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To be fair, he's been in pole position for his first CL since Messi since 2018ish. However, sign me up.
I hear your sentiment but I’d disagree… there was always a clear challenger or two in the pack.

Look at all the perennial powers at the moment and then look at City. I think the bookmakers have City at some wildly low odds to win now, +200/250 or so.
 

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Pep seems like a terrible fit with the US. National coaches don’t get near the same time with the team as club coaches. Maybe he would adapt but he’s such a perfectionist that he’d probably lose his mind. Or he’d be great.
Fair enough and agree to disagree. But we can both agree that Gregg’s system ain’t it.
 

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Pep seems like a terrible fit with the US. National coaches don’t get near the same time with the team as club coaches. Maybe he would adapt but he’s such a perfectionist that he’d probably lose his mind. Or he’d be great.
Fair enough and agree to disagree. But we can both agree that Gregg’s system ain’t it.
As a City fan I think I can fairly say I know Pep pretty well (Fun fact: He has managed more games at City then at either Barca or Bayern)
He would not do well managing U.S.A. between 2023-2026
Between when the World Cup ends in December 2022 and June 2026 the U.S.A. is going to play no meaningful matches (except for the Gold Cup)
That is not what he wants as an Int"l manager in my opinion.
He would want to manage a top European or possible South American Int"l side that competes in high stakes continental tournaments and continental qualifying matches over the next four years before an eventual World Cup in "26
Just my two cents
 

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Thinking about the USMNT...the only way I see them getting through the group stage is scoring a few goals on set pieces. There is neither the creativity nor the high level talent in the system to score against this competition in open play. So the question to Berhalter is why the hell won't you bring a big bodied striker like Pefok if that is your best chance to score?
 

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Guardiola coaching Americans would be a triggering trauma he'd never recover from. I think he'd probably have a stroke on live TV right on the touchline in front of the world.

The concept of Roberto Martinez is interesting.

I can see England and Wales getting through now more than ever.
 

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Guardiola coaching Americans would be a triggering trauma he'd never recover from. I think he'd probably have a stroke on live TV right on the touchline in front of the world.

The concept of Roberto Martinez is interesting.

I can see England and Wales getting through now more than ever.
He is one the best cup managers in the world.
To win an F.A. Cup with Wigan Athletic is stuff of legends.
He also took Everton to both the Semi's of the League Cup and F.A. Cup in his final season in charge

I would be ecstatic if he were to choose to manage U.S.A. after leading Belgium to three straight years of being the FIFA ranked number 1 team in the world.
It's the type of hire that U.S.A. soccer never pulls off though, so I'm not going to hold my breath.
 

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He is one the best cup managers in the world.
To win an F.A. Cup with Wigan Athletic is stuff of legends.
He also took Everton to both the Semi's of the League Cup and F.A. Cup in his final season in charge

I would be ecstatic if he were to choose to manage U.S.A. after leading Belgium to three straight years of being the FIFA ranked number 1 team in the world.
It's the type of hire that U.S.A. soccer never pulls off though, so I'm not going to hold my breath.
Would he even be interested is the first question.
 

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Would he even be interested is the first question.
Tough to say.
He has worked for American television networks, so that can’t hurt our chances.

If he performs well with Belgium in this World Cup he will have his choice of jobs both club and international level, so the likelihood is no he wouldn’t be.
 

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Tough to say.
He has worked for American television networks, so that can’t hurt our chances.

If he performs well with Belgium in this World Cup he will have his choice of jobs both club and international level, so the likelihood is no he wouldn’t be.
This is Belgium's Golden Age and the best they've done is a third place finish.

Winning is hard.
 

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This is Belgium's Golden Age and the best they've done is a third place finish.

Winning is hard.
Yep. He needs at least to make the final in this World Cup for his tenure to not be looked at as a failure with this group of players.
I would push back and say he lost in the 18 semis to the eventual champions France, and also lost to Italy the eventual champions in Euro 2020.

He will be a highly sought after manager once his Belgium tenure is over.
 

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Liverpool needs to revamp, hard to watch this season. TAA has been atrocious.
 
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I have said for several years on IE that Alexander-Arnold was such a liability on defense that even his unquestionable skill passing made him (for me) a coin-flip as to +/-. He is not only terrible facing an attacker, but in my opinion worse on the backside of plays --- taking horrible protecting position on the backside, even on set pieces. Southgate then gave me reason to believe that this was not a crazy take when he remarked (generically but obviously aimed at him) that in his view (Southgate's) soccer was still a game played on both ends of the field.

