'21 NJ RB Audric Estime (Notre Dame Signee)

[notredomer23]

I think Audric is very very good, but I still think Kyren was better (ducks)

Hard to compare IMO. Kyren's offensive line in 2020 was insane. This line is no where near that. Multiple times this year now, Audric has hit a gear that I didn't know a guy his size could hit, whether it was the NCSU 80 yarder or the game winner last week. Kyren will always be one of my favorites, but Estime is quickly catching up if he finishes the year strong.

 

[jprue24]

I think Audric is very very good, but I still think Kyren was better (ducks)

IMO, the pass pro alone keeps Kyren ahead.

 

[irishff1014]

Is Estime the best blocking back no, but some of you are talking like he out their blocking like a freshman which is not true as well.

 

[MacIrish75]

Hard to compare IMO. Kyren's offensive line in 2020 was insane. This line is no where near that. Multiple times this year now, Audric has hit a gear that I didn't know a guy his size could hit, whether it was the NCSU 80 yarder or the game winner last week. Kyren will always be one of my favorites, but Estime is quickly catching up if he finishes the year strong.

Rocco and Coog are only going to improve, but as a former OL and OL coach, the Zeke Correll experience brings me close to vomiting every week. It’s honestly a credit to Audric that he’s run as well as he has.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Rocco and Coog are only going to improve, but as a former OL and OL coach, the Zeke Correll experience brings me close to vomiting every week. It’s honestly a credit to Audric that he’s run as well as he has.

Yeah gonna be interested to see what our OL looks like next year

 

[MacIrish75]

Yeah gonna be interested to see what our OL looks like next year

Honest to God, Ashton Craig has the athleticism to be an NFL-caliber center. I am excited to see him get some run. Or, could Coogan slide to Center and you go Schrauth/Coogs/Spindler? There’s some options, there.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Honest to God, Ashton Craig has the athleticism to be an NFL-caliber center. I am excited to see him get some run. Or, could Coogan slide to Center and you go Schrauth/Coogs/Spindler? There’s some options, there.

Wagner, Jaguash and Gilbert all are going to be good too

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Fisher is technically a Junior with another year of eligibility left yes? Don't hear his name enough in the conversations. He has quietly had an excellent year. Kept the OSU DE in check for almost the entire game.

 

[DillonHall]

Fisher is technically a Junior with another year of eligibility left yes? Don't hear his name enough in the conversations. He has quietly had an excellent year. Kept the OSU DE in check for almost the entire game.

Fisher, Alt, Coogan, and Spindler are all true juniors. The II guys and Sampson were somewhat critical of Fisher in the first few games; he's played better as the competition has improved

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Fisher, Alt, Coogan, and Spindler are all true juniors. The II guys and Sampson were somewhat critical of Fisher in the first few games; he's played better as the competition has improved

He has two years of eligibility left after this year.

 

[DillonHall]

He has two years of eligibility left after this year.

Yes that's right, Fisher technically redshirted his freshman year. The guards red-shirted their freshman years so they have two years left

 

[Green Mountains]

I've kept my mouth quiet. But way back, Ron Dayne won a Heisman for Wisconsin, then was drafted in the first round by the Giants. Saquon Barkley, drafted, by the same New York Giants is a big back but doesn't get square to the line of scrimmage and take 3 or 4 when nothing is that.

This is the sense I get of Estime. He doesn't hit the line hard when nothing is there. He takes all these choppy little steps looking for something. For most of the game vs. Duke, he didn't just take the hard 3 yards. He baby stepped to line and got one. Sometimes, it's just not there, take all you can. Don't get me wrong, once he gets to the second level, he's a freight train. But there are way too many times when he doesn't just 3 or 4...and gets taken down for 1 or 2. He feels like Barkley that way (entirely different runners, Barkley is always looking for the homerun). And he looks like Dayne, not willing to hit the line hard.

Anyway, I was not impressed by Audric, Saturday. I preferred Love and Price just finding a little hole and driving for 4, 5 or 6. They seemed like the better options.

 

[PutuporShutup]

I've kept my mouth quiet. But way back, Ron Dayne won a Heisman for Wisconsin, then was drafted in the first round by the Giants. Saquon Barkley, drafted, by the same New York Giants is a big back but doesn't get square to the line of scrimmage and take 3 or 4 when nothing is that.

This is the sense I get of Estime. He doesn't hit the line hard when nothing is there. He takes all these choppy little steps looking for something. For most of the game vs. Duke, he didn't just take the hard 3 yards. He baby stepped to line and got one. Sometimes, it's just not there, take all you can. Don't get me wrong, once he gets to the second level, he's a freight train. But there are way too many times when he doesn't just 3 or 4...and gets taken down for 1 or 2. He feels like Barkley that way (entirely different runners, Barkley is always looking for the homerun). And he looks like Dayne, not willing to hit the line hard.

Anyway, I was not impressed by Audric, Saturday. I preferred Love and Price just finding a little hole and driving for 4, 5 or 6. They seemed like the better options.

