Tommy Rees - Offensive Coordinator

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What makes you think Hartline is interested in ND? I’m just curious why he would leave such a stable situation?
I'm not saying ND should pursue Hartline as OC (co-OC/Passing Game Coordinator paired with, say, a veteran former-OC, recently fired head coach looking for a short-term spring board to another HC gig maybe), but... Hartline taking a promotion to work with a close friend/former teammate? That hard to understand?

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I'm not saying ND should pursue Hartline as OC (co-OC/Passing Game Coordinator paired with, say, a veteran former-OC, recently fired head coach looking for a short-term spring board to another HC gig maybe), but... Hartline taking a promotion to work with a close friend/former teammate? That hard to understand?

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We could do something like Florida where there is both a coordinator and an associate/assistant head coach for each side of the ball. That could be appealing to Hartline if he wants to be a head coach. He can avoid worrying about being good at play design and play calling and instead worry about more of the things he would actually be doing as a head coach.
 

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As tempting as Hartline's recruiting prowess is, that would not be the right move in my opinion. ND is recruiting just fine now. ND needs a guy that puts up points everywhere he goes and a guy that can evaluate, recruit, and develop quarterbacks. Whether it is one guy filling both of those or the need for two guys, I suppose that depends on the hire.

But as we have all discussed ad nauseum, there are lots of teams that make scoring look easy, without overcomplicated offensive schemes. Just get a dude with a proven track record and start scoring some freaking points.
 

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I think we might be setting ourselves up for some serious disappointment for a couple reasons:
  • The chances Tommy actually isn't OC next year are at best 50%?
  • If Tommy isn't, I'd be surprised if we didn't see an internal hire of Gerard Parker and Deland McCollough as Co-OCs given each of their past experience/future goals and why they chose to join ND
If bullet 2 takes place, can only imagine the outrage that is going to take place. But if they get a homerun as QB coach, I don't hate it.
 

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We could do something like Florida where there is both a coordinator and an associate/assistant head coach for each side of the ball. That could be appealing to Hartline if he wants to be a head coach. He can avoid worrying about being good at play design and play calling and instead worry about more of the things he would actually be doing as a head coach.
Why would anyone trust Hartline, a guy that has never been an OC? Haven't we learned enough this year from these never been a coach in that position before mistakes? I suppose if Longo and Riley turned us down, but I would go hard after those 2 first.

Keeping Rees would be Armageddon. Parker or McCullough would be the apocalypse.
 

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I don’t think Freeman/Jack have the balls to get rid of Rees. So I would say it’s less than 15%.

The only way I see him leaving is if he goes somewhere else. And with his production you only hear the rams other than Kelly. And that’s probably less than 50%.

So the likely choice is in 3 years when Freeman didn’t make any changes and he is fired the whole staff is probably gone.
 

Ray “The Mule” Finkle

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All these kids on South Florida Express 7-7 aren’t suddenly going to come to ND because Hartline is here.

People are overselling Hartline’s recruiting ability with regards to being in place as the ND OC.
But the name "Riley" would. He's also proven to be one of the best OC's in the country at 2 different programs. The name "Longo" isn't hard on the ears either.
 

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I don’t think Freeman/Jack have the balls to get rid of Rees. So I would say it’s less than 15%.

The only way I see him leaving is if he goes somewhere else. And with his production you only hear the rams other than Kelly. And that’s probably less than 50%.

So the likely choice is in 3 years when Freeman didn’t make any changes and he is fired the whole staff is probably gone.

I agree with this. I think even 15% is high. Idk if I would put it at 5% he gets fired. Far more likely he leaves on his own.
 

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I don't think there is any way Rees is fired barring a total collapse down the stretch. I could see a "mutual" parting though where Rees lands in the NFL as a QB coach or something like that.
 

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I don't think there is any way Rees is fired barring a total collapse down the stretch. I could see a "mutual" parting though where Rees lands in the NFL as a QB coach or something like that.
If Freeman hires Parker or McCullough, we may end up wanting Rees back. If Freeman wants to save his career, he will go external with experience. I'm not sure if he's the pushover please my kids type or not yet. We will see. His decision at OC will determine his future.

