'24 TX S Paul Mencke Jr (Duke Verbal)

[MacIrish75]

Young fella passed on ND for a chance at a couple free vacays. Best of luck.

 

[NDPhilly]

Weird recruitment. Must feel good ab ziglar?

 

[NDFAN2008]

ISD now saying ND won't pursue Mencke any further. Seems like the ship has sailed.

Stupid decision if you ask me. You don't stop pursuing a kid unless you got the safety spots all locked down, Urlacher isn't a future safety as it sits we will most likely land Tae, but Tae isn't a gurantee what happens if he struggles with his class work senior year? Hillman all over? Andrews won't be here until 2026. We need 3-4 safeties in this class.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Stupid decision if you ask me. You don't stop pursuing a kid unless you got the safety spots all locked down, Urlacher isn't a future safety as it sits we will most likely land Tae, but Tae isn't a gurantee what happens if he struggles with his class work senior year? Hillman all over? Andrews won't be here until 2026. We need 3-4 safeties in this class.

They will get their safeties. And they’ll hit their numbers.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Weird recruitment. Must feel good ab ziglar?

In the end, yes.

 

[Katzenboyer]

Weird recruitment. Must feel good ab ziglar?

Think they feel good about Tae, Ziglar, Miles AND McClain.

 

[Denny]

Fong and Loy with the CB to Duke.

 

[MacIrish75]

Fong and Loy with the CB to Duke.

Okay but what about his vacation to scenic Seattle?

 

[NDMatt91]

If we lose out on Mencke and Tae pops soon, I really hope they don't push for Miles. Since I highly doubt that Urlacher will be a Safety at ND and Tae will be transitioning to Safety full-time, I'd rather the 3rd Safety spot go to someone who has mainly played Safety in HS and projects as a Safety in college. ISD folks were saying that Miles would need a lot of work at Safety.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

If we lose out on Mencke and Tae pops soon, I really hope they don't push for Miles. Since I highly doubt that Urlacher will be a Safety at ND and Tae will be transitioning to Safety full-time, I'd rather the 3rd Safety spot go to someone who has mainly played Safety in HS and projects as a Safety in college. ISD folks were saying that Miles would need a lot of work at Safety.

Ziglar

 

[dublinirish]

If we lose out on Mencke and Tae pops soon, I really hope they don't push for Miles. Since I highly doubt that Urlacher will be a Safety at ND and Tae will be transitioning to Safety full-time, I'd rather the 3rd Safety spot go to someone who has mainly played Safety in HS and projects as a Safety in college. ISD folks were saying that Miles would need a lot of work at Safety.

The type you are looking for them is Davis right?


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[IAIrish]

I was actually trying to reply to IAIrish, but quoted the wrong post. Totally get your perspective on it, though.

Me as well. Completley understand why opinions differ. To each their own.

 

[Luckylucci]

If we lose out on Mencke and Tae pops soon, I really hope they don't push for Miles. Since I highly doubt that Urlacher will be a Safety at ND and Tae will be transitioning to Safety full-time, I'd rather the 3rd Safety spot go to someone who has mainly played Safety in HS and projects as a Safety in college. ISD folks were saying that Miles would need a lot of work at Safety.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't think the next S after Tae would shutdown the position so I think this is a moot point.

However, I'm team Miles because I think with the board as such, we're recruiting developmental prospects anyways. Focus on the guys with the upside. A dude that is an elite triple jumper has some tangible attributes to work with that not many do.

 

[irishnd31]

I'm not asking anyone to justify anything, to be clear. I'm simply stating that I think it's garbage and the situation present day is even worse than ever.

I used to be into it about as much as anybody several years ago. Over the years I've come to consume it with indifference.

 

[Irishnuke]

Imagine turning down Notre Dame so you can go visit Duke. Recruiting is weird.

 

[Luckylucci]

In Loy's post about changing his CB to Duke. He said that he'll have more on it later but for now, call it a miscommunication on final decisions and timetables.

Changed a CB pick to another program

Changed a CB pick to another program

247sports.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Imagine turning down Notre Dame so you can go visit Duke. Recruiting is weird.

To a Notre Dame message board, it makes no sense. To the rest of the world, it's a problem most people would really have no problem having.

Now if this were Rice University, I'd think he has mental problems.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Committed to Duke Safety recruiting is looking awfully bad again.

 

[FWIrish4]

Committed to Duke Safety recruiting is looking awfully bad again.

Someone hasn’t seen the Peyton Bowen thread!

