'20 CT QB Drew Pyne (ND->ASU->MO->BGSU Transfer)

[Crazy Balki]

Lmaooooo this is such brutality. I looked up up the two years thing and its true I'm dead. That must have been so awkward freshman year of high school. That is honestly a wild thing to do and I know more and more parents are doing it. A little scummy to be honest.

BUT dude he wasn't that bad. I feel like we can only really blame 1 loss on him out of the 10 games he started. The numbers all indicate he was like a middling P5 QB statistically...which is pretty good all things considered

The burden of high expectations.

ND should never be content with 8-4, and they shouldn't be content with middling talent at QB.

Under Kelly, there was just too much complacency. We bought into the "shop down a different aisle" nonsense and we're now dealing with the fallout.

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

The burden of high expectations.

ND should never be content with 8-4, and they shouldn't be content with middling talent at QB.

Under Kelly, there was just too much complacency. We bought into the "shop down a different aisle" nonsense and we're now dealing with the fallout.

Oh yeah absolutely not. re: the 8-4 thing. One of my mentors at ND was super connected to the program and used to be on staff in a role related to his job at ND. He told me "the Dome is happy with 9-3 seasons and nothing better because that keeps the bookstore money flowing every Saturday." Ever since I heard that I decided I would never be happy with a season worse than 10-2.

 

[Old Man Mike]

... never heard so much bonehead bullsh!t about something as simple as a guy wanting to play ball rather than sit.

 

[Irish2155]

I just hate it for him that he isn't getting his degree. All that work to not come away with it when you have to be extremely close is brutal

He’ll be close enough though to always come back and get it. I see his family certainly has the money. If he has 3 years of football left then he can go get that degree, then finish up at ND on his parent’s dime. Not too shabby

 

[ND03]

... never heard so much bonehead bullsh!t about something as simple as a guy wanting to play ball rather than sit.

Dollars to Donuts he ends up at group of 5 or worse. Don’t need to jump ship today to go play at Dartmouth. Fine to make that decision, but you lose the apologist excuse of being a ‘team’ guy or ‘all about ND’.

And bonehead bullish!t is 95% of the content on any message board

 

[CANONIZEFATHERSORIN]

... never heard so much bonehead bullsh!t about something as simple as a guy wanting to play ball rather than sit.

but do you think it was guaranteed he wouldn't be playing ball? If so that's wrong. But if it was just over competing for the job...how can you next expect that at Notre Dame?

 

[Free Manera]

I don’t blame Pyne for leaving at all. It is best for everyone. He would be competing for third string for ‘23.

 

[Junkhead]

It sucks for us for the bowl game, but what would Pyne have done without Mayer anyway? I wish him luck, and am curious to see where he ends up. From the little research I've done, Hudson Card, come on down....

 

[ulukinatme]

 

[ColinKSU]

BD had some background on the whole thing, and it sounds like it went down like how you probably guessed it did and like how all these locker room politics things go down.

 

[Junkhead]

I've been pro-Buchner, even though he hasn't shown too much yet. That said, there is no way I'd start him over Pyne in this bowl game, especially with Buchner coming off an injury. I wouldn't expect Pyne to come back and start next year, but he has done enough to at very least be the starting QB for the rest of the season. (1 bowl game, admittedly)

 

[dublinirish]

I find it hard to understand Pyne’s mindset tbh like he stays at ND and he will have bonds for life with all those dudes, he’d be such a popular guy on campus and a proper example of a ND man, loved by fans etc. is it worth throwing it all away for 3 years of playing in Tuesday nights in front of nobody for Akron or EMU


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[Junkhead]

I find it hard to understand Pyne’s mindset tbh like he stays at ND and he will have bonds for life with all those dudes, he’d be such a popular guy on campus and a proper example of a ND man, loved by fans etc. is it worth throwing it all away for 3 years of playing in Tuesday nights in front of nobody for Akron or EMU


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I can see why he would be butthurt if he was told TB would start the bowl game, but that hasn't been confirmed, so who knows.

 

[Irish#1]

This whole situation is super perplexing. I get it. We don’t need to pile on a 22 year old who did his best, but so much about it stands out. Also what else is an Internet message board for.

It really seems like his family couldn’t let go of the dream of their son being an athletic talent in the family tradition. He was a full 2 years older than his class in HS so he could stand out, and I’d be shocked if his ‘Stage Dad’ (H/T John Walters) wasn’t involved in making sure he got the ND offer.

He had times where he looked serviceable and times when he wouldn’t be QB1 for Sorin College. He is supposed to be an IVy League kid, it was his 3rd year in the program, and he still needed a Scan offense to move the ball, woof.

Several posters point out that he gave his all. I’m sure this is true. Others have said he was a team guy. I’m not sure I buy that he was so much of a leader on the team. Maybe, but in my experience the rich kid, try-hard isn’t typically a universally respected leader.

The fact that he blindsided the staff to leave early, suggests he really isn’t a team first guy, so all of the criticism seems a lot more warranted today than yesterday.

He’s young, rich and I wish him no ill will. But I am happy he’s gone because it was agonizing to watch him play.

There were never any reports of rich kid syndrome that I’m aware of.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

BD had some background on the whole thing, and it sounds like it went down like how you probably guessed it did and like how all these locker room politics things go down.

