Marcus Freeman named Dick Corbett Head Football Coach

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Shaun Davis just said Greathouse’s issue isn’t physical. Something else going on with him 😒
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He dressed and was a gametime scratch for Duke. Played 17 snaps vs. Louisville. That sure reads like someone who is coming back from an injury. But go on, Shaun.
 

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Are you saying regular season 8-4 is good this year? 8-4 this year is a collapse , and it’s right in front of us
Nope, purely using it as an example of how Freeman teams have responded to adversity.

Was very happy with how we showed up against Duke after a heartbreaker against OSU. Should have been a blow out if the damn offense had a pulse. Felt similarly about Louisville, albeit to a lesser extent.

Just saying, I expect a strong showing on Saturday, and will be surprised if we come out flat.
 

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Nope, purely using it as an example of how Freeman teams have responded to adversity.

Was very happy with how we showed up against Duke after a heartbreaker against OSU. Should have been a blow out if the damn offense had a pulse. Felt similarly about Louisville, albeit to a lesser extent.

Just saying, I expect a strong showing on Saturday, and will be surprised if we come out flat.
Make sure you wear your surprise pants on Saturday
 

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Nope, purely using it as an example of how Freeman teams have responded to adversity.

Was very happy with how we showed up against Duke after a heartbreaker against OSU. Should have been a blow out if the damn offense had a pulse. Felt similarly about Louisville, albeit to a lesser extent.

Just saying, I expect a strong showing on Saturday, and will be surprised if we come out flat.
If we come out flat or play a flat second half like we have last 2 games… heads should roll during bye week
 

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Nope, purely using it as an example of how Freeman teams have responded to adversity.

Was very happy with how we showed up against Duke after a heartbreaker against OSU. Should have been a blow out if the damn offense had a pulse. Felt similarly about Louisville, albeit to a lesser extent.

Just saying, I expect a strong showing on Saturday, and will be surprised if we come out flat.
My issue isn't so much them coming out flat emotionally.

The issue seems to be more so that this team isn't well coached, it's undisciplined and it makes way too many unforced errors.

That, in tandem with them clearly running on fumes playing 7 weeks straight without a bye, and 3, going on 4, consecutive night games against ranked opponents and coming off 2 consecutive road games.

All-around, it just doesn't seem like being flat is the problem. I felt they came out emotionally firing against Ohio State and really Duke too, but they couldn't get out of their own way and that cost them.
 

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Haha. Sorry, I didn’t dare bump the Greathouse thread.
NP, it's just not your post. It's Parker's fault, it's MF's fault, it's Rudolph's fault, it's the O-line's fault, it's Hartman's fault, it's the receivers fault, it's Swarbrick fault. Who did I leave out? lol
 

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NP, it's just not your post. It's Parker's fault, it's MF's fault, it's Rudolph's fault, it's the O-line's fault, it's Hartman's fault, it's the receivers fault, it's Swarbrick fault. Who did I leave out? lol
Well, when you look that bad on offense vs frichan Louisville, in every facet of the offense, everyone is deserving of blame.
 

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This team didn’t collapse after losses to Marshall and Stanford last year, even with Drew Pyne. They fought to 9-4, with a huge home win over Clemson.

Just refuse to believe a team that outplayed OSU is going to collapse.
Agreed. Freeman lost his first three games as HC. He got it turned around then. We can only hope he gets things moving again this season. Beating SC at home and going into a bye week might be just what the doctor ordered.

Honestly, it didn't look like they quit on Saturday night. They were just bad. We've seen ND teams pack it in. At Louisville was not that.
 

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Agreed. Freeman lost his first three games as HC. He got it turned around then. We can only hope he gets things moving again this season. Beating SC at home and going into a bye week might be just what the doctor ordered.

Honestly, it didn't look like they quit on Saturday night. They were just bad. We've seen ND teams pack it in. At Louisville was not that.
Curious, what ND team did you think packed it in that was different than vs louisville.

