'20 CT QB Drew Pyne (ND->ASU->MO->BGSU Transfer)

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Pyne is objectively a bad quarterback. But it’s not his fault. He has no business starting at a power 5 school. He is physically not a power 5 player. He wants to win and he cares so I have no real complaints about him. He is an FCS quarterback, at best and it’s NDs fault that he is the best they have.
 

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Look at the play call though. Not one of those receivers is doing a quick slant or going to the flat. It looks like madden 4 Verts. Further on the throw, you see at least 2 other receivers 30 yards down field. Meaning there essentially is no check down. It’s “everyone go deep, try to get open” backyard football bs calls.
When Kizer had Fuller out wide with single coverage he’d tap his helmet pre snap to audible, get the ball and let it rip just as LAX described. ND scored a ton of TD’s that way.
 

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Yes Drew is a terrible QB all around and he is being taught by another terrible QB but Tommy seemed like a smart QB. Threw a lot or balls away and rarely took a sack and believe it or not despite his weak arm is was stronger than baby Drew’s. Knew we were F’d from watching the blue gold game. He hasn’t gotten any better since then. He isn’t what he is. Pretty cocky kid for being as shitty a QB that he is. Tommy didn’t make nearly enough adjustments in the second half........again. Second halves like that show the difference since Kelly left. We can blame Rees (and we should) but Marcus needs to be a Head coach and not sit there looking hopeless again. He should have been throwing some people under the bus after that second half. Lenzy stock is up and he has a few games left to up his stock. Any chance he comes back for another year with a chance of playing for a decent QB and OC?
 

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The post-game presscon by Drew after the game (the one at the bottom of IEs front page) was oddly interesting.
Most of it was useless blah-speak as we would expect. But he was asked about the second half of course, and
in between the Blah said, they played a lot of zero coverage, where we had 9 men protecting but they rushed ten.
Weird. Just not a true statement. He can't believe what he said. If he had used most of those words and said 6 (for
us) instead of 9, and 8 for them instead of 10, OK. But why would he say something patently absurd like what he did ---
maybe they did that once, who knows? Certainly not their typical second half defense.

But he also said something useful. In the first half he said that Navy played our third and longs with just a three man
(eight drop) theory and we burned them (with him with rocking chair time --- he didn't say that part.) He was saying, and I agree, that Navy realized at halftime that they couldn't defend our receivers for any amount of time, and dramatically altered their defensive pass rush theory. The details that I'm writing here are my simple deductions, not anything he'd dare to say with any frankness. The deductions are, I believe though, based on solid seeable facts, and not fanciful.

Our problem is that WE didn't adjust to their change. (our line, again, DID ITS JOB in both "philosophies."It was insufficiency of supporting personnel involvement which screwed things up. This could be viewed as another instance of poor second half adjustments --- having very little to do with the players themselves --- even Drew.
 

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If the staff brings in a transfer, I wish Pyne luck at UConn next year.

I think Pyne sticks around to finish his degree. He didn't enroll early, so he's probably not going to graduate until Dec 2023, or June 2024.
 

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The kid is gamer, just not a good one. I hope he hangs around and graduates.

I think Pyne sticks around to finish his degree. He didn't enroll early, so he's probably not going to graduate until Dec 2023, or June 2024.

Someone has to go. Too many QBs on scholarship.

Unless they "pull" RPIII's scholly, I just can't see Pyne hanging around.
 

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Someone has to go. Too many QBs on scholarship.

I don't think the coach is going to force anyone out of their scholarship. Freeman, like Kelly, preaches the degree. However, you could see an exodus after the 2023 season. And like I said, why waste all the effort to not graduate with your degree from the University of Notre Dame. Pyne, Buchner, and Powlus all have three years of eligibility left. Even after next season, they all potentially two years to play somewhere else.

I think Rees and Freeman will take six scholarship QBs on the roster for one year to determine the direction of the program for the following year or two.
 

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The problem with Pyne is there are things he can do to make the game easier for himself and he's not doing them. While physically limited he's not physically limited from getting the ball out earlier or working his feet more in the pocket to put himself in better position to throw the ball. When Pyne is active with his feet and plays with anticipation he's a solid QB against a majority of collegiate defenses. Because most collegiate defenses are not very good.
 

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I don't think the coach is going to force anyone out of their scholarship. Freeman, like Kelly, preaches the degree. However, you could see an exodus after the 2023 season. And like I said, why waste all the effort to not graduate with your degree from the University of Notre Dame. Pyne, Buchner, and Powlus all have three years of eligibility left. Even after next season, they all potentially two years to play somewhere else.

