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Irish#1

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Maybe Israel should find the tunnel entrances/exits, fill them with concrete and let Hamas starve to death.
 

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Maybe Israel should find the tunnel entrances/exits, fill them with concrete and let Hamas starve to death.
I think they are going easier in case the hostages are alive. Hostages are a good strategy. You could pump seawater down there too.
 

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Maybe Israel should find the tunnel entrances/exits, fill them with concrete and let Hamas starve to death.
I'd be 100% for this, only problem is the hostages are probably down there too. That's probably what's stopping Israel from doing it.
 

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Ulukinatme posted this in the racism thread. Thought it should be in here as well.



It's pretty spot on. Everyone needs to watch this before spouting brilliant things like:

Free Palestine!
Join BDS movement!
No Apartheid!
No genocide!
Ceasefire now!

These people have no idea what they're talking
about.
 

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If anyone is interested in a serious analysis of the State of Israel by a Jewish historian they may want to check out What is Modern Israel by Yakov Rabkin.
 

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It's pretty spot on. Everyone needs to watch this before spouting brilliant things like:

Free Palestine!
Join BDS movement!
No Apartheid!
No genocide!
Ceasefire now!

These people have no idea what they're talking
about.
Neither do most people posting in this thread. Just sayin.
 

TorontoGold

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Neither do most people posting in this thread. Just sayin.
They literally have no clue, always propping up Sea Turtle who's the worst kind of antisemite. They haven't called out any of his hateful takes out of cowardice, whether it's like this post where he goes on to describe how Jewish women who got made into sex dolls must have been the pretty ones. Literally pitting minority groups against each other.
And here we go. Over policing. Yeah, that's why blacks never got off the mat.
I grant you there were laws in the SOUTH that were anti black. Frankly, the south has always been anti anything but white protestants. Especially to blacks. But they could have flourished in the north and every one that stayed in the south did so because they chose to. Freaking persevere like the immigrants who came here starving. And STILL are. 6 months later they are putting roofs on homes and over their own.

All you did with your thoughts on the Jewish community was confirm my stance. You didnt 'i know the real jewish story' with me. I worked for them for years. You think i dont know about Jewish trips to Israel and Aliyah? They STILL have to be wary of becoming the scapegoat but they aren't fucking murduring each other over sneakers. They arent committing 50% of the nations crime. And jewish men want responsibility. They want to be men.

The jews had nothing when they came here and Israel after ww2. Nothing. Everything was taken from them. The wealth that they tried to pass down to their kids were literally ripped out of their stomachs(diamonds). The gold fillings were pulled from their mouths and you're talking about generational wealth? Their shoes were taken to make leather. Their women were raped and made to be sex toys(the pretty ones)
They started from scratch when they came to the US and worked up. They didn't call each other sellouts, uncle Tom's and trying to be white when they started to excel. No one would sell to them or buy from them. They were outcasts and called the K word, devils, Jesus killers, Jew boys. Jews were persecuted more in the north after the Civil war than blacks were.

Once they got to Israel a bunch of Jewish farmers had to pick up rifles and fight off 5 nations coming to crush them. A freaking miracle. It took about 20 years for them to get strong. Now, less than a century later, they are so strong that they are accused of being an apartheid state.

Propping up Israel as the monolith of Judaism and assuming all of Judaism agrees with it. To use the ancestral pain they've experienced to push his hateful views is well on display. Maybe he should tell everyone what Israel did to the Ethiopian jews when they came, wouldn't want to leave out that little tidbit on how Israel didn't want to the sully their gene pool with them. After this they'll go back to their regular scheduled programming of hating George Soros for being that rich puppet master, or consuming Rebel News media, apologizing for Proud Boys, or whatever else that is part of the typical playbook.

I have no doubt in my mind that many here would be radicalized if they were dropped into Baghdad in another timeline. Picking and choosing the most militant ideals of their religion is no different than what happens in the middle east. They won't admit to it, but the infatuation with Israel is how they've successfully carried out an enthostate and the modern Republican view is to create a Christian entho state.
 

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They won't admit to it, but the infatuation with Israel is how they've successfully carried out an enthostate and the modern Republican view is to create a Christian entho state.

It's good to know you think so highly of us. I expected no less. You're also completely off base, really shitty take.
 

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It's good to know you think so highly of us. I expected no less. You're also completely off base, really shitty take.
How?

For example many here have articulated that they follow strict adherence to the belief that being gay is a sin. That is a very hardline belief. People regularly opine that "society is failing because of lack of religion", we know that doesn't mean Islam should be spread.

Not even close to being off base. It's not me saying these things, it's Republicans.

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You can down vote me all you want, but it doesn't change the fact you or anyone else will call out Sea Turtles hate speech.
 

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Iran's proxies are attacking US targets frequently.



We've also blown up some of their bases in Syria. This is a long game to constrain them and keep them from escalating against Israel.

If Iran really wanted to they could send oil prices close to 200 a barrel and spark a massive regional war. But we have leverage so they haven't done so.
 

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No bizarre obsessions with other posters, weird fixations on jewish sex dolls or wild geopolitical antisemitism conspiracy theories.

Just a really good interview with the son of a Hamas leader.

 

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How?

For example many here have articulated that they follow strict adherence to the belief that being gay is a sin. That is a very hardline belief. People regularly opine that "society is failing because of lack of religion", we know that doesn't mean Islam should be spread.

Not even close to being off base. It's not me saying these things, it's Republicans.

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You can down vote me all you want, but it doesn't change the fact you or anyone else will call out Sea Turtles hate speech.

Saying that the founders intended for the country to be a Christian state or believing that the main religion of a country should be Christian is pretty different from saying anybody here wants an "ethnostate" where only other Christians would be allowed. Quite the jump! So how would we do such a cleansing, gas chambers I expect? Where were you going with this? Americans currently live in a predominantly Christian country, but we're accepting of others of other cultures provided they follow the rule of law. This is a true melting pot, built by immigrants of many cultures and it'll always be that way.
 

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We've also blown up some of their bases in Syria. This is a long game to constrain them and keep them from escalating against Israel.

If Iran really wanted to they could send oil prices close to 200 a barrel and spark a massive regional war. But we have leverage so they haven't done so.
Iran's oil production hasincreased under Biden. You can see where the sanctions came in and where they eased. The attacks haven't stopped. The lack of deterrence is part of the problem, IMO. The Iran wing of the Middle East is very willing to go to an embargo (which would be ironic given the similarities between Carter and Biden) but the Saudi/UAE/Bahrain wing is holding firm against it.

Either way, more access to money for Iran is not a good thing for anyone in Israel or the US.

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Iran's oil production hasincreased under Biden. You can see where the sanctions came in and where they eased. The attacks haven't stopped. The lack of deterrence is part of the problem, IMO. The Iran wing of the Middle East is very willing to go to an embargo (which would be ironic given the similarities between Carter and Biden) but the Saudi/UAE/Bahrain wing is holding firm against it.

Either way, more access to money for Iran is not a good thing for anyone in Israel or the US.

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Do you notice what the second big fall in oil output corresponds with? It's COVID. It started going up when worldwide oil demand went up and they're approaching pre Covid Trump levels.
 
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