'24 TX S Paul Mencke Jr (Duke Verbal)

[BobbyMac]

I doubt that but never know

I say that based on stuff coming from AAU basketball folks in Indiana.

 

[NDFAN2008]

His article with Loy said he might take other visits or one more unless it’s all hear say

 

[stlnd01]

Side question: Why is it that a ND lean is a flip risk if school x offers, but if player Y is committed elsewhere and ND offers he is never a flip to ND risk?

We flip other schools’ recruits every cycle. Pretty sure Pitt saw Minchey as a flip risk from the moment we offered last year, for instance. They’d have been stupid not to.

But the pull of Home State U can be a powerful thing and we don’t really have that advantage. So it’s always a bit of a question when a kid doesn’t have an offer from the local power, could they come in late and grab him?

 

[Reaper97]

His article with Loy said he might take other visits or one more unless it’s all hear say

I believe he said he might take one more, but he is close to deciding.
He also said that Freeman told him if he doesn’t commit, someone else will.
It seems from all the info out there that he wants to commit, but still had one more visit he wanted to take, but ND told him he can’t do both & they had others wanting on board. (Forcing his hand).

 

[Reaper97]

Never understood the freak out over safety this cycle.

They're gonna sign so many guys that Tae will get his wish and be a WR.

Tae realizes his best chance of maximizing his potential is at Safety.

 

[BobbyMac]

Tae realizes his best chance of maximizing his potential is at Safety.

Source?

Not what I heard.

 

[IAIrish]

People were/are losing their minds about Safety recruiting, and by tomorrow ND could have both Mencke & Tae Johnson in the class.

With you on fans losing their minds, but concern was/is warranted when comparing the board to last years, imo.

Last year at this time, we had Shuler and Bowen in the boat with Caleb Downs and some other legit prospects visiting.

I like the upside of the guys visiting, particularly Johnson, but there's still a difference between this year's and last. And two weeks ago, Johnson wasn't a take according to the beat.

 

[Reaper97]

Source?

Not what I heard.

Your AAU basketball sources? In Indiana?
My source is here in Indiana, where I’m at, who is involved with Indiana HS recruiting. Talked to him about it last Saturday, at a get together that had quite a few D1 prospects from Indiana at it, including Ian Moore.

Why do you think he pushed so hard to get his grades up to get into ND when he could go play WR a bunch of other places?
The ND staff was able to show him his value at Safety.

 

[Reaper97]

With you on fans losing their minds, but concern was/is warranted when comparing the board to last years, imo.

Last year at this time, we had Shuler and Bowen in the boat with Caleb Downs and some other legit prospects visiting.

I like the upside of the guys visiting, particularly Johnson, but there's still a difference between this year's and last. And two weeks ago, Johnson wasn't a take according to the beat.

Johnson was always a take football-wise.
The risk was would he qualify? So ND wasn’t willing to take that risk at the time.
But if he was academically sound, he would have been a take.

 

[BobbyMac]

Your AAU basketball sources? In Indiana?
My source is here in Indiana, where I’m at, who is involved with Indiana HS recruiting. Talked to him about it last Saturday, at a get together that had quite a few D1 prospects from Indiana at it, including Ian Moore.

Why do you think he pushed so hard to get his grades up to get into ND when he could go play WR a bunch of other places?
The ND staff was able to show him his value at Safety.

Yes, I'm from Michiana. My circle of friends is mostly basketball as that's my background. My football connections besides a few buddies who still coach / officiate is from my fondness of football recruiting and my past internet presence.

When Tae goes to ND and never gets a look at WR, I'll believe it. I can tell you the words WR have very recently come out his mouth.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Your AAU basketball sources? In Indiana?
My source is here in Indiana, where I’m at, who is involved with Indiana HS recruiting. Talked to him about it last Saturday, at a get together that had quite a few D1 prospects from Indiana at it, including Ian Moore.

Why do you think he pushed so hard to get his grades up to get into ND when he could go play WR a bunch of other places?
The ND staff was able to show him his value at Safety.

Also is path to playing time sooner would be at safety

 

[PutuporShutup]

Side question: Why is it that a ND lean is a flip risk if school x offers, but if player Y is committed elsewhere and ND offers he is never a flip to ND risk?

I think pro and con to having to nationally recruit way more than other top
Schools. This being a con. You aren’t winning a title full of Illinois and Indiana recruits. We have no Indiana and 1 Illinois recruit in 24 class so far. Most top teams can use their geography as the teams foundation. So for almost every recruit we aren’t the home team favorite.

 

[arrowryan]

Fong’d

 

[TNUtoNotreDame]

 

[FWIrish4]

Yes, I'm from Michiana. My circle of friends is mostly basketball as that's my background. My football connections besides a few buddies who still coach / officiate is from my fondness of football recruiting and my past internet presence.

