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My point is and stands clear. Anyone criticizing this movie (even deflecting to a country music video) from what it is, is pro-petofilia. Nothing more or less.

It’s nuts that we can’t agree on a topic that SHOULD be so agreeable. But here we are.
My point stands clear. You're a moron.
 

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And The Sound of Freedom is a 14 million dollar movie starring Jim Caviezel made by a studio no one has ever heard of.

They're equally irrelevant.
$100 million in box office numbers on a small budget is hardly irrelevant. Indiana Jones may have pulled in 3 times that by now, but it also cost $285 million more to make. That one just broke even, and their sales are down to $1-2 million a day.
 

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My point is and stands clear. Anyone criticizing this movie (even deflecting to a country music video) from what it is, is pro-petofilia. Nothing more or less.

It’s nuts that we can’t agree on a topic that SHOULD be so agreeable. But here we are.
I found this review to give an unbiased account as to why some are critical of this movie. You can agree or disagree with the reasons, but none of them are pro-pedophile
 

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I found this review to give an unbiased account as to why some are critical of this movie. You can agree or disagree with the reasons, but none of them are pro-pedophile
Can’t read, but if it’s unbiased then good for you and them. Hard to find unbiased these days. Still not sure how any bias relates however on this topic.

Full disclosure. I have no kids…. So, in theory, I shouldn’t care…wrong. Leave the children alone, period.
 

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Can’t read, but if it’s unbiased then good for you and them. Hard to find unbiased these days. Still not sure how any bias relates however on this topic.

Full disclosure. I have no kids…. So, in theory, I shouldn’t care…wrong. Leave the children alone, period.
I provided another link above. I’m not sure if you’ll find it unbiased like I did, but it at least lays out valid criticisms, not so much of the film itself, but of stuff adjacent to the film.
 

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I did a fun thing and read this thread backward because I wondered how the hell it ended up on the Jason Aldean music video controversy and I should’ve known it was something that boiled over from the Politics thread.
 

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What the hell is wrong with you? Go around calling people pedophiles for not liking a movie?

Never seen it, how can they like it or not?

I very clearly said anyone making this movie into something it isn’t is, imo, is pro-pedofile. There’s literally no other reason. If there is, enlightening me.

Elaborate please your opinions on the flick? If valid, then I will respect that.
 

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Never seen it, how can they like it or not?

I very clearly said anyone making this movie into something it isn’t is, imo, is pro-pedofile. There’s literally no other reason. If there is, enlightening me.

Elaborate please your opinions on the flick? If valid, then I will respect that.
Reviewers that have reviewed it haven't seen the movie?

I haven't seen it, and all I have said in this thread is that the trailer looked like shit to me. Looks like typical Liam Neeson geezer teaser schlock.
 

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Reviewers that have reviewed it haven't seen the movie?

I haven't seen it, and all I have said in this thread is that the trailer looked like shit to me. Looks like typical Liam Neeson geezer teaser schlock.
The whole discussion was brought bc of its unworldly reviews. 100% on Tomatometer is what I recall. I could look back to verify if you want.

Let’s leave it here, then pick up when you get a glimpse. Cool? And my apologies for calling Dublin a Ped. That was not cool.
 

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I found this review to give an unbiased account as to why some are critical of this movie. You can agree or disagree with the reasons, but none of them are pro-pedophile
Hardly unbiased, they're bringing up points completely unrelated to the film in an effort to discredit it. This is WaPo we're talking about. If they made it a point to talk about the finer points of the movie I could see it being an unbiased account. They didn't really do that, save for talking about their box office surprise numbers. They spend most of the article talking about QAnon and questioning groups that try to save kids from trafficking.

The article touches heavily on Caviezel's personal opinions, none of which are any part of the film. This whole line of reasoning is just silly, it would be like saying people shouldn't see Mission Impossible because Tom Cruise has ties to those crazy Scientologists (Liberal media would never do such a thing). It also tries to undermine the work that agencies like Operation Underground Railroad do by questioning their numbers, when in the same breath they say that investigations haven't been able to disprove their reports. "Caviezel’s version of Ballard spends much of the movie sneaking through criminal hideouts to find the children, risking his life and finally beating up the traffickers." That's quite the exaggeration if you've seen the movie. I don't want to spoil anything, but like I said in another post this is hardly like other action flicks where a Rambo type is destroying guys left and right. "It’s a fairly standard American action thriller." Obviously it's not if it's this controversial. It was a bit surreal hearing how silent the audience and the theatre itself was during some pivotal points of the film, something you don't often get. They also reference the experts (They should change that to expert, singular) that Rolling Stone referenced in their article.

Seriously, you guys need to see the film for yourself. These articles are trying to make the film something it is not.
 
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Some Scientology ties, but like no one is going to be "pro-terrorism". If it's a rounabout way to make people more aware of terrorism then so be it. Probably missing the bigger issue but it's a tough message to be against lol.




 

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"Star of Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One has avoided any and all Scientology questions and instead leaned into the role of Movie Savior"
That's like the exact opposite of what Rolling Stone did for their Sound of Freedom review. They went on and on about QAnon when, again, the movie avoided QAnon and politics all together. Why they feel the need to reference topics completely unrelated to a film when discussing said film is beyond me. It has no place.
 

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The greatest irony is that Jason Aldean, who probably really thought he had something with that song, (1) didn’t even grow up in a small town, and (2) didn’t even write the shitty song.

So now he gets to deal with the backlash for a while, when he was just trying to get an easy hit out there. He’s taking the fire for the song writers (lazy country narrative) and video director (didn’t do nearly enough research).

