Biden Presidency

[BilboBaggins]

Not weird at all, the first two rounds were from the Trump Administration, the last round came under Biden. My understanding is that the third round was the largest and almost equal to the first two rounds combined.

Federal Reserve puts about 3% of the inflation (currently at 8%-ish) on the COVID-19 money printing. So you'd really be trying to pin a fraction of this fraction of the inflation on the Biden Administration--oh wait you created a crafty way to frame it "enabled the downward trend to pick up speed." Yeah I've seen a lot of economists say the same thing. /s

Maybe just say a fair thing like "it was a bipartisan creation that probably shouldn't have happened and yeah Trump was all in for it too."

Most of the ARPA spending hasn't even happened yet. For instance my town received, through grants or direct payments, about $2,000,000. About $30,000 of it has been spent. Just saying it's impact is a fraction of that fraction in the blame game.

The real tragedy here is we will have to go another generation of conservatives glossing over the fact that the pandemic proved that increasing the spending power of the middle and lower classes is an ENORMOUS economic demand juggernaut. To see people create a fiction that rising wages play a huge roll in inflation is pretty sad. It's like a whole half of the country will adopt this myth that we need a permanent underclass of low-paid workers to create prosperity for upper middle class Americans. In reality we should be taking the lesson of "more middle lower class spending = huge economic engine" and try to utilize that when we don't have a globalized just-in-time supply chain fuck up causing strain in every industry.

But just you wait, the monied interests will be right there with their think-tanks waiting to churn out talking points about how the inflation of 2022 was because Joe Schmo at Chipotle suddenly got a raise and we just can't have that.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

Federal Reserve puts about 3% of the inflation (currently at 8%-ish) on the COVID-19 money printing. So you'd really be trying to pin a fraction of this fraction of the inflation on the Biden Administration--oh wait you created a crafty way to frame it "enabled the downward trend to pick up speed." Yeah I've seen a lot of economists say the same thing. /s

Maybe just say a fair thing like "it was a bipartisan creation that probably shouldn't have happened and yeah Trump was all in for it too."

Most of the ARPA spending hasn't even happened yet. For instance my town received, through grants or direct payments, about $2,000,000. About $30,000 of it has been spent. Just saying it's impact is a fraction of that fraction in the blame game.

The real tragedy here is we will have to go another generation of conservatives glossing over the fact that the pandemic proved that increasing the spending power of the middle and lower classes is an ENORMOUS economic demand juggernaut. To see people create a fiction that rising wages play a huge roll in inflation is pretty sad. It's like a whole half of the country will adopt this myth that we need a permanent underclass of low-paid workers to create prosperity for upper middle class Americans. In reality we should be taking the lesson of "more middle lower class spending = huge economic engine" and try to utilize that when we don't have a globalized just-in-time supply chain fuck up causing strain in every industry.

But just you wait, the monied interests will be right there with their think-tanks waiting to churn out talking points about how the inflation of 2022 was because Joe Schmo at Chipotle suddenly got a raise and we just can't have that.

I totally agree it has been a bipartisan creation, no doubt about it. That is the problem……our politicians are often more concerned with power and electability rather than making the tough decisions to make society better. And to be clear, I was not saying that higher wages played a huge role in inflation. What I was saying is the apparent rise in wages has been severely offset by inflation so making more money has not had as much impact for workers as I would have hoped. Money printing is rarely a good idea and I would agree that is only part of the reason for inflation.

 

[GATTACA!]

Not weird at all, the first two rounds were from the Trump Administration, the last round came under Biden. My understanding is that the third round was the largest and almost equal to the first two rounds combined.

All of the COVID-19 stimulus bills, visualized

Here's how to visualize the trillions of dollars Congress has spent on the different bills, which are aimed at helping with the fallout of COVID-19.

www.usatoday.com

Trump spent just over double what Biden did on different covid relief packages. But please guys tell me more about how Biden printing money caused the inflation we're dealing with now.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

All of the COVID-19 stimulus bills, visualized

Here's how to visualize the trillions of dollars Congress has spent on the different bills, which are aimed at helping with the fallout of COVID-19.

www.usatoday.com

Trump spent just over double what Biden did on different covid relief packages. But please guys tell me more about how Biden printing money caused the inflation we're dealing with now.

I responded to the question: “So was it Covid or Biden that fucked it all up?” I said COVID started it and the Biden Administration enabled it to continue. I never said it was the Biden Administration that was the only one printing money. I appreciate the data you presented from USA Today although that doesn’t line up with the data I have read.

 

[TorontoGold]

You're going to love googling Trump's teleprompter highlights too, I assume. Fair and balanced as you are. He had the best words, the very best words. Believe me. People are saying.

