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The fact that you can't even remotely admit that Biden is a bad President and a bad candidate is mind-boggling.

I've spent more time criticizing Trump than Biden and I'm a Republican.

You live in a dream world totally absent from reality.
Pretty sure Toronto is one of the girls that used to play with Biden leg hair in the pool.
 

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The fact that you can't even remotely admit that Biden is a bad President and a bad candidate is mind-boggling.

I've spent more time criticizing Trump than Biden and I'm a Republican.

You live in a dream world totally absent from reality.
Why would I provide criticism of him as a progressive when we have people pushing replacement theory points here? Makes a ton of sense to hold me to a higher standard than those you like. I said I wished that the republican wet dreams were true but that isn't enough to say I think he's a bad candidate. Letting your blind hate for me cloud what I actually wrote is a dream world totally absent from reality.

Pretty sure Toronto is one of the girls that used to play with Biden leg hair in the pool.
Weird fantasy to have. Bertha's leg hairs ain't doing it for you anymore? Shooting out a couple kids and adding a couple lb's not hitting the spot for you?
 

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Even most progressives would admit (if they were truly honest) that Biden isn't a good candidate and they would much rather have someone else. Come on Toronto, I promise it won't hurt. It's easy. Everybody's doing it. Say it with me .... Biden is not a good candidate.

See, don't you feel better now?
 

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Both sides are really bad, but I will focus any and all criticism on the guy I don't like. I am a grown person wondering why more people can't see a president who's trying to cancel student debt is just the same as a convicted rapist. Why can't the adults in the room see these obvious equal things!

Have you no intellectual pride at all?

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I need to apologize to Toronto. I assumed that his mocking post was dripping with sarcasm

"Lmao I truly wished that the conservative wet dreams would come true and the Biden crime family would go away. Instead we get to see "Conservative but with a gay flag" round two."

I guess he was being serious. It would've been easier to tell if he wouldn't have thrown in the "conservative wet dream" part as well as the "Biden crime family" reference.
 
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Have you no intellectual pride at all?
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None of my posts recently have been anything serious. There's no point in engaging with someone who seriously considers Biden and Trump to be equally bad.

I need to apologize to Toronto. I assumed that his mocking post was dripping with sarcasm



I guess he was being serious. It would've been easier to tell if he wouldn't have thrown in the "conservative wet dream" part as well as the "Biden crime family" reference.
We can go back in time to look at my posts regarding how I hate Kamala as a VP choice, and how Crime Bill Joe would be like my 8th pick. But, because I don't jump in the trenches to discuss how horrible Biden is that means I don't think he's a bad candidate.

I will always appreciate your ability to zero in on my posts to dissect them. Would love to see someone else get the same treatment. It would be incredible to see someone try and extract any sort of unique thought from the posters who say "well both are bad, so.....I think the rapist guy is the better choice because well, you know them being equal I'll pick the rape guy!".
 

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I will always appreciate your ability to zero in on my posts to dissect them. Would love to see someone else get the same treatment. It would be incredible to see someone try and extract any sort of unique thought from the posters who say "well both are bad, so.....I think the rapist guy is the better choice because well, you know them being equal I'll pick the rape guy!".
Ahhh the martyr complex strikes again. You really are a piece of work. I went back and looked at the last time I "dissected" one of your posts.

Almost 5 stinking months. You obviously can't handle it when I engage with you. I will make a note to stretch it out to 8 months too help you overcome the mental scars that I've caused you.
 

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Ahhh the martyr complex strikes again. You really are a piece of work. I went back and looked at the last time I "dissected" one of your posts.

Almost 5 stinking months. You obviously can't handle it when I engage with you. I will make a note to stretch it out to 8 months too help you overcome the mental scars that I've caused you.

I can't handle it? Brother, you jumped on my post at me not wanting to criticize Biden and then self corrected. Just breathe.

The one thing I can't handle is how seriously you take yourself. It's incredible. This is literally a glorified shitpost thread. Nobody is willing to provide any sort of support for their positions other than "well muh feelingz". So forgive me if I post a shitpost and it's not up to your editorial standards of how critical I'm supposed to be of the guy on the opposite team to you.

I'll leave this with one final thought so that you can ensure I am not a Joe Biden sympathizer - The sooner he passes on the better. I can't fucking stand him and hope that there is some sort of crime that gets uncovered.
 

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I'll leave this with one final thought so that you can ensure I am not a Joe Biden sympathizer - The sooner he passes on the better. I can't fucking stand him and hope that there is some sort of crime that gets uncovered.
To be fair this is the nicest thing you have ever said about anything or anyone on IE.
 

