I never cease to be amazed at the dishonesty in some of the descriptions of what happened or caused the conflict in some of these situations. "Cop threatens to pepper spray guy for going 60mph in a 55mph zone." No he didn't. He threatened to pepper spray the guy for refusing to comply with lawful instructions from the cop and step out of the car for a field sobriety test. The dude was going out of his way to be difficult and a smart ass. He was trying to provoke the officer.
"Some pig cop just body slammed him for taking a pill," as if he was just taking his 3pm blood pressure meds. He got jerked out of the vehicle for turning away from the cop and shoving something from his pocket into his mouth, which is virtually always an attempt to dispose of illegal drugs.
Stop with the dishonest, "Oh poor, poor innocent dude being harassed by the cops" nonsense. We're ALL against bad cops and want them weeded out of police forces and prosecuted when warranted, but when you intentionally misrepresent what happens in these situations, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
I’m glad there honest people out there still. Some try to use the final result and place it next to the original issue. It’s not that simple and any reasonable person understands that fact.
Yes shooting someone for waiting for his brother outside a school sounds terrible on the surface. Then it’s determined this subject got into the wrong vehicle, had a sort of discussion that would lead to a call to 911.
The subject decided where it goes from there in large part. “I don’t like cops” right off the bat indicates there may be some history that isn’t good with law enforcement. Then the subject (who later tested positive for meth btw) doesn’t provide much clarity with a rambling explanation
Next the officer questions presence of weapons. Subject offers he may have a knife (deadly weapon). Then when moving around the subject ingests something (a pill?). At this point the officer asks him what he put in his mouth. Then the subject reaches toward something, but away from the officer. I would hope the officer would obtain physical control to prevent getting to a weapon/etc. Also, the officer must protect the suspect from himself. Many times suspects ingest dangerous amounts of drugs in an attempt to evade arrest. Him trying to get whatever it was is his duty, whether you like it or not
Once the officer grabs the subject, can’t de-escalate at that point because the guy resists. The subject then decides the course of events generally from there. If he cooperates and is secured, everyone goes home (maybe jail). Nobody dies. Instead he clearly continues to resist and allegedly (I can’t tell easily) grabs the gun of the officer. This will get you killed almost every time.
The DA decided not to charge based on their investigation and reviewing facts of the incident. Hatred toward police doesn’t change that there was not evidence to support any charges.
Regarding the traffic stop, courts have held that a driver may be removed from a vehicle at a traffic stop. It is not an unreasonable search based on the constitution. There are many rules regarding searches that I don’t have the time to explain, but the officer can use force necessary to accomplish the driver stepping out of the vehicle. This guy is clearly trying to instigate based on the cropped clip posted. Many people would rather a temporary pain (OC spray) be used than going hands on and possibly hurting someone more permanently.
I suppose to many, the police are always wrong and it’s never ok to do their job. It’s not a pleasant job and there are many evil people out there who are preying on society and don’t just want to live a decent life. These people sometimes require force to be controlled or arrested. There are many rules governing these encounters and 99.9% of the time they are followed. I’m all for prosecution if they aren’t.
I look forward to the posting of “ few bad apples” from the select few here that aren’t fans of law enforcement. Those are exceptions and not the rule. There are so many examples I could cite, but it doesn’t matter because many of the minds here are made up and the name calling and insults will not stop.