More interesting to me was the discussion recently by the Two Robbies as to what was wrong with Liverpool. Robbie Mustoe who is usually quite insightful, struggled to put his finger on it (or maybe didn't want to make critiques too personal), but Robbie Earle hit it on the head when he said that the intensity of this team wasn't anywhere near the previous years and it was all over the field --- top press, midfield dragon-energy attack, and therefore a more pressured back end exposing its inherent weaknesses (TAA generally plus VVD not playing well.)

The summary came down to a brief Mane replacement difference in intensity (the new guy was credited for "trying hard" --- damning with faint praise) and Milner not able to help anymore, with Henderson and Thiago not able to generate the Wild Hunt energy. Failed energy at the point, and in the midfield, and weakness by TAA at the back, means lots of opponent goals.

Mustoe refused to buy that the Klopp style of play may have just worn these guys down (physically AND mentally), but Earle thought that this was possible. I think that without Mane, and with another year of age on Henderson, this is exactly what has happened, and the lack of the terrorizing of the uber-press has tilted the TAA equation into the negative. Both Robbies immediately said that Liverpool was out of title contention even this early, and that Top 4 was doubtful. They noted that in this situation Salah wasn't very good either. (I.E. the service gained by Wild Hunt turnovers wasn't there.)
 

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Erling Haaland is now tied with the likes of Jamie Vardy, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Frank Lampard with 3 PL hat tricks. He’s played 8 games. Ridiculous.
 

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Buddy of mine has been trying to explain this to me (and others) for years.

I'll say one thing when it comes to England: certain guys get away with having bad moments and certain ones don't with their media and pundits. I've seen enough international matches in the last few years where Kyle Walker has done things that other guys would be absolutely roasted for. Harry Kane gets to be clever while foreign players are divers.

I suppose it is the same in North American sports, but the lack of objectivity doesn't make it right.
 

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Erling Haaland is now tied with the likes of Jamie Vardy, Cristiano Ronaldo, and Frank Lampard with 3 PL hat tricks. He’s played 8 games. Ridiculous.
He's going to break every record. Unplayable.

Could be very boring times in England for a very long time if someone doesn't assume the Liverpool role of being the pusher to City. I don't think Arsenal can hang with City. Not this year anyway.
 

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Buddy of mine has been trying to explain this to me (and others) for years.

I'll say one thing when it comes to England: certain guys get away with having bad moments and certain ones don't with their media and pundits. I've seen enough international matches in the last few years where Kyle Walker has done things that other guys would be absolutely roasted for. Harry Kane gets to be clever while foreign players are divers.

I suppose it is the same in North American sports, but the lack of objectivity doesn't make it right.


Love hearing the tactical side from managers. As someone who never played, it's enlightening and refreshing to learn these little tidbits, and I can see exactly what he is saying.

With Kane he got away with another dirty move that went unnoticed this weekend. Shoved Gabriel to the ground (called a foul, good) then blatantly kicked him in the ribs while down. Ref and announcers never saw it. Wow, weird.
 

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Love hearing the tactical side from managers. As someone who never played, it's enlightening and refreshing to learn these little tidbits, and I can see exactly what he is saying.
National teams and club teams often don't play the same. Plenty of guys past and present shine for their clubs but not for their national team.
That was part of what I took from it anyway.
 

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So many people knew about who and what Rory Dames is for DECADES and did nothing. He's a complete scumbag.
 

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As a City fan I think I can fairly say I know Pep pretty well (Fun fact: He has managed more games at City then at either Barca or Bayern)
He would not do well managing U.S.A. between 2023-2026
Between when the World Cup ends in December 2022 and June 2026 the U.S.A. is going to play no meaningful matches (except for the Gold Cup)
That is not what he wants as an Int"l manager in my opinion.
He would want to manage a top European or possible South American Int"l side that competes in high stakes continental tournaments and continental qualifying matches over the next four years before an eventual World Cup in "26
Just my two cents
Respect your knowledge of Pep, but willing to die on this hill.

But it’s moot, ain’t gonna happen.
 

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Respect your knowledge of Pep, but willing to die on this hill.

But it’s moot, ain’t gonna happen.
He did spend his one year sabbatical from managing living in NYC.
He is no stranger to the U.S.A.

It would be shocking, but crazier things have happened.
 
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