'25 GA WR Jerome Bettis Jr. (Notre Dame Signee)

[IrishLax]

In this day and age you you lose basically nothing by throwing a bone to Bettis’ kid

 

[INLaw]

But you do lose time and brain cells for allowing one blocked jag to return wearing two socks.

 

[stlnd01]

I don’t think Bettis is great but this just is simply incorrect. Bettis is a P5 WR. Probably not playoff caliber but his pedigree makes it worth to take a flyer on (and you don’t have to agree, but this is what they are doing). Bettis has other P5 offers so it’s not like ND is alone on an island. Nate Montana didn’t have a single FBS offer out of high school. The two aren’t really comparable. If they were just trying to appease former ND legends, both the Pritchett kids would be at ND.

He’s also not a quarterback. Bettis doesn’t need to be the most important guy on the field. At worst, he can be a depth WR, or flip to DB, or be a special teams guy. There’s lots of ways he can contribute.

 

[INLaw]

But you do lose time and brain cells for allowing one blocked jag to return wearing two socks.

To be clear im not saying reblock i just prefer my bullshit in mono like AM radio I dont need it in stereo.

 

[DomerInHappyValley]

I assume he's a kid that grew up loving ND.
He also plays a position of need. If he's only ever the number 4 receiver that's still a win.

Only problem I could see is the blue hairs talking shit because he's not his dad.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I assume he's a kid that grew up loving ND.
He also plays a position of need. If he's only ever the number 4 receiver that's still a win.

Only problem I could see is the blue hairs talking shit because he's not his dad.

if he’s every our #4 wr, our first 3 better be first rounders

We’re trying to work our way out of a wr hole, going backwards isn’t how you do that

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I still think a lot of you are putting too much time into picturing what he and the wr may look like a few years from now. That's a fools errand these days. No one knows so screw it and take 5 this class for now

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Take him and call him The Cab.

Lyft

 

[PutuporShutup]

I still think a lot of you are putting too much time into picturing what he and the wr may look like a few years from now. That's a fools errand these days. No one knows so screw it and take 5 this class for now

Prefer we don't offer a scholarship to someone that doesn't warrant one, especially when their family has a $25M+ net worth. I'd rather us offer more big boddies on the Dline or Oline where we can stack up talent, or need to at least. We haven't taken enough commits in the middle of our dline due to numbers, and we even processed a solid/good commit out due to numbers, yet here we are possibly taking a WR that should never see the field at WR in meaningful minutes (if we want to be a championship caliber team).

 

[IA4irish]

Prefer we don't offer a scholarship to someone that doesn't warrant one, especially when their family has a $25M+ net worth. I'd rather us offer more big boddies on the Dline or Oline where we can stack up talent, or need to at least. We haven't taken enough commits in the middle of our dline due to numbers, and we even processed a solid/good commit out due to numbers, yet here we are possibly taking a WR that should never see the field at WR in meaningful minutes (if we want to be a championship caliber team).

Get some help, dude

 

[Hautian Domer]

The staff judge his abilities as worthy of a scholarship. His offer list looks pretty good to me, but if there are serious doubts and he’s got the grades and scores to clear admissions, I don’t see why they couldn’t pursue an academic scholarship and let him be a preferred walk on. He’s still on the team, dresses, and maybe plays some, but you don’t burn your athletic scholarship.

 

[a mike]

yet here we are possibly taking a WR that should never see the field at WR in meaningful minutes (if we want to be a championship caliber team).

First, I will say that this whole thing got kicked off because someone bumped/quoted something you posted several months ago in an antagonistic/unproductive way so you were a bit pulled back into the fray here

However, you continually get into unproductive pissing matches with posters because you for some reason cannot accept--or maybe you don't understand--the filter by which every other poster on this board (besides Lberry) discusses recruits/prospects/players

We aren't all idiots except you

We are all generally aware of the caliber of recruit its going to take for ND to win a natty

Drumming on and on in some derivative flavor about how Player X isn't "championship caliber" in every recruit's thread is very repetitive and unproductive

In this particular instance-- if you'd stop emoting long enough to read posters responses you would see they're all in agreement with you that JBJ isn't the second coming of Randy Moss

However, they have the emotional maturity to accept the situation which is--yes, JBJ isn't an elite prospect but yes, he's getting preferential interest because his dad is a ND legend. Thats kinda how the world works

I also think the fact that he's the son of a legend is skewing your view and opinion of this entire recruitment

