Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

[Terry Jillery]

I read that ESPN article posted here- Brian Kelly to LSU, per report

Point is- BK turned down Florida, USC, Tennessee, and Texas while at Notre Dame. Even turned down LSU until his agent asked him to take interview as a personal issue. BK probably just feels his coaching career is done within 5 years and LSU was the easier path to the NC because he knows they are singly focused on it. I've moved on as an ND fan.

Put yourself in Jack and Jenkins shoes- did BK give you full confidence to win a national championship with unlimited resources? Not to trash BK, but we have all seen the disappointing team performances over the years, many when we had superior talent. I feel as a ND fan that it was time to move on from BK and feel better about putting more resources behind a coach that can win a national championship. Freeman gives me that hope and time will tell.

It was time to move on for both parties. He wasn’t a fireable coach.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

Why are ND surprised the way he left??? It’s the same way he arrived at ND.

LSU did to ND as ND did to Cinnci.

Pretty much shows the levels of commitment to winning too.

Dick rider.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Except LSU lost last night. Don’t forget that little inconvenient cherry about “commitment to winning”.

Yea LSU might fire BK whereas we would keep him and are sour grapes he left ND. A pathetic look really. Typical ND though.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Dick rider.

You need to use a homophobic slur, really?

 

[Terry Jillery]

I agree. If MF gets 10 game season and victories he will write his own ticket to OSU or another school willing to pay what he is worth. I hope to enjoy him now. Our best chance to be a Top 10 season is THIS year w Hartmann as QB.

Black coaches are needed and ADs are facing pressure for more inclusion. Freeman and Coach Prime are in great positions to look at $9 or $10MM a year paydays soon.

And if ND wouldn’t out bid all of those to keep him they would prove their position in the pecking order of CFB. If Freeman wins a playoff game, ND should make him the highest paid coach in the country, if that’s what it would take to keep him.

 

[Irishdrunk]

And if ND wouldn’t out bid all of those to keep him they would prove their position in the pecking order of CFB. If Freeman wins a playoff game, ND should make him the highest paid coach in the country, if that’s what it would take to keep him.

They wouldn’t even get him his choice for OC. Please.

 

[GreenGemsOmally]

Where is MF better than Bk? Sample size is too small to conclude anything about MF other than he is more likable fellow. This season and next will tell a lot.

Just off of the top of my head:

Recruiting is up in that we're going after the big names and hitting on a few (CJ Carr and Cam Williams, for example),

QB play is improving in my eyes and it's not just Hartman

Coaching cohesion is a lot better so we aren't seeing nearly as many of those weird false starts, delays of games on the first play needing to burn a TO, etc. So far, I'm happy with our coordinator hires, although Gerad Parker still I'm waiting to evaluate. But the other guys have been great and seeing us able to actually put talented Freshmen on the field at WR and RB and have them perform pretty well is telling to me, it's something we rarely did with BK's teams.

We absolutely demolished Clemson last year, so Freeman was able to get a top 10 win under his belt in the first year, which is something we were starved for under Kelly.

 

[Grahambo]

I’m glad ND has MF and not BK. Same for Shrew and Brey.

 

[FDNYIrish1]

You need to use a homophobic slur, really?

Nice try loser. The things you shit on Notre Dame about are the reasons a lot of us are fans. I know you’re a troll but your act is tired around here. Don’t like NDs commitment to football? Root for someone else. It’s really that simple. You ruin every damn thread with the same whiny BS.

 

[Terry Jillery]

IF Freeman ever ends up at Ohio State, and I think he will based on his age alone, it will be a sad day for the Big10. If he doesn’t end up at Ohio State, he probably wasn’t as good as we hope. The guy isn’t even 40. He will still be more than a decade younger than Saban is now 20 years from now. Unless he fails miserably at ND, decides to be the longest serving ND coach ever by a mile, or decides to retire young, he will still be coaching somewhere 20-30 years from now.

 

[arrowryan]

IF Freeman ever ends up at Ohio State, and I think he will based on his age alone, it will be a sad day for the Big10. If he doesn’t end up at Ohio State, he probably wasn’t as good as we hope. The guy isn’t even 40. He will still be more than a decade younger than Saban is now 20 years from now.