I don't know of a team that i can remember not trying. But i remember teams not focused, and playing with passion and aggression. I didn't see it most of duke, and almost none vs louisville, especially second half.
 

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Curious, what ND team did you think packed it in that was different than vs louisville.

I don't know of a team that i can remember not trying. But i remember teams not focused, and playing with passion and aggression. I didn't see it most of duke, and almost none vs louisville, especially second half.
They seemed listless which is different than gassed. The play calling complimented it. I am convinced it all goes back to OSU. That was mind-blowingly bad.
 

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Nope, purely using it as an example of how Freeman teams have responded to adversity.

Was very happy with how we showed up against Duke after a heartbreaker against OSU. Should have been a blow out if the damn offense had a pulse. Felt similarly about Louisville, albeit to a lesser extent.

Just saying, I expect a strong showing on Saturday, and will be surprised if we come out flat.
Philly, I love ya but come on my dude. Didn't they already fail the adversity test. Just like last year.

Last year, they had adversity when they lost to OSU. They responded by losing to Marshall. They then responded to that by losing to Stanford.
They had adversity when they lost to OSU, this season, and then crumbled against Louisville.

Yes, the team will eventually respond to adversity by winning a game, hopefully it's by demoralizing USC, because they're better than almost every team on the schedule. However, there should be no more waiting to see how they respond to adversity. They were met with adversity already and failed the next test.
 

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Philly, I love ya but come on my dude. Didn't they already fail the adversity test. Just like last year.

Last year, they had adversity when they lost to OSU. They responded by losing to Marshall. They then responded to that by losing to Stanford.
They had adversity when they lost to OSU, this season, and then crumbled against Louisville.

Yes, the team will eventually respond to adversity by winning a game, hopefully it's by demoralizing USC, because they're better than almost every team on the schedule. However, there should be no more waiting to see how they respond to adversity. They were met with adversity already and failed the next test.
It hurts me to see you be so negative. :(
 

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It hurts me to see you be so negative. :(
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Me too.

Not gonna lie. This season hurts worse than any other in recent memory. This team was setup for a run. College football was setup for this team to make a run.
I agree with you, but that was a month or two ago. Looking at it in the present and with some hindsight, think about all that has changed just in the last few weeks.

There isn't a chance that prior to playing Navy I would have believed they'd play four ranked teams in a row in four straight night games, though. UGA might play three ranked teams all regular season.

To that point and yours, it was 17-13 in the fourth quarter. The facemask penalty on the punt killed everything. Those are the margins you live and die in with college football.
 

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Philly, I love ya but come on my dude. Didn't they already fail the adversity test. Just like last year.

Last year, they had adversity when they lost to OSU. They responded by losing to Marshall. They then responded to that by losing to Stanford.
They had adversity when they lost to OSU, this season, and then crumbled against Louisville.

Yes, the team will eventually respond to adversity by winning a game, hopefully it's by demoralizing USC, because they're better than almost every team on the schedule. However, there should be no more waiting to see how they respond to adversity. They were met with adversity already and failed the next test.
They honestly failed from a quality of play standpoint at duke IMO...... it was a win despite playing crappy, then followed duke up with Louisville.

Just like last year vs Cal, we responded to losing to marshall by crapping bed to a terrible cal team that finished 3-9, losing going into the fourth quarter, but finding a way to win like vs duke.

Last year during the season freeman stated how no excuse to not play well vs marshall or cal due to losing to osu and flight delay getting back so late. But then after the season, he reflected and said, yes it impacted them (made excuses). This season he's saying no excuse not to show up for each game and compete, focus, and have a will win despite 4 tough night games in a row. I guarantee after season he's going to make the excuse that playing 4 tough night games took a tole and impacted the team, and why they didn't play well. It's crap. Almost very SEC east team has a tough run of 3, 4, 5 good SEC opponents in a row. Not saying it's easy, but it's not an excuse. We don't play or have quality depth like freeman and team said/thought we did.

If last year is a repeat we're due to play really good vs USC like we did vs UNC last year.