JBJ certainly isn't the biggest reach the staff has made in recent years if you're going off recruiting cohort, etc

Furthermore, if you haven't noticed, ND hasn't exactly been killing it in WR recruiting over the past few cycles and its pretty conceivable to me that this is the caliber or type of 4/5th receiver ND could hope to get in one of their classes. Again, obviously, not a "championship caliber" board--but we need to discuss in terms of reality around here not just sit around and constantly emote

I personally agree and am not a fan of JBJ but it also seems to me the staff is likely slow playing him to a certain extent or he'd likely already be in the class

With that said, I'm guessing he will eventually be added to the class which goes to my point above that beggars can't be choosers and rn ND is more of a beggar than a choser when it comes to WR recruiting. Maybe Brown can eventually change that or maybe its a bigger discussion with how MF is doing or how NIL is affecting WR recruiting

For the time being at this point I think we can all be in agreement about the situation with JBJ

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Maybe JBJ helps keep Deuce in the class.

Something to consider, but I don't know how tight they are exactly.

Deuce went out of his way to troll Wisconsin Twitter re: Strebig. We'll see. Long way to go.

 

[PutuporShutup]

First, I will say that this whole thing got kicked off because someone bumped/quoted something you posted several months ago in an antagonistic/unproductive way so you were a bit pulled back into the fray here

However, you continually get into unproductive pissing matches with posters because you for some reason cannot accept--or maybe you don't understand--the filter by which every other poster on this board (besides Lberry) discusses recruits/prospects/players

We aren't all idiots except you

We are all generally aware of the caliber of recruit its going to take for ND to win a natty

Drumming on and on in some derivative flavor about how Player X isn't "championship caliber" in every recruit's thread is very repetitive and unproductive

In this particular instance-- if you'd stop emoting long enough to read posters responses you would see they're all in agreement with you that JBJ isn't the second coming of Randy Moss

However, they have the emotional maturity to accept the situation which is--yes, JBJ isn't an elite prospect but yes, he's getting preferential interest because his dad is a ND legend. Thats kinda how the world works

I also think the fact that he's the son of a legend is skewing your view and opinion of this entire recruitment

JBJ certainly isn't the biggest reach the staff has made in recent years if you're going off recruiting cohort, etc

Furthermore, if you haven't noticed, ND hasn't exactly been killing it in WR recruiting over the past few cycles and its pretty conceivable to me that this is the caliber or type of 4/5th receiver ND could hope to get in one of their classes. Again, obviously, not a "championship caliber" board--but we need to discuss in terms of reality around here not just sit around and constantly emote

I personally agree and am not a fan of JBJ but it also seems to me the staff is likely slow playing him to a certain extent or he'd likely already be in the class

With that said, I'm guessing he will eventually be added to the class which goes to my point above that beggars can't be choosers and rn ND is more of a beggar than a choser when it comes to WR recruiting. Maybe Brown can eventually change that or maybe its a bigger discussion with how MF is doing or how NIL is affecting WR recruiting

For the time being at this point I think we can all be in agreement about the situation with JBJ

Burress despite low ranking shows ability on film, meadows high potential. Two players that despite not much results or numbers you see the why. Don’t see even close to that with bettis. I’m in the boat of if they aren’t good enough don’t accept commitment just for numbers purposes. That almost never works out. If he really wanted to be at nd he wouldn’t need a scholly due to their financial situation. I also get the pride and not needing dad’s help.

There’s a large group that don’t like to read anything negative about an nd coach, player, commit, or likely commit. I’m not in that group, I prefer fair balanced discussion. But the negative gets blown up here a lot instead of positive comments, those are just passed over with a like or two.

I’d much rather be talking about the types of wrs we’re trying to get and offense we’ll run. I think we need more speed but we really aren’t recruiting those types as heavily. Maybe it’s because they don’t want to come like you allude to as a possibility.

 

[mrmcgrail]

I think it's more of beating a dead horse. The staff gave him an offer and seem willing to take his commitment and yes he's not elite but they decided to offer. They even haven't pulled the offer with a new wr coach in the fold so yes I'm sure it's preferential treatment with who he is but I'm not going to just keep going on and on about it.

 

[irish4ever]

Take him and call him The Cab.

No, Mini-Bus

 

[Luckylucci]

I think it's more of beating a dead horse. The staff gave him an offer and seem willing to take his commitment and yes he's not elite but they decided to offer. They even haven't pulled the offer with a new wr coach in the fold so yes I'm sure it's preferential treatment with who he is but I'm not going to just keep going on and on about it.