I’m not so sure about that. He seems really blunt into what Notre Dame is, and some of his comments he’s made makes me think he’s not a sure thing to end up back at OSU.

 

[stlnd01]

I agree. If MF gets 10 game season and victories he will write his own ticket to OSU or another school willing to pay what he is worth. I hope to enjoy him now. Our best chance to be a Top 10 season is THIS year w Hartmann as QB.

Black coaches are needed and ADs are facing pressure for more inclusion. Freeman and Coach Prime are in great positions to look at $9 or $10MM a year paydays soon.

I don't know that Freeman would leave ND (any time soon) for just any job or marginally more money. He seems like he knows what he has here. He's also a Midwesterner with a whole bunch of young children he may not want to uproot. That was a factor in why he came here instead of going to LSU in the first place.
But if we surpass Ohio State over the next few seasons and they move on from Day, yes I would think they would come hard for Freeman and he'd have a tough time saying no.

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

Dick rider.

 

[Terry Jillery]

I’m not so sure about that. He seems really blunt into what Notre Dame is, and some of his comments he’s made makes me think he’s not a sure thing to end up back at OSU.

I get that and you may be correct in the short run, but will he still be ND’s coach 20 years from now when he’s 57? That’s a long time for even the greatest coaches ever.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

I agree. If MF gets 10 game season and victories he will write his own ticket to OSU or another school willing to pay what he is worth. I hope to enjoy him now. Our best chance to be a Top 10 season is THIS year w Hartmann as QB.

Black coaches are needed and ADs are facing pressure for more inclusion. Freeman and Coach Prime are in great positions to look at $9 or $10MM a year paydays soon.

Exactly.


I love MF, and want to see him succeed here for decades, but MF going to OSU would at least mean he had great success here. That call isn’t placed if not.

Great success also means MF proved ND is a program someone actually motivated can win at, and filling the slot wouldn’t be the bear it is right now due to the aforementioned stigma.


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[ND88]

Yea LSU might fire BK whereas we would keep him and are sour grapes he left ND. A pathetic look really. Typical ND though.

We aren’t sour grapes he left. We don’t like when a longstanding former coach throws ND under the bus. Seems like a concept you could admit easily if you weren’t talking out of both sides of your mouth. BK’s a bigtime coach that ND was lucky to have, but didn’t have the balls to fire. LSU might fire him because they are a level ahead of us, but they were also smart enough to go out and pay big money for an elite coach like Kelly.

Stop pointing fingers about pathetic 😂

 

[PutuporShutup]

IF Freeman ever ends up at Ohio State, and I think he will based on his age alone, it will be a sad day for the Big10. If he doesn’t end up at Ohio State, he probably wasn’t as good as we hope. The guy isn’t even 40. He will still be more than a decade younger than Saban is now 20 years from now. Unless he fails miserably at ND, decides to be the longest serving ND coach ever by a mile, or decides to retire young, he will still be coaching somewhere 20-30 years from now.

Win a championship and the Fan base/alumni will ensure ND does whatever it takes to keep him

The tougher situation would be if he's good enough to get to a CFP or two but doesn't win it

 

[Terry Jillery]

Win a championship and the Fan base/alumni will ensure ND does whatever it takes to keep him

The tougher situation would be if he's good enough to get to a CFP or two but doesn't win it

Good point. But I can’t even imagine the fury of the ND fan base and media if we got out bid and lost our 37 y/o black head coach if he won a playoff game. I would possibly never watch football again and become a ND fencing fan.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Nice try loser. The things you shit on Notre Dame about are the reasons a lot of us are fans. I know you’re a troll but your act is tired around here. Don’t like NDs commitment to football? Root for someone else. It’s really that simple. You ruin every damn thread with the same whiny BS.

You are correct I don’t like ND’s commitment to Football. I am not a Troll and I give props to Freeman. I have been clear that I think BK is a really good coach that maxed out ND due to its like of commitment. I am sorry you are emotional and need to use a homophobic slur to lodge your displeasure with my opinions but we are living in 2023 and using racist or homophobic rants need to be called out as totally unacceptable use of language. Please disagree in a different way.