I mean, l o l.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You don't know the difference between intentionally saying "end of quote" to make it clear you're finished quoting someone, and reading the directions on the teleprompter??? No wonder some of you don't see what's wrong with Joe.

 

[Bishop2b5]

You're going to love googling Trump's teleprompter highlights too, I assume. Fair and balanced as you are. He had the best words, the very best words. Believe me. People are saying.

This is the Biden thread. Trump's not in office. "But, but, but TRUMP!" is a weak, tired reply to all criticism of your dimwitted boy.

 

[drayer54]

Morgan Stanley and I blame the partisan American Rescue Plan for the heavy inflation and some of the economy problems we are experiencing. Charts time out just right too. Even lib economists knew better, but hey. There’s surely someone to blame?

 

[drayer54]

All of the COVID-19 stimulus bills, visualized

Here's how to visualize the trillions of dollars Congress has spent on the different bills, which are aimed at helping with the fallout of COVID-19.

www.usatoday.com

Trump spent just over double what Biden did on different covid relief packages. But please guys tell me more about how Biden printing money caused the inflation we're dealing with now.

Also- still transitory as inflation approaches Biden’s approval rating

Another bad thing Biden was unable to predict or prevent.

 

[BilboBaggins]

This is the Biden thread. Trump's not in office. "But, but, but TRUMP!" is a weak, tired reply to all criticism of your dimwitted boy.

Just pointing out a hypocrite when I see one.

 

[NorthDakota]

I mean, l o l.

99/100 times I would absolutely nuke you for sharing a Brian Tyler Cohen tweet (dude is basically a YouTube version of Aaron Rupar), but yeah I ain't gonna get too worked up about the old man not doing great with teleprompters. Lots of people mess those up.

Even Ron Burgundy (a broadcast legend) had his slip-ups.

Biden has plenty of stuff to go after that's much better red meat than a teleprompter issue.

Similar but unrelated: what happened to Kamala Harris? This lady has been in the public eye (whether local, state, or national) for like 20 years and now can't get a coherent thought out of her mouth. People say she sounds like someone giving a book report after not reading the book but man, it looks like total stage fright. I am starting to feel bad for her a bit.

 

[TorontoGold]

99/100 times I would absolutely nuke you for sharing a Brian Tyler Cohen tweet (dude is basically a YouTube version of Aaron Rupar), but yeah I ain't gonna get too worked up about the old man not doing great with teleprompters. Lots of people mess those up.

Even Ron Burgundy (a broadcast legend) had his slip-ups.

Biden has plenty of stuff to go after that's much better red meat than a teleprompter issue.

Similar but unrelated: what happened to Kamala Harris? This lady has been in the public eye (whether local, state, or national) for like 20 years and now can't get a coherent thought out of her mouth. People say she sounds like someone giving a book report after not reading the book but man, it looks like total stage fright. I am starting to feel bad for her a bit.

I normally wouldn't go down that route either, but when I routinely see others share stuff from the Pizzagate people I figured there's no point in holding back.

 

[GATTACA!]

99/100 times I would absolutely nuke you for sharing a Brian Tyler Cohen tweet (dude is basically a YouTube version of Aaron Rupar), but yeah I ain't gonna get too worked up about the old man not doing great with teleprompters. Lots of people mess those up.

Even Ron Burgundy (a broadcast legend) had his slip-ups.

Biden has plenty of stuff to go after that's much better red meat than a teleprompter issue.

Similar but unrelated: what happened to Kamala Harris? This lady has been in the public eye (whether local, state, or national) for like 20 years and now can't get a coherent thought out of her mouth. People say she sounds like someone giving a book report after not reading the book but man, it looks like total stage fright. I am starting to feel bad for her a bit.

Kamala is the worst. She has negative charisma. She talks like she blasted on pills or booze.

 

[Irish#1]

9.1% today.

 

[Bishop2b5]

Kamala is the worst. She has negative charisma. She talks like she blasted on pills or booze.

I hadn't thought of her behavior that way and I doubt she is, but that's sure an accurate description.

 

[GoIrish41]

Keep waiting.

Everyone and I mean everyone knows that if this had been one of Trump's kids, it would be front and center on damn near every media outlet there is.

Two of Trump’s kids have been issued subpoenas to testify in a real trial. If either Biden is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. Easy peasy. But you are talking about what might happen instead of what is happening with Trump’s kids. And despite your supposition it’s not really front and center at all.

 

[GoIrish41]

I think he was looking for more substance about Biden. You responded, but it was basically "he's not Trump".

Pretty solid rationale, no?

 

[ACamp1900]

Kamala is the worst. She has negative charisma. She talks like she blasted on pills or booze.

