Trump Presidency

[Cackalacky2.0]

At Turning Point where Christian nationalist, nazis and Confederates are all hanging out together to support fascist dictator wannabe trump.

 

[Sea Turtle]

What don’t you fuckin’ understand? The President of the United States, with help from the Secret Service and Republican members of Congress, were behind January 6! A bunch of purple haired miscreants with face tattoos and dick piercings were behind the riots of 2020. Do you see the difference?!

Riiiight. The secret service and congress were in on it.

And the Joint chiefs of staff were probably involved too. It just didn't quite get far enough for their part.

If only that guy in the horns could have just gotten a little further in. He could have let out the bat signal: OPERATION SHOOT THE MOON HAS BEGUN!

Do you guys listen to yourselves? You honestly believe that there was a plan, secret service and congress and evidently with the United States armed forces backing them, for Trump to to go to the Capitol, declare himself king like Julius Caesar.

You guys are in conspiracy fantasy land.

 

[Sea Turtle]

DHS launches criminal investigation into Secret Service over missing Jan. 6 text messages

A source told Fox News on Thursday that the Department of Homeland Security is criminally investigating the Secret Service over missing texts from the Capitol Hill riot.

www.foxnews.com

Oof

They need to be investigating what happened to my pickels and tomatoes that were supposed to be on my whopper I ordered today.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

I'll let you in on a secret: NO liberal is biased towards facts and reason. If you were, you wouldn't be a liberal. The vast majority of liberal positions and arguments are emotional in nature and based on what you want or how something makes you feel, as opposed to what the facts are and how they rationally relate to reality. You want things to be a certain way and then go looking for the facts that fit or that you can twist into fitting, as opposed to examining all the facts and rationally determining what actually is. The political discussions on IE are a never-ending example of this and the old adage that liberals choose the facts that fit their views, while conservatives choose their views to fit the facts.

Again, why should any American give a shit what a descendant of Confederate traitors thinks?

 

[Bishop2b5]

DHS launches criminal investigation into Secret Service over missing Jan. 6 text messages

A source told Fox News on Thursday that the Department of Homeland Security is criminally investigating the Secret Service over missing texts from the Capitol Hill riot.

www.foxnews.com

Oof

Wow, another investigation. I mean the last one was sooo productive and not political grandstanding at all, right. Maybe this one will find all that video of 14-year-old Russian hookers peeing on Trump that they assured us existed. 😊

 

[Bishop2b5]

Again, why should any American give a shit what a descendant of Confederate traitors thinks?

In your head, does that really sound like an intelligent, rational, crushing rebuttal to my post?

 

[SeekNDestroy]

Riiiight. The secret service and congress were in on it.

And the Joint chiefs of staff were probably involved too. It just didn't quite get far enough for their part.

If only that guy in the horns could have just gotten a little further in. He could have let out the bat signal: OPERATION SHOOT THE MOON HAS BEGUN!

Do you guys listen to yourselves? You honestly believe that there was a plan, secret service and congress and evidently with the United States armed forces backing them, for Trump to to go to the Capitol, declare himself king like Julius Caesar.

You guys are in conspiracy fantasy land.

Are you an actual sea turtle? I can’t figure out if you’re being purposely obtuse or you’re just not capable of grasping anything more complex than meeting the daily needs of a reptile.

 

[SeekNDestroy]

In your head, does that really sound like an intelligent, rational, crushing rebuttal to my post?

I just don’t understand why you’re here on a Notre Dame message board, mostly about Notre Dame sports, made up of Notre Dame fans. You rarely even comment about anything Alabama football related. The vast majority of your comments are in the political threads. Does Alabama not have its own message boards, or is it all Stormfront and dating relatives sites?

 

[Bishop2b5]

Does Alabama not have its own message boards, or is it all Stormfront and dating relatives sites?

Oh wow! That was original! An incest barb. I can see you're too clever for me to spar with. The day is yours, sir!

 

[NorthDakota]

I just don’t understand why you’re here on a Notre Dame message board, mostly about Notre Dame sports, made up of Notre Dame fans. You rarely even comment about anything Alabama football related. The vast majority of your comments are in the political threads. Does Alabama not have its own message boards, or is it all Stormfront and dating relatives sites?

Should take it as a compliment that someone frequents the board without being a rival troll or whatever. Generally means they enjoy the virtual community.

If he was some weird poster from the Czech Republic who didn't stumble on here for football, I'd be with you.

 

[ulukinatme]

DHS launches criminal investigation into Secret Service over missing Jan. 6 text messages

A source told Fox News on Thursday that the Department of Homeland Security is criminally investigating the Secret Service over missing texts from the Capitol Hill riot.

www.foxnews.com

Oof

Tell me, is an investigation proof of guilt, or is it an investigation? Oof. Call me when they've found something.

 

[ulukinatme]

I just don’t understand why you’re here on a Notre Dame message board, mostly about Notre Dame sports, made up of Notre Dame fans. You rarely even comment about anything Alabama football related. The vast majority of your comments are in the political threads. Does Alabama not have its own message boards, or is it all Stormfront and dating relatives sites?

