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[Irishdrunk]

Wisky needs Jack Coan back….

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Lance Leipold

Leipold might be a better overall HC but I think Aranda meshes better with the program as a whole.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Why would Aranda leave Baylor for Wisconsin? Wisconsin could very well go the way of Nebraska.

With the changing media rights landscape the Big 10 is surely more attractive than the Big 12.

 

[Dale]

Why would Aranda leave Baylor for Wisconsin? Wisconsin could very well go the way of Nebraska.

Coached at Wisconsin. Wisconsin, B1G money could be significantly more than Baylor, new Big 12 money if they wanted to. Aranda is a weird cat anyways.


FWIW I don’t think he would, but it’d at least pitch it if Wisconsin has boosters that are serious

 

[Irishdrunk]

Do mid season firings make sense??? How good is their recruiting class? Is it about morale for the Program?

 

[Dale]

The flip side, if I was a candidate, I’d be asking why Wisconsin believes their ceiling is above these last two coaches, and what they are doing to help…

Regardless, it’ll be Leonhard if I had to guess

 

[tko]

With the changing media rights landscape the Big 10 is surely more attractive than the Big 12.

Good point.

 

[tko]

Coached at Wisconsin. Wisconsin, B1G money could be significantly more than Baylor, new Big 12 money if they wanted to. Aranda is a weird cat anyways.


FWIW I don’t think he would, but it’d at least pitch it if Wisconsin has boosters that are serious

Thanks for the refresher. I forgot he coached there.

 

[Irish du Nord]

I think Leonhard would potentially be a mistake. Defensive recruiting has not been good. He’d have to really sell a plan for the offense moving forward to convince me to give him the job. Wisconsin has 4 total 4 star guys on defense on the entire roster. Leonhard is a good DC. But he’s not Jesus. He can’t just turn diamonds in the rough into dominating 3 year starters indefinitely. The defense is not elite this year. I’m not too sure how good it even really is. Schedule gonna get tougher in the future of the B1G. Potentially no B1G West division to trumpet. Wisconsin has a tough question on what their true ceiling and floor is.

Their whole program has always recruited pretty poorly compared to their on field product. Lots of high ceiling three stars in those Wisconsin fields

 

[Dale]

Their whole program has always recruited pretty poorly compared to their on field product. Lots of high ceiling three stars in those Wisconsin fields

In general yes, but it simply has to be better than it has been, especially if you think you’re above being a 9 win team. There are 10 blue chip offensive recruits on this roster. 5 from Wisconsin yes but 5 from out of state. Leonhard should have been able to parlay his results on the field, onto the trail better. You can’t get more than 4 blue chip recruits fielding a Top 3 defense annually? JJ and TJ Watt are two of the most visible stars in the NFL. That’s an effort question in recruiting at some point.

 

[irishff1014]

I wonder if O’Brien has any interest. He would probably do ok there.

 

[StPaul_Irish]

Yes indeed, we might have dodged a bullet 😆

That and speaks to his eye for talent maybe?

 

[zelezo vlk]

Wow. I am shocked that Sconny is moving on so quickly.


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[Rockin’Irish]

I wonder if O’Brien has any internet. He would probably do ok there.

I hope he does have the internet, we are in the 21st century 😆

 

[Irishdrunk]

QUESTION - Which is better program- Wisky or Iowa or Purdue???

 

[irishff1014]

I hope he does have the internet, we are in the 21st century 😆

Good one. I like it lol.

 

[stlnd01]

QUESTION - Which is better program- Wisky or Iowa or Purdue???

Wisky
Iowa
Purdue.

In that order. Ferentz has been able to build a consistent winner at Iowa but Wisconsin has a larger state all to itself (no Iowa State), proximity to Chicago and probably a more broadly-recognized brand. (Lots of people from the East Coast go to Wisconsin for school. No one goes to Iowa.)

Purdue just sucks.

 

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[IRISHDODGER]

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Colorado should hire Chryst.