It's a balance, he had his 30yd td due to his patience and not slamming into a hole that wasn't there. You typically are asked to hit the line hard when you don't believe the oline will create a hole, I think ND is coaching him to be patient because they believe the oline will create a seem/hole, they just didn't vs duke much. I thought Zeke and whatever our cadence plan was had our entire line slow off the snap. Despite what Freeman states, it wasn't loud at all until the fourth quarter yet we were having false starts. If you watch the video of our O vs their D, you'll see our line slower than the dline to move, that's not good.

 

[Lberry]

It's a balance, he had his 30yd td due to his patience and not slamming into a hole that wasn't there. You typically are asked to hit the line hard when you don't believe the oline will hit a hole, I think ND is coaching him to be patient because they believe the oline will create a seem/hole, they just didn't vs duke much.

If we want a tap dancer looking for the big play, give those carries to Love IMO. Hard to criticize Estime but I hear the poster's point. And thise 3 yard bully runs wear down the front 7 and turn into bigger gains down the stretch all the same.

I also want more Estime with a pitch and full speed at the edge with pulling OL. Imagine being a corner and seeing Joe Alt followed by Estime coming at you full speed.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

 

[irishff1014]

Freeman keeps saying we need to do this better and that better. Well do it. Quit talking and show it.

 

[Irish#1]

Freeman keeps saying we need to do this better and that better. Well do it. Quit talking and show it.

In all fairness, they have to wait until Saturday night to show us.

 

[irishff1014]

In all fairness, they have to wait until Saturday night to show us.

He said this after OSU and Duke and still got the same results other than a win at Duke.

 

[Luckylucci]

What's the cliche terms to use here. Get him going downhill/ north-south running, etc. They are cliche but very relevant here.

 

[ThePiombino]

What's the cliche terms to use here. Get him going downhill/ north-south running, etc. They are cliche but very relevant here.

Yep. The blocking has been putrid, so there's that. But it feels like they're asking Estime to execute run designs that are tailormade for Price and Love. I do think some of it falls on Estime - there are times where he hesitates instead of just lowering his shoulder and hitting the hole, but the reality is it seems like he's being set up to fail by the play calling.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

He looks a little banged up. Hope he’s close to 100% by Sat

 

[NDPhilly]

he's the type of back that needs to be used out of pistol / under center exclusively. Takes him awhile to get going.

 

[GrangerIrish24]

I’m convinced he’s hurt.

 

[PutuporShutup]

Yep. The blocking has been putrid, so there's that. But it feels like they're asking Estime to execute run designs that are tailormade for Price and Love. I do think some of it falls on Estime - there are times where he hesitates instead of just lowering his shoulder and hitting the hole, but the reality is it seems like he's being set up to fail by the play calling.

This, look at the first play of the game vs nc state, or ohio state, or duke. We put everyone in the box on offense, the defense puts 9 or 10 in the box and we run for nothing. This is the first play of the game, multiple games, that should be coached over and over and schemed up. Players are sleeping on it knowing exactly what the first play is, yet it's failed over and over. What's insane, is I get it if you want to see how the opposition is going to defend it (we already know this), but why do you keep running into a loaded box like this.

Use the same formation, then have everyone split out wide and then run the ball, or pass it if the defense still plays run. It's not difficult with our talent at TE, oline, QB, and RB.

What's insane is unless it's at the goal line we never load the box on D. We almost always play the run with 6 to prevent teams from being able to pass on us. We have a lot of success doing it. Yet here we are on offense, running into a stacked box where the team is daring us to throw it.

It's so bad, we'll run it into a full box, then we'll come out next series or after first down in an empty set and the team 100% knows we're throwing it, and they'll drop 7. Why we would ever i mean ever go into an empty set pre snap with our stable of running backs is beyond me. It's why we hardly PA when we should be living off of PA.

 

[tko]

Any chance the splits can tighten up on the OL, especially 3rd and short?

 

[rtrn2glory]

Any chance we just go shotgun and double split and just run it instead of being so FUCKING predictable on 3rd/4th and short?

 

[Luckylucci]

he's the type of back that needs to be used out of pistol / under center exclusively. Takes him awhile to get going.

The 2019 Camping World Bowl against ISU was Tommy’s first ever game as official OC.

Tony Jones was RB1 and a similar skillset. ISU had a fairly well regarded rushing defense at the time.

Rees got us into quite a bit of Pistol formations and Tony had a huge game on the ground.

 

[LSWho?]

This relates to something I just said in defense of Hartman in the Hartman thread. What is more likely, that our star transfer quarterback, the formerly excellent offensive line, and Estime all started playing poorly at the same time, Game 5, or that our OC has installed a poorly designed offense with no adjustments ready once tape of the offense got into competent hands?

The last time this offense looked functional was utilizing the split-backs during the OSU game, which now looks like it was a one-off for that game, which raises all sorts of questions about how practice time was apportioned during fall camp and is apportioned during the week.

 

[irishff1014]

Good story. I hope they keep running him so he can prove how good he is.

 

[Bluto]

Good story. I hope they keep running him so he can prove how good he is.

Good reminder that at the end of the day this is a game and many of the young men who play it have been through and in many cases overcome some pretty difficult circumstances.