Probably be good for his business in the end, though, so I think he’ll be okay lol.
My favorite part of the online controversy was Sheryl Crow trying to shit on him for not going to in a small town while claiming she did.... as though she doesn't have a Wikipedia page indicating she didn't either lol
 

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I did a fun thing and read this thread backward because I wondered how the hell it ended up on the Jason Aldean music video controversy and I should’ve known it was something that boiled over from the Politics thread.
Anyone who watched My Chemical Romance's "Ghost of You" music video knows that music videos count as movies!
 

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If you want a serious review of the film and just the film without an agenda, this is the one you want. It praises some aspects, like the performances of actors Bill Camp and the children, while arguing that the pacing is all over the place at times and it could have been more concise:
 

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My favorite part of the online controversy was Sheryl Crow trying to shit on him for not going to in a small town while claiming she did.... as though she doesn't have a Wikipedia page indicating she didn't either lol
Jason Aldeans mistake was not adding enough bass and/or a Dre type beat making it a hip/hop song. Rappers rep their murder towns all the time.
 

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Hardly unbiased, they're bringing up points completely unrelated to the film in an effort to discredit it. This is WaPo we're talking about. If they made it a point to talk about the finer points of the movie I could see it being an unbiased account. They didn't really do that, save for talking about their box office surprise numbers. They spend most of the article talking about QAnon and questioning groups that try to save kids from trafficking.

The article touches heavily on Caviezel's personal opinions, none of which are any part of the film. This whole line of reasoning is just silly, it would be like saying people shouldn't see Mission Impossible because Tom Cruise has ties to those crazy Scientologists (Liberal media would never do such a thing). It also tries to undermine the work that agencies like Operation Underground Railroad do by questioning their numbers, when in the same breath they say that investigations haven't been able to disprove their reports. "Caviezel’s version of Ballard spends much of the movie sneaking through criminal hideouts to find the children, risking his life and finally beating up the traffickers." That's quite the exaggeration if you've seen the movie. I don't want to spoil anything, but like I said in another post this is hardly like other action flicks where a Rambo type is destroying guys left and right. "It’s a fairly standard American action thriller." Obviously it's not if it's this controversial. It was a bit surreal hearing how silent the audience and the theatre itself was during some pivotal points of the film, something you don't often get. They also reference the experts (They should change that to expert, singular) that Rolling Stone referenced in their article.

Seriously, you guys need to see the film for yourself. These articles are trying to make the film something it is not.
So to make it unbiased, they should have reviewed the movie? They’re REPORTING reasons why the movie has received criticism.

It’s not a movie review. It’s a ‘pop culture’ article about a surprise hit movie whose star personally linked the movie to a batshit cult. That alone is worthy of criticism.
 

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So to make it unbiased, they should have reviewed the movie? They’re REPORTING reasons why the movie has received criticism.

It’s not a movie review. It’s a ‘pop culture’ article about a surprise hit movie whose star personally linked the movie to a batshit cult. That alone is worthy of criticism.
You said it was an unbiased review. It reads much like the Rolling Stone article. It has a bunch of drivel that has 0 to do with the movie. They're reporting on a bunch of unrelated noise, it's not worth the time.
If you want an unbiased review, read the one I posted.
 

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So to make it unbiased, they should have reviewed the movie? They’re REPORTING reasons why the movie has received criticism.

It’s not a movie review. It’s a ‘pop culture’ article about a surprise hit movie whose star personally linked the movie to a batshit cult. That alone is worthy of criticism.
What’s your problem, dude? You can’t be serious.

You’ve made it clear you hate God. And that’s cool, I’m not the most faith driven person either.

But seriously wtf is wrong with you?

Twist and turn, until the pedo narrative fits…wrong topic man. Stop making what it is not.
 

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What’s your problem, dude? You can’t be serious.

You’ve made it clear you hate God. And that’s cool, I’m not the most faith driven person either.

But seriously wtf is wrong with you?

Twist and turn, until the pedo narrative fits…wrong topic man. Stop making what it is not.
Were you in the level 1 classes at Roncalli?
 

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The greatest irony is that Jason Aldean, who probably really thought he had something with that song, (1) didn’t even grow up in a small town, and (2) didn’t even write the shitty song.

So now he gets to deal with the backlash for a while, when he was just trying to get an easy hit out there. He’s taking the fire for the song writers (lazy country narrative) and video director (didn’t do nearly enough research).

Probably be good for his business in the end, though, so I think he’ll be okay lol.
Saw this morning the song is at the top of the charts. Looks like all the protesting had the opposite effect.
 

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Jason Aldean has stirred major controversy with his new video for "Try That in a Small Town," but the production company behind the clip says people are reading too much into the choice of locations for the shoot.

Read More: Jason Aldean 'Did Not Pick the Location' for His New Video | REPORT: Jason Aldean 'Did Not Pick the Location' for His Controversial New Video

Prominent Nashville-based director Shaun Silva directed Aldean's "Try That in a Small Town" video, and in a statement to Entertainment Tonight, the production company, Tacklebox, says the location is a "popular filming location outside of Nashville."

The statement cites a recent Lifetime Original movie titled Steppin' Into the Holiday that starred Mario Lopez and Jana Kramer as another production that used the same location, as well as Runaway June's "We Were Rich" video, a Paramount Network film titled A Nashville Country Christmas with Tanya Tucker and the Hannah Montana film.
 

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So people are discrediting the movie because an actor has personal beliefs they don't like? Even though said beliefs have no impact on the movie?
 
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