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None of my posts recently have been anything serious. There's no point in engaging with someone who seriously considers Biden and Trump to be equally bad.


We can go back in time to look at my posts regarding how I hate Kamala as a VP choice, and how Crime Bill Joe would be like my 8th pick. But, because I don't jump in the trenches to discuss how horrible Biden is that means I don't think he's a bad candidate.

I will always appreciate your ability to zero in on my posts to dissect them. Would love to see someone else get the same treatment. It would be incredible to see someone try and extract any sort of unique thought from the posters who say "well both are bad, so.....I think the rapist guy is the better choice because well, you know them being equal I'll pick the rape guy!".
Here's the problem. When Trump was in office, he got his share of criticism and you were more than happy to participate. Biden is the POTUS now, not Trump, yet you're criticism of Biden is like playing where's Waldo?

Whether Trump is a rapists or a groper is kind of fuzzy. A jury of his peers did not find him guilty of rape, but the judge stepped in and said he was.
 

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Ahhh the martyr complex strikes again. You really are a piece of work. I went back and looked at the last time I "dissected" one of your posts.

Almost 5 stinking months. You obviously can't handle it when I engage with you. I will make a note to stretch it out to 8 months too help you overcome the mental scars that I've caused you.
Imagine the mental scars if Trump beats Biden in November...
 

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Here's the problem. When Trump was in office, he got his share of criticism and you were more than happy to participate. Biden is the POTUS now, not Trump, yet you're criticism of Biden is like playing where's Waldo?

Whether Trump is a rapists or a groper is kind of fuzzy. A jury of his peers did not find him guilty of rape, but the judge stepped in and said he was.
My differences with Biden policy-wise are because he's not doing enough and he's just adopting Republican positions. So, all my great criticisms that you've come to love you'd hate them even more.

You will never find my criticisms of Biden sufficient because our basis of evaluation is completely different.

I'm down to discuss actual figures and results, but if you want to discuss qualitative policies then you won't like my opinions.

The jury found him guilty of sexual assault. Logical path to rape.
 

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The jury found him guilty of sexual assault. Logical path to rape.
Civil trial, there is no innocent or guilty in a civil trial. They found him liable for damages. That’s like saying Brian Kelly is guilty and has been found guilty of murder of Declan Sullivan because of what took place on the civil side. You have to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal trial. In a civil case you can be held liable, and the standard is much much lower to find someone liable for damages.
 

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Civil trial, there is no innocent or guilty in a civil trial. They found him liable for damages. That’s like saying Brian Kelly is guilty and has been found guilty of murder of Declan Sullivan because of what took place on the civil side. You have to be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal trial. In a civil case you can be held liable, and the standard is much much lower to find someone liable for damages.
Was there a separate case against Brian Kelly? Because from what I remember it was against the University not Kelly.

Trump was found by a jury that he sexually assaulted her in civil court. This is a fact.
 

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Was there a separate case against Brian Kelly? Because from what I remember it was against the University not Kelly.

Trump was found by a jury that he sexually assaulted her in civil court. This is a fact.
Not really. In a criminal case, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of which he's been accused. By contrast, a civil plaintiff must merely show that it is more likely than not that the accusations behind the claim are true. This is called the “preponderance of evidence” standard. So the jury is basically saying that yeah maybe basically. The jury checked “no” on rape. And checked “yes” on sexual assault.

So the University was guilty of murder then by your standard, not BK.
 
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My differences with Biden policy-wise are because he's not doing enough and he's just adopting Republican positions. So, all my great criticisms that you've come to love you'd hate them even more.

You will never find my criticisms of Biden sufficient because our basis of evaluation is completely different.

I'm down to discuss actual figures and results, but if you want to discuss qualitative policies then you won't like my opinions.

The jury found him guilty of sexual assault. Logical path to rape.
I have no problem with your criticisms of Biden, but it's like a scavenger hunt to find them.

You can touch a woman's ass or hug her and get arrested for sexual assault. Saying it's a logical path to rape is a stretch. I have no idea if the sexual assault was rape, but it doesn't appear the jury thought it was.
 

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Not really. In a criminal case, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant committed the crime of which he's been accused. By contrast, a civil plaintiff must merely show that it is more likely than not that the accusations behind the claim are true. This is called the “preponderance of evidence” standard. So the jury is basically saying that yeah maybe basically. The jury checked “no” on rape. And checked “yes” on sexual assault.

So the University was guilty of murder then by your standard, not BK.

