Another Shooting

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Cackalacky2.0 said:
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I don't know if that's the horse you want to back in this race.

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Rockin’Irish said:
Just curious because I honestly don’t know……how do you know that he didn’t fact check the tweet before he sent it?
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Because they confirmed that the one lady who died protecting her child was a legal permanent resident. It would’ve taken someone in his staff all of a minute to check that she had a driver’s license and was here legally. And even if she was illegal, it’s still an insane way to craft that tweet.
 
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I’m seeing reporting that the family call 911 five times and kept getting hung up on.

Also the perp had been in jail and deported multiple times, was a felon and was still able to legally buy the gun that killed them. …..
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
I’m seeing reporting that the family call 911 five times and kept getting hung up on.

Also the perp had been in jail and deported multiple times, was a felon and was still able to legally buy the gun that killed them. …..
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You’re looking at fake news. Think about what you said.
 
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drayer54 said:
You’re looking at fake news. Think about what you said.
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Its not me saying that.... lol... jfc its what is out there. We will see... that is what I have seen. Not saying its true. lol. triggered again I see.
 
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Also seeing that cops were reportedly called to this site many times in the past and sometimes never showed up but when they did they didnt do anything to stop him from shooting his gun in the yard. Im guessing if they had asked they would have found out he was illegal those times and arrested him but nothing happened?


Authorities said they have previously been to the suspect's home, according to Capers.

"Deputies have come over and spoke with him about him shooting his gun in the yard," he said.
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Before anyone gets triggered this isnt me making stuff up its what is out there currently. So take it with a big grain of salt tbefore you start menstrating on fake news.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
Also seeing that cops were reportedly called to this site many times in the past and sometimes never showed up but when they did they didnt do anything to stop him from shooting his gun in the yard. Im guessing if they had asked they would have found out he was illegal those times and arrested him but nothing happened?




Before anyone gets triggered this isnt me making stuff up its what is out there currently. So take it with a big grain of salt tbefore you start menstrating on fake news.
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I’m sure more info will come out…..that’s pretty much how this always works. Apparently this dude had been deported a number of times. A couple of other things that could be at play on how this was handled prior to the shooting are the police have been trying to gain the trust of this sector of the community. This means they are not usually going to ask for immigration status, they want these folks to report crimes and not feel that they will be at risk of deportation. They may not be able to arrest someone for shooting their firearm unless there is solid proof (eyewitness reports may not be enough…..having them on video or seeing it firsthand would be). It could also be that the police force is understaffed and has difficulty prioritizing their actions. It could also be that they didn’t do their jobs correctly. Most likely, it’s a smattering of a lot of factors. However, it still comes down to a reportedly drunk man who was in the country illegally using a firearm to kill innocent people. He is the one to blame for his actions, IMO. I also understand that it is the police force‘s job to protect the community to the best of their ability.
 
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Rockin’Irish said:
I’m sure more info will come out…..that’s pretty much how this always works. Apparently this dude had been deported a number of times. A couple of other things that could be at play on how this was handled prior to the shooting are the police have been trying to gain the trust of this sector of the community. This means they are not usually going to ask for immigration status, they want these folks to report crimes and not feel that they will be at risk of deportation. They may not be able to arrest someone for shooting their firearm unless there is solid proof (eyewitness reports may not be enough…..having them on video or seeing it firsthand would be). It could also be that the police force is understaffed and has difficulty prioritizing their actions. It could also be that they didn’t do their jobs correctly. Most likely, it’s a smattering of a lot of factors. However, it still comes down to a reportedly drunk man who was in the country illegally using a firearm to kill innocent people. He is the one to blame for his actions, IMO. I also understand that it is the police force‘s job to protect the community to the best of their ability.
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I dont disagree at all. Lots of things happening here. It also sounds like lots of things can be improved on the processes used when complaints are called in.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
Also seeing that cops were reportedly called to this site many times in the past and sometimes never showed up but when they did they didnt do anything to stop him from shooting his gun in the yard. Im guessing if they had asked they would have found out he was illegal those times and arrested him but nothing happened?