I also like Riley (if he's successful) as a potential interim if Freeman gets canned.
 

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If Freeman hires Parker or McCullough, we may end up wanting Rees back. If Freeman wants to save his career, he will go external with experience. I'm not sure if he's the pushover please my kids type or not yet. We will see. His decision at OC will determine his future.

I also like Riley (if he's successful) as a potential interim if Freeman gets canned.

Holy Cow, are you one of those SEER's ?
 

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I'm not saying ND should pursue Hartline as OC (co-OC/Passing Game Coordinator paired with, say, a veteran former-OC, recently fired head coach looking for a short-term spring board to another HC gig maybe), but... Hartline taking a promotion to work with a close friend/former teammate? That hard to understand?

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No need to be a Massengill. Can we not have a discussion?
 

Ray “The Mule” Finkle

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Holy Cow, are you one of those SEER's ?
I will admit, it would be insane if Garrett Riley were even available after this season. How does someone not make an undefeated TCU OC that puts up as many points per game and has done it from the minute he became an OC a head coach. He's likely up for a head job very soon.
 

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Don’t forget if TR goes, not only will MF need a new OC, he’ll need a new QB coach.
 

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I will be surprised if Tommy Rees is coaching at ND by the time they kickoff in Dublin in 2023. He will be in The League, by his own accord.
Yep. This.

Those who want to see Rees officially "fired" and frogmarched down Notre Dame Avenue are going to be disappointed. Those who want to forever blame Swarbrick for "not having the balls to fire him" will also be disappointed. He'll just slide over to a job as an OC or QB coach in the NFL, a job that frankly better suits his skills.

He's been on our staff for six years, OC for three. That's a long time for any assistant, and only one Notre Dame OC since the '80s has held the job more than three years (Weis' OC, which, whatever). He stuck last year I'd guess out of some loyalty to the program and players but at some point it's just better for to move on. I suspect all involved will agree this offseason is the time.
 

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Yep. This.

Those who want to see Rees officially "fired" and frogmarched down Notre Dame Avenue are going to be disappointed. Those who want to forever blame Swarbrick for "not having the balls to fire him" will also be disappointed. He'll just slide over to a job as an OC or QB coach in the NFL, a job that frankly better suits his skills.

He's been on our staff for six years, OC for three. That's a long time for any assistant, and only one Notre Dame OC since the '80s has held the job more than three years (Weis' OC, which, whatever). He stuck last year I'd guess out of some loyalty to the program and players but at some point it's just better for to move on. I suspect all involved will agree this offseason is the time.
The Rams could fire McVay and replace him with Tommy for all I care, as long as he isn’t calling plays at ND next season. It’d be a win for everyone (but Sean McVay).
 

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Oh I would love Riley from TCU. That is a fun offense that can score. I would wonder if the Big 12 offenses can translate to Notre Dame football.
 

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Yep. This.

Those who want to see Rees officially "fired" and frogmarched down Notre Dame Avenue are going to be disappointed. Those who want to forever blame Swarbrick for "not having the balls to fire him" will also be disappointed. He'll just slide over to a job as an OC or QB coach in the NFL, a job that frankly better suits his skills.

He's been on our staff for six years, OC for three. That's a long time for any assistant, and only one Notre Dame OC since the '80s has held the job more than three years (Weis' OC, which, whatever). He stuck last year I'd guess out of some loyalty to the program and players but at some point it's just better for to move on. I suspect all involved will agree this offseason is the time.
It’s a move he has to make for his own career trajectory. Makes total sense.

Makes me wonder if there’s an offensive version of Al Golden that we haven’t thought about yet.
 

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Respectfully, I feel like we don't need the offensive version of Al Golden. I feel we need a non NFL, college OC. The opposite of Rees in terms of over thinking. Does Rees have a girlfriend? If not, he needs to leave South Bend. LA is a good spot for him, unless he prefers the cougars at the Linebacker.
 
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