 

[Irishdrunk]

Win a championship and the Fan base/alumni will ensure ND does whatever it takes to keep him

The tougher situation would be if he's good enough to get to a CFP or two but doesn't win it

That’s the likely scenario.

 

[forkbeard3777]

Not going to lie

Not that it makes any difference (since my team was not involved) but I watched most of the game and got somewhat different impressions.
A. Both teams are loaded with high octane speed and physical people; I thought LSU slightly more so;
B. Both teams seem like potential turnover or at least mistake machines, and the LSU QB like a shiny race car that you can't really depend upon for a full season's worth of races;
C. LSU outplayed FSU (I'd say significantly) in the first half, and with the exception of frequent boneheads (dropped passes especially) would have scored about 30 on FSU that half. The game inverted in the second half and I think Coach may be boggled at that collapse. At Notre Dame his teams might lose a game in the second half, but I don't recall many where we outplayed the other guys in the first half and then lost "going away"; (Are they not in shape? Or are they not mentally tough?)
D. I kept expecting the last year's defensive phenom (#4?) to do something but sometimes wondered if he was even on the field. I watched him specifically on several plays where he didn't even look actively involved. Why would anyone play a guy like that in a position where he was out of his talent (or mental) zone?
E. Rushing three men occasionally --- even given LSU's guys, this was really stupid. When they pressured the FSU QB he quaked. When not, he killed. I still believe that the secondary looks potentially very good;
F. I think that LSU is going to win a lot of games and maybe against some big guns --- hopefully Alabama for one. But they don't look built mentally for consistency. In a way this fiasco might be good for their SEC season, since it has nothing to do with the League and might wake some of the idiots up.

... but this is not Notre Dame, so who really cares?

I agree with all this. You’re directly on point. However, I do think we will drop one or two to a team that we shouldn’t (Missouri, Auburn, Ole Miss, etc.).

 

[FDNYIrish1]

You are correct I don’t like ND’s commitment to Football. I am not a Troll and I give props to Freeman. I have been clear that I think BK is a really good coach that maxed out ND due to its like of commitment. I am sorry you are emotional and need to use a homophobic slur to lodge your displeasure with my opinions but we are living in 2023 and using racist or homophobic rants need to be called out as totally unacceptable use of language. Please disagree in a different way.

I have no idea what gender you are you insensitive prick. How dare you label my post homophobic. Nice attempt at deflection though when everyone knows my comment wasn’t in a literal sense. You’re a BK fanperson, it’s cool.

 

[ColinKSU]

The amount of ND fans on Twitter posting about BK is wild. I don’t get why people care so much. It’s kind of embarrassing how many ND fans are still obsessed with BK.

Obsessed? I think he’s a dork and dorks deserve to be clowned on.

 

[Irishdrunk]

I have no idea what gender you are you insensitive prick. How dare you label my post homophobic. Nice attempt at deflection though when everyone knows my comment wasn’t in a literal sense. You’re a BK fanperson, it’s cool.

It was and is a homophobic slur and IT IS NOT COOL.

If you understood how gay people endure ridicule like this and it creates an environment of lack of acceptance in a group, you would choose your words more wisely. Gay people don’t choose to be gay - and so such remarks are unacceptable. Please stop.

 

[Foreverirish34]

I love watching BK fail. Yep I’m petty… Tom Petty…

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

It was and is a homophobic slur. If you understood how gay people endure ridicule like this and it creates an environment of lack of acceptance in a group, you would choose your words more wisely. Gay people don’t choose to be gay - and so such remarks are unacceptable. Please stop.

One to many DEI sessions for you.


It is a joke. If I can take anti- Catholic jokes by people like you, you can take a throw away comment. Stop policing words.

 

[IrishLax]

 

[Irish2155]

AP will probably still find a way to rank LSU above ND in the next poll.

 

[ab2cmiller]

AP will probably still find a way to rank LSU above ND in the next poll.

This is the way of the AP, has nothing to do with ND. If you are a #5 seed and you lose to the #8 seed on the road, you will most likely not fall out of the top 10. Even if you lose by 21.

 

[PutuporShutup]

HA. LSU did get the bad end of officiating last night