When Tae goes to ND and never gets a look at WR, I'll believe it. I can tell you the words WR have very recently come out his mouth.

His training crew has also been trying to convince him of his upside at safety vs. WR, which obviously helps with ND’s defensive pitch.

 

[notredomer23]

The Gold Standard: Scoop on Notre Dame’s major recruiting weekend

Blue & Gold's Mike Singer has been working the phones for his latest Notre Dame recruiting intel in this week's Gold Standard report.

www.on3.com

Interesting that Singer has a much more negative view than the rest here.

 

[fightingirish26]

The Gold Standard: Scoop on Notre Dame’s major recruiting weekend

Blue & Gold's Mike Singer has been working the phones for his latest Notre Dame recruiting intel in this week's Gold Standard report.

www.on3.com

Interesting that Singer has a much more negative view than the rest here.

Without having on3 access, I'm thinking out loud.

The number is 4 safeties with Urlacher being one of them. Tae Johnson and Davis Andrews could pop this weekend. Anthony Robinson just camped. Ziglar and Oliver Miles are still possibilities.

Sounds like Mencke left campus without committing. Could backfire for him as far as his ND recruitment goes.

 

[dublinirish]

Andrews having his OV still on is interesting


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[notredomer23]

Without having on3 access, I'm thinking out loud.

The number is 4 safeties with Urlacher being one of them. Tae Johnson and Davis Andrews could pop this weekend. Anthony Robinson just camped. Ziglar and Oliver Miles are still possibilities.

Sounds like Mencke left campus without committing. Could backfire for him as far as his ND recruitment goes.

Yeah, essentially says ND will either know tonight or they're going to move on.

I don't think Andrews is factored too much into this as they view him as a '26 recruit.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Without having on3 access, I'm thinking out loud.

The number is 4 safeties with Urlacher being one of them. Tae Johnson and Davis Andrews could pop this weekend. Anthony Robinson just camped. Ziglar and Oliver Miles are still possibilities.

Sounds like Mencke left campus without committing. Could backfire for him as far as his ND recruitment goes.

Mencke is a silent

 

[Reaper97]

Mencke is a silent

He wanted to commit, but has to cancel his other visits.
Turns out he hasn’t so ND told him they are still looking then.
With Johnson on campus & multiple other Safties coming on visits, ND isn’t waiting.
Mencke will have to cancel his visits or he is out.
Sounds like he still is doing the visits, so his silent is no more.

 

[NDFAN2008]

He wanted to commit, but has to cancel his other visits.
Turns out he hasn’t so ND told him they are still looking then.
With Johnson on campus & multiple other Safties coming on visits, ND isn’t waiting.
Mencke will have to cancel his visits or he is out.
Sounds like he still is doing the visits, so his silent is no more.

well that sucks

 

[IA4irish]

Wait so we suck again?

 

[notredomer23]

I am going to reserve judgement until we get final word here, but can't imagine why he'd give up ND in favor of Duke, Stanford, or Washington.

 

[arrowryan]

Didn’t the staff use this strategy last year and kinda backfire on them in December?

But, I agree. Risking your spot at ND because you want to visit Duke, Stanford and Washington is dumb. Maybe I’m biased.

 

[NDFAN2008]

Didn’t the staff use this strategy last year and kinda backfire on them in December?

But, I agree. Risking your spot at ND because you want to visit Duke, Stanford and Washington is dumb. Maybe I’m biased.

Ehh I don't like the strategy at all but I can see why they are doing it perfect Example Peyton Bowen

 

[Reaper97]

I am going to reserve judgement until we get final word here, but can't imagine why he'd give up ND in favor of Duke, Stanford, or Washington.

He could still decide to cancel the visits.

 

[Ricochet]

If he's not Irish soon I think his spot is going to.get claimed by someone else.

 

[CanadalovesND]

If he's not Irish soon I think his spot is going to.get claimed by someone else.

Seems like you are right. Three more safeties coming in for visits this week and weekend.

Staff will not wait. He’s a good prospect and I’m sure an excellent fit given his academic standing and his feedback from interviews, but he is not a Peyton Bowen “take no matter what” type of player.

The staff is doing the right thing here.

 

[Luckylucci]

I like Mencke and I liked him early. But, I liked Mencke Jr. more as a guy that could provide some position flex. S/LB hybrid down the line. With Urlacher already in, I'd rather they focus on plus athletic profiles. I'd take both Ziglar and Miles along with Johnson.

Though, it doesn't seem like Miles is a part of the immediate conversation.

Also, I don't think Anthony Robinson is going to factor in much after II. Seems he's also in the hybrid category and I think we have plenty of options there.

Johnson, Ziglar, and Miles would be my 3. Take Andrews as a 4th as he doesn't factor into 2024 numbers.