 

[NDPhilly]

Ziglar and Tae would be a damn good safety class IMO

 

[IAIrish]

Not great, Clark.

Duke lands commitment from Four-Star Safety Paul Mencke Jr

Mencke chose the Blue Devils over double digit Power Five offers

247sports.com

 

[Reaper97]

Not great, Clark.

Duke lands commitment from Four-Star Safety Paul Mencke Jr

Mencke chose the Blue Devils over double digit Power Five offers

247sports.com

You are surprised by this?

He committed to ND on his visit.
Then on Sunday told the staff he was still taking his scheduled visits.
The staff told him they couldn’t accept his commitment if he was still taking OV’s.
They gave him a timeline to decide or they were moving on. He kept his visits, they moved on.
They could have still got him if they pushed, but they chose not to.
That’s a Freeman decision.

 

[IAIrish]

You are surprised by this?

He committed to ND on his visit.
Then on Sunday told the staff he was still taking his scheduled visits.
The staff told him they couldn’t accept his commitment if he was still taking OV’s.
They gave him a timeline to decide or they were moving on. He kept his visits, they moved on.
They could have still got him if they pushed, but they chose not to.
That’s a Freeman decision.

No, not surprised. Seems fair at this point to question Freeman's decision, knowing we have the benefit of hindsight.
Getting Johnson on board is big. The rest of the board is a question.

You ideally pair that with a guy that has played a lot of safety, in case your potential. McClain was that guy for me, even if a long shot.. I'm not sold Ziglar plays to his track times.

Are you buying what IB is selling?

 

[arrowryan]

You are surprised by this?

He committed to ND on his visit.
Then on Sunday told the staff he was still taking his scheduled visits.
The staff told him they couldn’t accept his commitment if he was still taking OV’s.
They gave him a timeline to decide or they were moving on. He kept his visits, they moved on.
They could have still got him if they pushed, but they chose not to.
That’s a Freeman decision.

Moving on to who though?Lol.

That all sounds good and fine, but they “moved on” from him to literally no one.

“We can’t accept your commitment if you still want to visit other schools. If you still want to commit after your visits, we’ll be happy to have you” sounds much more logical

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Moving on to who though?Lol.

That all sounds good and fine, but they “moved on” from him to literally no one.

“We can’t accept your commitment if you still want to visit other schools. If you still want to commit after your visits, we’ll be happy to have you” sounds much more logical

They moved on to Miles, Ziglar, and Davis (mission)

 

[INLaw]

Miles looks like no
Ziglar 🤷🏻
Davis 2026 mission=
Must really see Urlacher as a safety

 

[Reaper97]

Moving on to who though?Lol.

That all sounds good and fine, but they “moved on” from him to literally no one.

“We can’t accept your commitment if you still want to visit other schools. If you still want to commit after your visits, we’ll be happy to have you” sounds much more logical

Don’t tell us, write Marcus Freeman a sternly worded letter.
It’s his call.

Also, I wasn’t sure how flexible the corners are to playing Safety, but IB mentioned earlier today that Hobbs, Moore & Beasley (if they flip him), could all play Safety at ND.

 

[INLaw]

Don’t tell us, write Marcus Freeman a sternly worded letter.
It’s his call.

Also, I wasn’t sure how flexible the corners are to playing Safety, but IB mentioned earlier today that Hobbs, Moore & Beasley (if they flip him), could all play Safety at ND.

Sounds aces, whose gonna come in as corners in this class then? Not directed at you Reaper its just a frustration at not just the culling the board too soon but also the fact that many of us think they needed 4-5 actual safeties (played safety before) and staff doesn’t and also think Urlacher if anything is a rover to linebacker type.

 

[Reaper97]

Sounds aces, whose gonna come in as corners in this class then? Not directed at you Reaper its just a frustration at not just the culling the board too soon but also the fact that many of us think they needed 4-5 actual safeties (played safety before) and staff doesn’t and also think Urlacher if anything is a rover to linebacker type.

I’m thinking ND is looking at they only need 2 Corners after the past two successful classes.
So if they flip Beasley, or recruit another Corner late (like last year), they wouldn’t need all three to play Corner, switching one to Safety.
Then add that to the Safties they get.

 

[INLaw]

I am good with regularly moving corners to safety of that is what we can recruit. We seem to often be a few bodies shy in the defensive backfield so just want more bodies. Particularly ones that look like they will stay dbs and not become linebackers. The more the better since they make up your special teams