What the hell does that mean

 

[ColinKSU]

What the hell does that mean

It means pay them money if you want the specifics.

 

[ab2cmiller]

What the hell does that mean

It likely means that he saw Buchner go 0-2. Then gave every ounce of himself to try to help the team win. He probably thinks that his last game of 23-26 for over 300 yards should count for something. He's probably pissed that Buchner was going to get major run in the bowl game including possibly starting.

I have no doubt that Pyne knows he has absolutely zero chance of ever playing on Sunday's, but he's probably feeling disrespected and wants to go someplace where he is respected.

 

[Dale]

It likely means that he saw Buchner go 0-2. Then gave every ounce of himself to try to help the team win. He probably thinks that his last game of 23-26 for over 300 yards should count for something. He's probably pissed that Buchner was going to get major run in the bowl game including possibly starting.

I have no doubt that Pyne knows he has absolutely zero chance of ever playing on Sunday's, but he's probably feeling disrespected and wants to go someplace where he is respected.

He’s probably pissed the starting QB might play is incredibly lame. This isn’t a fairytale.

I’d guess Pops has been the backchannel and he’s been working on a destination for a while.

 

[Te'o4Heisman]

It means pay them money if you want the specifics.

I’ll pass, just kind of fuckin’ stupid to come here and post some vague, ambiguous nonsense That could mean a million different things. Either say it or dont.

 

[greyhammer90]

He’s probably pissed the starting QB might play is incredibly lame. This isn’t a fairytale.

I’d guess Pops has been the backchannel and he’s been working on a destination for a while.

I would agree. A lot of the storyboarding about Pyne seems like it's painting him as a child. He wanted to play and knew it wasn't happening after this year. He's making a business decision for himself the same as the coaches are by passing over him.

 

[Free Manera]

I would agree. A lot of the storyboarding about Pyne seems like it's painting him as a child. He wanted to play and knew it wasn't happening after this year. He's making a business decision for himself the same as the coaches are by passing over him.

Yeah this isn’t complicated. Stay and “compete” for the third string job or graduate and go play a couple years in the MAC or at UConn or something.

I figured everyone expected him to transfer before the fall. The surprise to me was just it happening before the bowl but that actually makes sense in light of all the portal movement already.

 

[IrishLax]

Yeah this isn’t complicated. Stay and “compete” for the third string job or graduate and go play a couple years in the MAC or at UConn or something.

I figured everyone expected him to transfer before the fall. The surprise to me was just it happening before the bowl but that actually makes sense in light of all the portal movement already.

Right, unless he already has his degree I’m shocked. I thought there was virtually no chance that he would transfer before end of next semester. Nowhere of note is going to want him and he has no NFL future. Honestly seems like he either made an emotional decisions or has no appreciation for his actual skill level.

 

[ThePiombino]

Dude just cut off his nose to spite his face for what? A shot at competing somewhere else WITHOUT his ND degree? Things only a privileged rich dude can do lol

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[dublinirish]

Right, unless he already has his degree I’m shocked. I thought there was virtually no chance that he would transfer before end of next semester. Nowhere of note is going to want him and he has no NFL future. Honestly seems like he either made an emotional decisions or has no appreciation for his actual skill level.

Tbh he’s always played like he had very little awareness of his physical shortcomings. I remember a quote from last week after his terrible interception throw ‘USC had Caleb Williams and ND has Pyne who thinks he’s Caleb Williams’


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[Crazy Balki]

I just hate it for him that he isn't getting his degree. All that work to not come away with it when you have to be extremely close is brutal

He was an EE, so I'm fairly certain he's going to have his degree when he leaves.

 

[GoIrish41]

Kid had guts. Good luck to him. Hope he lands a gig.

 

[ColinKSU]

I’ll pass, just kind of fuckin’ stupid to come here and post some vague, ambiguous nonsense That could mean a million different things. Either say it or dont.

But then I couldn’t specifically annoy you. If you can’t infer literally the most obvious possible way this could have unfolded imaginable, then I’m not sure what to say.

 

[NDRock]

This is just par for the course at the qb position. Kids move high schools so they can play. The amount of time, effort, and money that these families put in is enormous.

Pyne always seemed a little delusional to me in a good way. His irrational confidence actually helped him on the field. Good luck to him in the future.

 

[Chicago Domer]

Sounds odd, but there may be some better NIL money if he goes somewhere where they really value him.

Another thought: Do we believe Drew would not have gotten better in his second year as a starter? The way many of us talk about the guy that s that we don’t think he’s capable of improvement and that the Pyne we will see next year is the same or worse(because of Mayer’s exit). I’m not sure I agree with that sentiment, but we will see. Good luck Drew!!!

 

[MacIrish75]

Sounds odd, but there may be some better NIL money if he goes somewhere where they really value him.

Another thought: Do we believe Drew would not have gotten better in his second year as a starter? The way many of us talk about the guy that s that we don’t think he’s capable of improvement and that the Pyne we will see next year is the same or worse(because of Mayer’s exit). I’m not sure I agree with that sentiment, but we will see. Good luck Drew!!!

Unless he’s capable of changing his physical attributes, we saw his ceiling this year.