This is a pretty crappy take. Whether you agree with Bishop or not, he's been a strong contributor to the board and in areas outside of the Politics forum. He's never been a troll, he's been more respectful than even some Irish fans have been. You have all of 172 messages here, so unless you're some sock (I can't keep track of them all anymore) how about you back off. He's put in a lot more time and contribution than you. Take a lap.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Again, why should any American give a shit what a descendant of Confederate traitors thinks?

Confederates were traitors. Not surprised this new crop found a home inthe GOP

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Tell me, is an investigation proof of guilt, or is it an investigation? Oof. Call me when they've found something.

It’s a criminal investigation so yeah crimes and stuff. You bet your ass I will. XOXO

 

[GATTACA!]

Yeah, because if there was a nice plan in place and an organized mob you'd think they would have done a better job enacting it. There was no plan. When they got to the floor they stood around like the idiots they were and took selfies. Some people snapped pictures of congressional documents. The horror!

Yeah, those darn secret service agents. Last I heard they were ordered sometime after the protest to delete all messages prior to device replacement. Head of SS confirmed there was no malicious intent, it was standard protocol. Maybe that's changed, or maybe you're just buying into the outrage.

They did enact it. The angry mob broke in and had the secret service so worried they were calling their families to say goodbye and were trying to evacuate Pence out of the building. We’re one Mike Pence growing a backbone away from a far worse outcome that day.

 

[Bishop2b5]

It’s a criminal investigation so yeah crimes and stuff. You bet your ass I will. XOXO

Oh baloney! We've been waiting more than four years to see all the smoking guns and collusion and urinating Russian hookers you swore existed. I have more faith in my two-year-old grandson to show me a unicorn and the Easter Bunny.

 

[goldandblue]

Again, why should any American give a shit what a descendant of Confederate traitors thinks?

This dude must be like what 12 years old? Lol. Someone help me, is he referring to a previous post by Bishop where he said he was a descendant of a confederate traitor? Or is this a broad general assumption from a kid that’s spent his whole life locked in his room masturbating to a stolen playboy and burning the prints off his thumbs on an Xbox remote??

 

[ab2cmiller]

This thread has left the rails.

Jan 6th was worse than MAGA supporters believe.

Jan 6th was not as bad as Libs are trying to convince people it was.

 

[GoIrish41]

I'll let you in on a secret: NO liberal is biased towards facts and reason. If you were, you wouldn't be a liberal. The vast majority of liberal positions and arguments are emotional in nature and based on what you want or how something makes you feel, as opposed to what the facts are and how they rationally relate to reality. You want things to be a certain way and then go looking for the facts that fit or that you can twist into fitting, as opposed to examining all the facts and rationally determining what actually is. The political discussions on IE are a never-ending example of this and the old adage that liberals choose the facts that fit their views, while conservatives choose their views to fit the facts.

What IS is that there was a coup and you are too fragile to admit it because it would be like admitting how full of shit you are. Trump is a fascist piece of shit.

 

[NDMatt91]

Again, can my fellow Republicans tell me why we should continue to embrace and defend this guy? He’s a f*cking loser and a disgrace. Not only did he lose an election that was as close to a slam-dunk as they get, he sabotaged the 2 GOP Senators in the GA runoffs by promoting conspiracy theories about dominion machines and sending Wood and Powell to tell voters to boycott the runoffs. He’s about to cost us Toomey’s PA Senate seat, which the Democrats have NO BUSINESS winning, given the disaster that is the Biden Presidency, thanks to his endorsement of a hack that used to be on TV. Because of this jackass, that seat is going to go to a sycophant for a soon-to-be 80 year old President that is at the very least on the cognitive decline, and potentially has dementia. His hand-picked candidate in Missouri might win the Senate GOP primary. Every other GOP candidate would win by double-digits, but his candidate, given all his baggage, polls by far the worst and money will be wasted on him to push him across the finish line. He went after Doug Ducey in AZ, who was about to enter the AZ Senate race, and his conspiracy theories have made him unelectable in a primary. Mark Kelly has NO BUSINESS winning re-election. But thanks to Trump injecting himself into that race, that’s a seat we won’t win. His hand-picked candidate for Governor in AZ is a conspiracy-spewing Dominion machine truther, and that Governorship, which the Democrats have NO BUSINESS winning, will flip to the Democrats.

When George HW Bush, Dole, McCain, and Romney all lost we told them to f*ck off. Why are we not being consistent? The guy is the weakest candidate we could realistically run in 2024. I‘s time to move on.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Again, can my fellow Republicans tell me why we should continue to embrace and defend this guy? He’s a f*cking loser and a disgrace. Not only did he lose an election that was as close to a slam-dunk as they get, he sabotaged the 2 GOP Senators in the GA runoffs by promoting conspiracy theories about dominion machines and sending Wood and Powell to tell voters to boycott the runoffs.

When George HW Bush, Dole, McCain, and Romney all lost we told them to f*ck off. Why are we not being consistent? The guy is the weakest candidate we could realistically run in 2024. I‘s time to move on.

He also violates his presidential oath by starting an insurrection not sure why you guys can’t just admit that little chestnut happened lmao.