Play solid but lose at end to OSU both years, then play like absolute crap next 2 games, then fourth game play a lot better.
 

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So I went to dinner with a few buddies tonight. All SEC guys so we obviously talked football. Someone said something tonight that definitely made me pause....it was along the lines of "Sam Hartman isn't good, his best year at WF was 3 losses and every other year he lost 5 games. Sure, he threw for a zillion yards because they were always losing. You guys got caught up in his good looks and the fact he's played for 8 years, but forgot hes a marginal QB from Wake Forrest" Love it or hate it...not much to argue as it was a factual outside take. He threw for 300 yards once this year, I'm not saying bench the guy....but maybe we were a little too optimistic with him.
 

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Me too.

Not gonna lie. This season hurts worse than any other in recent memory. This team was setup for a run. College football was setup for this team to make a run.
It’s sad but I have reached this point too…there’s almost some apathy setting in too. 37 years old and starting to wonder what the point is anymore in following this program?
 

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It’s sad but I have reached this point too…there’s almost some apathy setting in too. 37 years old and starting to wonder what the point is anymore in following this program?
I sometimes feel the same way. Spent a ton of money to go to OSU game...and my USC tickets were on stubhub before the end of the 3rd vs L'ville. And with the extended playoff......no way a program like ND wins 3 huge games in a row....they usually can't win 2 in a season.
 

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Me too.

Not gonna lie. This season hurts worse than any other in recent memory. This team was setup for a run. College football was setup for this team to make a run.
Well that's what we thought when we were beating up on Navy and Tennessee State

The truth is that this team has glaring weaknesses on offense - it's hard to score points when all three interior linemen are below average and you have no WRs who can get open

Hartman is obviously an upgrade compared to last year, but he's short, has an average arm, isn't that mobile, and isn't a quick decision maker. Not a great combination with the weak OL
 

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It’s sad but I have reached this point too…there’s almost some apathy setting in too. 37 years old and starting to wonder what the point is anymore in following this program?
33 years olds. Fell in love in high school after the “bush push”

Some solid highs, but so many lows. You have to wonder. I think we’ve peaked. Admin doesn’t help the cause. Afraid we’ll never get over the hump.

Sucks.

Btw. Buddy of mine knows Rees well. I won’t get into everything, but he saw the writing on the wall last year. Getting a chance to work for Saban is huge, but there’s more to the story here.
 

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33 years olds. Fell in love in high school after the “bush push”

Some solid highs, but so many lows. You have to wonder. I think we’ve peaked. Admin doesn’t help the cause. Afraid we’ll never get over the hump.

Sucks.

Btw. Buddy of mine knows Rees well. I won’t get into everything, but he saw the writing on the wall last year. Getting a chance to work for Saban is huge, but there’s more to the story here.
Keep going.....
 

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At this point, Marcus needs to stop talking about his lack of experience. It just makes him look incompetent

"Fake it til you make it"
 

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33 years olds. Fell in love in high school after the “bush push”

Some solid highs, but so many lows. You have to wonder. I think we’ve peaked. Admin doesn’t help the cause. Afraid we’ll never get over the hump.

Sucks.

Btw. Buddy of mine knows Rees well. I won’t get into everything, but he saw the writing on the wall last year. Getting a chance to work for Saban is huge, but there’s more to the story here.
As in Freeman sucks and will fail? Or admin will never support coach?
 

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So I went to dinner with a few buddies tonight. All SEC guys so we obviously talked football. Someone said something tonight that definitely made me pause....it was along the lines of "Sam Hartman isn't good, his best year at WF was 3 losses and every other year he lost 5 games. Sure, he threw for a zillion yards because they were always losing. You guys got caught up in his good looks and the fact he's played for 8 years, but forgot hes a marginal QB from Wake Forrest" Love it or hate it...not much to argue as it was a factual outside take. He threw for 300 yards once this year, I'm not saying bench the guy....but maybe we were a little too optimistic with him.
Did you remind him that he was playing with a lot less talent?
 
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