply pressure?
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Pressure to do what?

Sanctions haven’t really moved the needle on Cuba, Iran, Venezuela or Russia.

The US seems to be perfectly fine cozying up to Dictators.

So, I would approach Maduro and open a direct dialogue to find out what he wants in an attempt to enter into negotiations with a large investment and aid package on the table.

Sticks don’t seem to work. Might as well try some carrots.
 
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