 

[Bishop2b5]

What IS is that there was a coup and you are to fragile to admit it.

It wasn't a coup. It wasn't an attempted coup. Stop trying to make it worse than it was or something it wasn't. All the exaggerating and excessive handwringing and faux crying is silly 13-year-old girl drama. FFS be the adult on your side and stop with the silly nonsense.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is the GOP. Own it.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Again, can my fellow Republicans tell me why we should continue to embrace and defend this guy? He’s a f*cking loser and a disgrace. Not only did he lose an election that was as close to a slam-dunk as they get, he sabotaged the 2 GOP Senators in the GA runoffs by promoting conspiracy theories about dominion machines and sending Wood and Powell to tell voters to boycott the runoffs.

When George HW Bush, Dole, McCain, and Romney all lost we told them to f*ck off. Why are we not being consistent? The guy is the weakest candidate we could realistically run in 2024. I‘s time to move on.

I'm not defending him, nor do I see anyone else doing so. It's about pushing back on the silly "threat to democracy," "America's darkest hour," and armed coup nonsense, not defending Trump.

 

[GoIrish41]

It wasn't a coup. It wasn't an attempted coup. Stop trying to make it worse than it was or something it wasn't. All the exaggerating and excessive handwringing and faux crying is silly 13-year-old girl drama. FFS be the adult on your side and stop with the silly nonsense.

Dude. Are you fucking stupid? It has been laid out in intricate detail by his staff and broadcast on television. Bannon “predicted” what was going to happen the day before it happened on line. They even made the points into little bite sized pieces that can squeeze into the tiniest of brain holes, even it is the only way they thought they could penetrate your thick skull. You might as well be arguing that water is dry. If you want to call me like chicken little or otherwise try to make yourself feel manly at my expense, but It’s not going to make you any smarter or your point any less bullshit.

 

[Bishop2b5]

This is the GOP. Own it.

You're trying too hard and it shows. The protestors aren't associated with the GOP, nor the Turning Point organization. They were strongly condemned by both and don't represent the views of any Republicans I know. Again, your attempt to make a dishonest, emotional argument is typical of your side, as I've pointed out numerous times. You could have attempted to rebut the comments of the speakers at the convention or the principles they stand for, but no. All you can do is misrepresent protestors as members and show a Nazi flag. See why I make fun of your style of discussion and point out its fallacies?

Turning Point USA condemns neo-Nazi protesters outside conservative convention that drew Trump

The conservative group Turning Point USA has condemned a group of neo-Nazis who gathered Saturday night outside its convention in Tampa, Fla., which also drew former President Trump and other high-…

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[Bishop2b5]

41, you told us the same about all the Steele dossier and Russian collusion years ago, and turned out to be lies and propaganda as most of us knew from the start. This is political grandstanding that will amount to little. You're being played just like last time. It was a bunch of buffoons and nitwits acting like... well, buffoons and nitwits, not some serious, organized coup to take over the government. Stop chanting the party slogans and think for yourself.

 

[GoIrish41]

You're trying too hard and it shows. The protestors aren't associated with the GOP, nor the Turning Point organization. They were strongly condemned by both and don't represent the views of any Republicans I know. Again, your attempt to make a dishonest, emotional argument is typical of your side, as I've pointed out numerous times. You could have attempted to rebut the comments of the speakers at the convention or the principles they stand for, but no. All you can do is misrepresent protestors as members and show a Nazi flag. See why I make fun of your style of discussion and point out its fallacies?

Turning Point USA condemns neo-Nazi protesters outside conservative convention that drew Trump

The conservative group Turning Point USA has condemned a group of neo-Nazis who gathered Saturday night outside its convention in Tampa, Fla., which also drew former President Trump and other high-…

thehill-com.cdn.ampproject.org

Without the fascists your party is half its size. Some just don’t have neck tattoos.

 

[GoIrish41]

No it fucking didn’t. That’s the lie you tell yourselves. Mueller documented 10 instances of obvious probable obstruction of Justice that were swept away with the bullshit narrative that there was nothing to see there and buried by Barr. There was demonstrated collision with the Trump campaign in sharing polling data with Russian intelligence operatives that also got buried because the GOP is fascist compliant and lacking any real values. Nor does it have an agenda. They are a party against things and a party that’s willing to associate with the worst scum on the planet if it’ll get you more political power. McConnell famously said we should prosecute him and now that they are trying you want block that too. Two impeachments proven beyond the shadow of a doubt, if you are being reasonable, and you declare victory because your party flaunts its lack of character by ignoring it all. Gross.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Without the fascists your party is half its size. Some just don’t have neck tattoos.

Fascist, racist, deplorable... you know, those words you generally misuse and toss at anyone you disagree with but can't refute. I don't know a single fascist Republican. None that are Nazis or Klansmen either. Calling us names that don't apply because you have nothing better is exactly what I described about your side and your emotional arguments instead of facts and reason. You guys buy into everything MSNBC and CNN tell you, parrot their talking points without question, then get mad when we disagree and point out your error. By all means though, I realize that calling us racists or nazis is an irrefutable rebuttal. 🙄