Seriously, this is getting way too much attention. If the addition of Bettis makes or breaks the WR class then we have bigger problems. You are adding 1 WR to a class of 4 or 5. And, 1 WR to a depth chart of 10+. This is not some watershed moment. Good grief.

 

[Lberry]

Seriously, this is getting way too much attention. If the addition of Bettis makes or breaks the WR class then we have bigger problems. You are adding 1 WR to a class of 4 or 5. And, 1 WR to a depth chart of 10+. This is not some watershed moment. Good grief.

Actually agree. At minimum he sticks it out, at best he's a #2 or #3 and we'll fight to be at 85 each year. You need some depth fillers and Jerome is vocally pro-ND still (not all are).

Just take him and work the rest of the board (I also think Burress is a stud pick up).

 

[PutuporShutup]

Actually agree. At minimum he sticks it out, at best he's a #2 or #3 and we'll fight to be at 85 each year. You need some depth fillers and Jerome is vocally pro-ND still (not all are).

Just take him and work the rest of the board (I also think Burress is a stud pick up).

I just see a WR that at best with development would be #2 or #3 at rutgers, not championship competing ND. If he loves ND so much he shouldn't need a scholly, if he wants a place to have a good shot at growing while playing, it shouldn't be at ND. I just can't comprehend a big time program offering a scholarship to a player (even with their last name) they don't think can/should grow into a potential starter or contributing depth player. With zero intention to process them out if they don't pan out. If they see starter or contributing player in Bettis, then that's even more worrisome.

I'll let it go until he at least commits.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I just see a WR that at best with development would be #2 or #3 at rutgers, not championship competing ND. If he loves ND so much he shouldn't need a scholly, if he wants a place to have a good shot at growing while playing, it shouldn't be at ND. I just can't comprehend a big time program offering a scholarship to a player (even with their last name) they don't think can/should grow into a potential starter or contributing depth player. With zero intention to process them out if they don't pan out. If they see starter or contributing player in Bettis, then that's even more worrisome.

I'll let it go until he at least commits.

You are insufferable. You’ve made your point clear that you don’t think he should be on scholly. You don’t need to beat this dead horse over and over and over again. And you don’t need to begin beating it again when/if he commits. FFS move on, don’t Put up just Shut up.

 

[Lberry]

I just see a WR that at best with development would be #2 or #3 at rutgers, not championship competing ND. If he loves ND so much he shouldn't need a scholly, if he wants a place to have a good shot at growing while playing, it shouldn't be at ND. I just can't comprehend a big time program offering a scholarship to a player (even with their last name) they don't think can/should grow into a potential starter or contributing depth player. With zero intention to process them out if they don't pan out. If they see starter or contributing player in Bettis, then that's even more worrisome.

I'll let it go until he at least commits.

Look it's not lost on me that all of his highlights are jump balls because he doesn't separate from anyone, but transfer portal + Meadows and Burress being hits (IMO) + Jerome being an active advocacy for ND, I say take him and avoid the black eye of turning him down.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Look it's not lost on me that all of his highlights are jump balls because he doesn't separate from anyone, but transfer portal + Meadows and Burress being hits (IMO) + Jerome being an active advocacy for ND, I say take him and avoid the black eye of turning him down.

Yeah, it's just not a good precedent. Jerome isn't like every Alum, i get that and I have no problem with him being on the team, but we're not lighting the world on fire with 2025 WR recruiting, so maybe it's telling of a bigger issue that someone else mentioned, was my point.

I actually have a ton of trust Freeman will put a really good roster and coaching staff together each year.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Yeah, it's just not a good precedent. Jerome isn't like every Alum, i get that and I have no problem with him being on the team, but we're not lighting the world on fire with 2025 WR recruiting, so maybe it's telling of a bigger issue that someone else mentioned, was my point.

I actually have a ton of trust Freeman will put a really good roster and coaching staff together each year.

At 1:36 you said you’d let it go until he commits and yet here we are 2+ hours later. Infuckingsufferable.

 

[PutuporShutup]

At 1:36 you said you’d let it go until he commits and yet here we are 2+ hours later. Infuckingsufferable.