 

[irishff1014]

Colorado should hire Chryst.

Solid hire but Colorado needs to sip on reality a bit. 7-5 or 8-4 is probably the best they can be.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Solid hire but Colorado needs to sip on reality a bit. 7-5 or 8-4 is probably the best they can be.

Hiring Dorrell is proably proof they've had some sips already. It's likely a destination job for a guy like Chryst. For younger guys it is probably a stepping stone job. They could also look at Harsin.

Consistently going to bowl games for them would be fine.

Yet another team that moved to a conference and ultimately was never heard from again outside of a blip on the radar or two, if that.

 

[IrishLion]

Do mid season firings make sense??? How good is their recruiting class? Is it about morale for the Program?

I don't think anyone can afford to wait anymore if they think it's time to make a change. The new early signing period makes it impossible for a new coach to salvage a class if he's not essentially in place before the regular season is over.

Plus, if you think your interim might be the answer, he gets a longer audition for you to figure it out while you organize the search committee.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Bielema stepped on Bucky Badger's nuts. Hard. In Madison.

On the back of getting rolled by Ohio State, also at home, they're pulling the plug.

It stopped being about education a long time ago, but now it's becoming more evident with these early firings that it is a "what have you done for me lately" business. These schools have millions to throw around to get rid of coaches and hire new ones. It's nothing to them.

Too much to compete with. If you start to get mediocre to bad, you don't have time to turn it around. Fans lose interest. They can watch Netflix, Hulu, whatever rather than buy tickets or tune in. So you an a coach who is 67-26 with a 7-2 bowl record, two wins of which were NY6 games.

Not saying I like it, but I understand.

 

[irishff1014]

Hiring Dorrell is proably proof they've had some sips already. It's likely a destination job for a guy like Chryst. For younger guys it is probably a stepping stone job. They could also look at Harsin.

Consistently going to bowl games for them would be fine.

Yet another team that moved to a conference and ultimately was never heard from again outside of a blip on the radar or two, if that.

Harsin might be a good hire as well. He has some connections out there. A lot less expectations, and he can take his girlfriend skiing lol.

 

[drayer54]

College coaching is nuts. People are waaaaay too quick to pull the plug. Unless you're a top program, you should follow the Iowa model.

 

[irishff1014]

College coaching is nuts. People are waaaaay too quick to pull the plug. Unless you're a top program, you should follow the Iowa model.

Iowa is realistic though. They know they will have some above average seasons, they will have some OK seasons and they will have some bad seasons. They understand that from the beginning. These other schools get delusional and think they are more than what they are and shoot themselves in the foot by pulling the trigger to fast.

Unfortunately though the coaches have done this to their selves In someways. They have two good seasons and a bigger job opens up they jump without hesitation for more money only to realize most of the times they weren’t ready for the spotlight jobs.

 

[Dale]

College coaching is nuts. People are waaaaay too quick to pull the plug. Unless you're a top program, you should follow the Iowa model.

Keep in kind McIntosh did not hire Chryst. The identity of Wisconsin under Bielema and Chryst is Alvarez’ footprint.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

I look at Frank Beamer as a great example of someone who would not have made it in today's coaching market.

He didn't turn things around until going 9-3 in 1993. YEAR SEVEN. From that point on, he never missed a bowl game. He had three 7-6 records at the end of his tenure, but they were a bowl season mainstay from 1993-2015 under his watch. 2004-2011 he had consecutive double digit win seasons.

 

[drayer54]

Iowa is realistic though. They know they will have some above average seasons, they will have some OK seasons and they will have some bad seasons. They understand that from the beginning. These other schools get delusional and think they are more than what they are and shoot themselves in the foot by pulling the trigger to fast.

Unfortunately though the coaches have done this to their selves In someways. They have two good seasons and a bigger job opens up they jump without hesitation for more money only to realize most of the times they weren’t ready for the spotlight jobs.

That's why I maintain the two best jobs in college football are in Ames and Iowa City.