I think Rees and Freeman will take six scholarship QBs on the roster for one year to determine the direction of the program for the following year or two.
This. Now, I don't think 6 QB's will last that long even if it's their choosing but add the QB's between now and next Fall Camp and figure it out over time.
 

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I don't think the coach is going to force anyone out of their scholarship. Freeman, like Kelly, preaches the degree. However, you could see an exodus after the 2023 season. And like I said, why waste all the effort to not graduate with your degree from the University of Notre Dame. Pyne, Buchner, and Powlus all have three years of eligibility left. Even after next season, they all potentially two years to play somewhere else.

I think Rees and Freeman will take six scholarship QBs on the roster for one year to determine the direction of the program for the following year or two.
Undergrad players are going to get their scholly pulled this offseason. The math isn't there to keep everyone.
 

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Undergrad players are going to get their scholly pulled this offseason. The math isn't there to keep everyone.

I can only see that if the player(s) themself is clearly disinterested from the team or competing, or really isn't giving a shit. Knowing the personalities of the QBs we have, I don't believe that this will be the case.
 

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Undergrad players are going to get their scholly pulled this offseason. The math isn't there to keep everyone.
There are always scholarships. There will be transfers (out of the defensive backfield, for instance, maybe an RB or an OL). And if there aren't enough, I guess you give Big Ron a tuition-sized raise for RPIII. They're not pulling scholarships. They're certainly not pulling Pyne's.
 

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Shout out to Pyne for doing a social media post congratulating my alma mater, New Prairie High School Cougars, on their trip to state this weekend. New Prairie is about 20 minutes west of Notre Dame. 4A matchup versus East Central.

NP grad and former QB, Chase Ketterer, is a current walk on for the Irish. Does a lot of scout team work and occasionally gets in on special teams.

Go Irish and Go Cougars!
 

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Someone has to go. Too many QBs on scholarship.

Unless they "pull" RPIII's scholly, I just can't see Pyne hanging around.

Pull that scholarship yesterday. Looks like his dad has been collecting a paycheck from ND for a couple decades now. Should have enough saved up
 

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Great take from a domer. Did I say great? I meant, wack as shit.

I mean do you remember when bon jovi's kid was randomly on the team? ND does stuff like that way too much. If we want to compete for national championships we can't just be putting random white boys on the team because their dad is a Big Deal. The Dome can slobber rich parents all it wants but it shouldn't extend to us giving out roster spots to kids because their dad knows the right people.
 

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Yes, I remember, but it’s your flippancy about a starter and leader on our team that’s the issue, not a “random white boy” we’re giving a roster spot. Have a little more respect. I don’t know anything about Pyne’s father’s relation to the University, but he’s earned his scholarship.

I'm talking about Powlus lmao
 

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I mean do you remember when bon jovi's kid was randomly on the team? ND does stuff like that way too much. If we want to compete for national championships we can't just be putting random white boys on the team because their dad is a Big Deal. The Dome can slobber rich parents all it wants but it shouldn't extend to us giving out roster spots to kids because their dad knows the right people.
Bon Jovi’s kid was a walk on. Seemed to be a good team mate and pretty good football player at that level. How does bringing positive attention to the program hurt playoff chances for a walk on player?
 

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All true, and yet, we all know by watching the games that stats tell a different story than what we see with our own two eyes. Still, gut tells me he’s going to get on the field for one game next year for some reason.

All that said, good for him for living a dream and the helping the team.
 

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If you had a pretty good running game and a coaching staff that had so little faith in you that they threw out half the playbook... that stat can happen.

Still, you gotta hand it to Pyne for not imploding from the weight of being a bad QB, and for making the most of it.

People don't want to hear it, but I think I give Rees one of those "imagine what he can do with a stud QB" scores for the season.
 

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He'll be underappreciated just like his coach was. Physically limited but tough as hell and gives everything he has for the team. Unfortunately he's far from the guy ND needs to be a championship contender and the fans want/expect more.
 

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He'll be underappreciated just like his coach was. Physically limited but tough as hell and gives everything he has for the team. Unfortunately he's far from the guy ND needs to be a championship contender and the fans want/expect more.
Part of the frustration is not having that championship caliber difference maker at QB for a long time. (Clausen? Quinn?)

With Pyne, it’s more of the same which we know isn’t enough.
 

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Part of the frustration is not having that championship caliber difference maker at QB for a long time. (Clausen? Quinn?)

With Pyne, it’s more of the same which we know isn’t enough.
I would contend Pyne was less of the same. With Book or Coan we’d have at least two more wins.

Which is not Pyne’s fault. He did everything he could to help this team win. But…
 
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