Adults conversing here … move along

 

[INLaw]

First, I will say that this whole thing got kicked off because someone bumped/quoted something you posted several months ago in an antagonistic/unproductive way so you were a bit pulled back into the fray here

However, you continually get into unproductive pissing matches with posters because you for some reason cannot accept--or maybe you don't understand--the filter by which every other poster on this board (besides Lberry) discusses recruits/prospects/players

We aren't all idiots except you

We are all generally aware of the caliber of recruit its going to take for ND to win a natty

Drumming on and on in some derivative flavor about how Player X isn't "championship caliber" in every recruit's thread is very repetitive and unproductive

In this particular instance-- if you'd stop emoting long enough to read posters responses you would see they're all in agreement with you that JBJ isn't the second coming of Randy Moss

However, they have the emotional maturity to accept the situation which is--yes, JBJ isn't an elite prospect but yes, he's getting preferential interest because his dad is a ND legend. Thats kinda how the world works

I also think the fact that he's the son of a legend is skewing your view and opinion of this entire recruitment

JBJ certainly isn't the biggest reach the staff has made in recent years if you're going off recruiting cohort, etc

Furthermore, if you haven't noticed, ND hasn't exactly been killing it in WR recruiting over the past few cycles and its pretty conceivable to me that this is the caliber or type of 4/5th receiver ND could hope to get in one of their classes. Again, obviously, not a "championship caliber" board--but we need to discuss in terms of reality around here not just sit around and constantly emote

I personally agree and am not a fan of JBJ but it also seems to me the staff is likely slow playing him to a certain extent or he'd likely already be in the class

With that said, I'm guessing he will eventually be added to the class which goes to my point above that beggars can't be choosers and rn ND is more of a beggar than a choser when it comes to WR recruiting. Maybe Brown can eventually change that or maybe its a bigger discussion with how MF is doing or how NIL is affecting WR recruiting

For the time being at this point I think we can all be in agreement about the situation with JBJ

Brother you are arguing logic to the mother freaking OG gangster of IE board trolls. 🧌 bless your heart and good luck

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I just see a WR that at best with development would be #2 or #3 at rutgers, not championship competing ND. If he loves ND so much he shouldn't need a scholly, if he wants a place to have a good shot at growing while playing, it shouldn't be at ND. I just can't comprehend a big time program offering a scholarship to a player (even with their last name) they don't think can/should grow into a potential starter or contributing depth player. With zero intention to process them out if they don't pan out. If they see starter or contributing player in Bettis, then that's even more worrisome.

I'll let it go until he at least commits.

I bet you were a real treat during the Willingham and Weis years

 

[PutuporShutup]

I bet you were a real treat during the Willingham and Weis years

I got blasted big time for saying similar stuff regarding Robby Paris and John Ryan, wasn’t on message boards before the 2006 season

 

[a mike]

There’s a large group that don’t like to read anything negative about an nd coach, player, commit, or likely commit. I’m not in that group, I prefer fair balanced discussion. But the negative gets blown up here a lot instead of positive comments, those are just passed over with a like or two.

Yes that's just going to be human nature.

If you don't want so much blow back consider using qualifying phrases like--I think or it might

Then provide an explanation or basis for your reasoning--because...explanation

Now let's put it all together

{I think} {it might} not be a good idea to have JBJ as a take in this class {because} he doesn't seem to possess the required physical traits {I think} {it might} take to play at this level

Then you could further expound upon what specific shortcomings you feel are missing from his game

All of this will be much more palatable for absorption to people that have a predisposition to be found of all things ND to the extent they spend a decent amount of time discussing it with strangers on the internet

I'm guessing you wouldn't have the expectation that if you just walk up to a complete stranger and started telling him his wife is ugly or his kid sucked at sports that it would go over very well for you

What you're doing on here is in a similar vibe although obviously to much lower volume

You can certainly continue to browbeat players and subjects to death in a negative manner but just don't be surprised if that's what stands out to other posters when they think about your content

You're wishing for a world that doesn't exist and you have an expectation that people should act in a certain way--thats only going to lead to continued frustration for not only you but all the other posters on this board

Again for the record I don't disagree with your premise. I too question the offer and would also think the coaching staff would be looking to place more of an emphasis on players with pure speed/upside in this class. I can only presume unfortunately that they're not too optimistic about their chances currently with some of their other top prospects perhaps. But I'm optimistic that they're slow playing him a bit until they've exhausted all their other realistic options

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I got blasted big time for saying similar stuff regarding Robby Paris and John Ryan, wasn’t on message boards before the 2006 season

Bettis aside, your posts would lead one to believe ND just came off the 3-9 season from 2007. Lighten up francis.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I bet you were a real treat during the Willingham and Weis years

Weren't we all?