Those facts don't jive with what the left wing propaganda machine has been saying. Clearly you're wrong. Trump told everyone to drink bleach too.
 

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I have no problem with your criticisms of Biden, but it's like a scavenger hunt to find them.

You can touch a woman's ass or hug her and get arrested for sexual assault. Saying it's a logical path to rape is a stretch. I have no idea if the sexual assault was rape, but it doesn't appear the jury thought it was.
Yeah except he shoved his fingers into her. By New York law it needs to involve your dick for it to be rape. But in my opinion that's rape.

Would you say shoving your fingers into a woman is rape?

Maybe a snowflake thing of me to assume that shoving fingers into a woman who didn't want that is just sexual assault! I guess rape is just sounds better and makes it ok! lol my goodness.

I can't believe we've reached this point. Oh well!
 

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Yeah except he shoved his fingers into her. By New York law it needs to involve your dick for it to be rape. But in my opinion that's rape.
allegedly… he was liable based on “he said she said” and a bad reputation.
 

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Yeah except he shoved his fingers into her. By New York law it needs to involve your dick for it to be rape. But in my opinion that's rape.

Would you say shoving your fingers into a woman is rape?

Maybe a snowflake thing of me to assume that shoving fingers into a woman who didn't want that is just sexual assault! I guess rape is just sounds better and makes it ok! lol my goodness.

I can't believe we've reached this point. Oh well!
Mind you, I'm not standing up for the guy, but IMO for it to be rape it would have to involve the guys dick, which is what the jury thought.
 

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allegedly… he was liable based on “he said she said” and a bad reputation.

Does a court matter or nah? Take this line of thinking to those you hate that don't have any convictions.....

Mind you, I'm not standing up for the guy, but IMO for it to be rape it would have to involve the guys dick, which is what the jury thought.

In NY law it is not rape. I apologize for using my own interpretation of what rape is to me. I'll refer to him as a convicted sexual assault-er who fisted a woman against her will.

I hope that is an agreeable term for everyone and is accordance with NY state law as we strive to ensure all our comments are within the correct legal terms.
 

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Does a court matter or nah? Take this line of thinking to those you hate that don't have any convictions.....
Again it’s a civil case. It’s fun to point at and make your point but in reality he’s guilty of nothing. Women says he fingered me, guy says he didn’t…. jury finds that the evidence or in this case their testimonies the woman was more believable. This would have been a resounding not guilty by a mile in a criminal trial. Stop pretending to be smart.
 

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For example… OJ Simpson found not guilty of murder. Then in a civil trial found liable for the wrongful death of his wife and lover. This happens a lot… although OJ probably did it. lol. But if you have any experience with civil matters it happens all the time. Criminal trial you have to be 100% guilty. Civil is like 50.1% “guilty”.
 

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Does a court matter or nah? Take this line of thinking to those you hate that don't have any convictions.....



In NY law it is not rape. I apologize for using my own interpretation of what rape is to me. I'll refer to him as a convicted sexual assault-er who fisted a woman against her will.

I hope that is an agreeable term for everyone and is accordance with NY state law as we strive to ensure all our comments are within the correct legal terms.
There’s a reason laws are specific and not left to one’s own interpretation.
 

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There’s a reason laws are specific and not left to one’s own interpretation.

Ok - so he’s a convicted sexual assault’er who shoved his fingers into a woman who didn’t want it. That is what the court decided. Do you agree?

Also, just to be clear when going forward are we going to be holding everyone to the same standard of ensuring compliance with correctly calling things by their legal definitions? Just want to check.
 

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Ok - so he’s a convicted sexual assault’er who shoved his fingers into a woman who didn’t want it. That is what the court decided. Do you agree?

Also, just to be clear when going forward are we going to be holding everyone to the same standard of ensuring compliance with correctly calling things by their legal definitions? Just want to check.
Jury decided. It wasn’t a bench trial. Jesus, my 13 y/o daughter taking civics and debate can follow along and discern this, why can’t you?
 

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Ok - so he’s a convicted sexual assault’er who shoved his fingers into a woman who didn’t want it. That is what the court decided. Do you agree?

Also, just to be clear when going forward are we going to be holding everyone to the same standard of ensuring compliance with correctly calling things by their legal definitions? Just want to check.
The law is the law and pretty specific and no one is arguing that he's innocent.

Officer: Do you know why I pulled you over?
Irish#1: No sir.
Officer: You were going 70mph in a 55mph zone.
Irish#1: Well officer, with all due respect, my interpretation of the law is that it's just a suggested speed limit.
Officer: I totally understand. Here's your ticket.
 
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