Before anyone gets triggered this isnt me making stuff up its what is out there currently. So take it with a big grain of salt tbefore you start menstrating on fake news.
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If your telling us to take it with a grain of salt and it hasn't been confirmed or isn't being reported by multiple national outlets maybe you shouldn't post it so no one gets triggered.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
I dont disagree at all. Lots of things happening here. It also sounds like lots of things can be improved on the processes used when complaints are called in.
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In NM I owned a few businesses. There were many times my life was threatened and even had robberies and assaults on staff that the police never responded to. I would get a text and that is it. This is what happens when the demand of outweighs the supply for police. D9120B60-4532-4845-AB5A-B39FC1155C03.jpeg
 
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Blazers46 said:
In NM I owned a few businesses. There were many times my life was threatened and even had robberies and assaults on staff that the police never responded to. I would get a text and that is it. This is what happens when the demand of outweighs the supply for police.
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That must be an amazing experience for the minority population in your community not to have that burden. Am I doing this Social Justice thing right?
 
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Blazers46 said:
In NM I owned a few businesses. There were many times my life was threatened and even had robberies and assaults on staff that the police never responded to. I would get a text and that is it. This is what happens when the demand of outweighs the supply for police. View attachment 3053455
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It is unfortunate but just like a hospital it’s the highest priority call gets the help first. People get upset because they are having to them an emergency and in reality it’s not. It’s an issue that needs to be handled but not emergency status.

I am not sure about the reports because I haven’t read any but under no circumstances should a 911 dispatcher hang up on someone. This is what I do everyday and you might get cussed and want to tell them to pack sand but you can’t. Help them then hang up the phone then cuss them under your breath. These shows don’t give a real look into our jobs.

The police going out there could be no contact made, and numerous other things again I haven’t read up on it.
 
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irishff1014 said:
It is unfortunate but just like a hospital it’s the highest priority call gets the help first. People get upset because they are having to them an emergency and in reality it’s not. It’s an issue that needs to be handled but not emergency status.

I am not sure about the reports because I haven’t read any but under no circumstances should a 911 dispatcher hang up on someone. This is what I do everyday and you might get cussed and want to tell them to pack sand but you can’t. Help them then hang up the phone then cuss them under your breath. These shows don’t give a real look into our jobs.

The police going out there could be no contact made, and numerous other things again I haven’t read up on it.
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I would share this particular incident as it became a local news story but I would be completely doxing myself. A guy pretending to be from a drug cartel called and said men were coming to collect money and if we did not do what they say we would all be dead. Gave us time to comply to some random orders then started asking for money. We lived 30 minutes from Juarez Mexico so I took it pretty serious and all my staff left for the day. Police never came.

Another time I pulled a gun a shoplifter trying to steal about $2000 of golf clubs, Again police never came even with a gun being drawn.

If there things more serious, which is possible, I am glad we made the decision to close and move back to Indiana.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
I dont disagree at all. Lots of things happening here. It also sounds like lots of things can be improved on the processes used when complaints are called in.
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Just to update some more info I found……there are three deputies that serve the entire county (I don’t know if this is total or the number on duty at any one time). Apparently this is not a county with substantial financial resources which does make sense. I read that the reason for the slow response to the “guy shooting his gun in his yard” call was that the deputies were already working another criminal situation that was deemed a high priority (I believe it was an aggravated robbery or something similar). Now that Oropesa and others have been arrested, I’m sure more will come out. One thing I found interesting is that I perused several different news releases about the apprehensions but most them didn’t include the sherif’s information about the delay in responding to the 911 calls. Maybe they didn’t think it was important or maybe they didn’t want to change the narrative previously presented, only those outlets know for sure.
 
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Irish#1 said:
If your telling us to take it with a grain of salt and it hasn't been confirmed or isn't being reported by multiple national outlets maybe you shouldn't post it so no one gets triggered.
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Lol. It doesn’t matter y’all will get triggered anyway.
 
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it's astonishing how cack takes zero personal responsibility for posting blatantly biased information that often gets immediately debunked. and rather than learn from his mistakes, he continues to do so and then blames others getting triggered.
 
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Cackalacky2.0 said:
King of triggering apparently.
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Let’s be honest with ourselves. When people post anything on here (including myself) they follow a certain pattern and that pattern has to begin with being triggered enough to hit the reply button or triggered enough to post. Nobody is posting on here for general informative purposes.
 
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Blazers46 said:
Let’s be honest with ourselves. When people post anything on here (including myself) they follow a certain pattern and that pattern has to begin with being triggered enough to hit the reply button or triggered enough to post. Nobody is posting on here for general informative purposes.
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I post for general information purposes. 100% of the time. I literally have no agenda. Haha
 
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