I’ve shared that I’ve been graced by her presence before,… her and Beto are the two most off putting people but in totally different ways. Beto is just sleaze, Harris walked around like she was lord of the manor and everyone was there to serve her,… and this was before anyone knew who dafaq she even was. In fact meeting/dealing with her was part of the perfect storm off eye opening crap that got me to leave the democrat party.

 

[Irish#1]

Pretty solid rationale, no?

No

 

[goldandblue]

Two of Trump’s kids have been issued subpoenas to testify in a real trial. If either Biden is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. Easy peasy. But you are talking about what might happen instead of what is happening with Trump’s kids. And despite your supposition it’s not really front and center at all.

Both prostitution and drug use are illegal. Hunter has been on video doing both. So are you saying Bidens children are benefiting from white privilege while Trumps children are not?? Isn’t the lefts stance is that they are going to provide equal opportunity for everyone and white privilege is bad? Good thing you guys voted for public enemy #1 in that department…..

 

[GoIrish41]

Both prostitution and drug use are illegal. Hunter has been on video doing both. So are you saying Bidens children are benefiting from white privilege while Trumps children are not?? Isn’t the lefts stance is that they are going to provide equal opportunity for everyone and white privilege is bad? Good thing you guys voted for public enemy #1 in that department…..

You must have missed the part where I said if he’s guilty, prosecute him. Also, I didn’t mention anything about white privilege. You must have skipped ahead on your talking points.

 

[Irish#1]

Two of Trump’s kids have been issued subpoenas to testify in a real trial. If either Biden is guilty of a crime, prosecute him. Easy peasy. But you are talking about what might happen instead of what is happening with Trump’s kids. And despite your supposition it’s not really front and center at all.

Apples to oranges 41. You're comparing a state AG that has been trying to get Trump for years on a state matter against international business dealings that may or may not have compromised U.S. positions. I would bet my now worthless vbucks that Joe is never investigated, let alone charged and tried regardless of what they find.

 

[RDU Irish]

No I didn’t. My numbers were national favorability stats, not projections of electors. People keep saying without Covid Trump was going to win in a landslide. I posted stats showing there’s no reason to believe that because he was already behind pre Covid.

Yes because Russia being a hoax or not has nothing to do with the argument. First it was Trump was going to win 2020 in a landslide without Covid. Once I point out that it isn’t true. The goalpost move to blaming the Russian hoax.

Small binary thinkers have a hard time understanding that multiple separate issues can be a negative and even compound on each other. That is not moving goalposts, that is pointing out the epic pile of proven bullshit rather than arguing you have to look at one turd at a time.

Popular vote is irrelevant thanks to our Electoral College - those old racists were smart enough to make sure the whole country didn't follow California and New York in to the abyss long before California even existed.

 

[RDU Irish]

Federal Reserve puts about 3% of the inflation (currently at 8%-ish) on the COVID-19 money printing. So you'd really be trying to pin a fraction of this fraction of the inflation on the Biden Administration--oh wait you created a crafty way to frame it "enabled the downward trend to pick up speed." Yeah I've seen a lot of economists say the same thing. /s

Maybe just say a fair thing like "it was a bipartisan creation that probably shouldn't have happened and yeah Trump was all in for it too."

Most of the ARPA spending hasn't even happened yet. For instance my town received, through grants or direct payments, about $2,000,000. About $30,000 of it has been spent. Just saying it's impact is a fraction of that fraction in the blame game.

The real tragedy here is we will have to go another generation of conservatives glossing over the fact that the pandemic proved that increasing the spending power of the middle and lower classes is an ENORMOUS economic demand juggernaut. To see people create a fiction that rising wages play a huge roll in inflation is pretty sad. It's like a whole half of the country will adopt this myth that we need a permanent underclass of low-paid workers to create prosperity for upper middle class Americans. In reality we should be taking the lesson of "more middle lower class spending = huge economic engine" and try to utilize that when we don't have a globalized just-in-time supply chain fuck up causing strain in every industry.

But just you wait, the monied interests will be right there with their think-tanks waiting to churn out talking points about how the inflation of 2022 was because Joe Schmo at Chipotle suddenly got a raise and we just can't have that.

The hilarious thing is the limousine libs you put in office want you poor so you don't consume and ruin the world through global warming. Stay home and hide under your bed peons. Wage growth evaporates at the hand of inflation making working class poorer - particularly when necessities of food, energy and housing are dramatically outpacing the headline inflation numbers. WTF do you think the poor and working class spend a disproportionate amount of their income on? Closet tax increase too - sneaky bastards.

You can't print food and 2x4s - somebody has to actually make that stuff. All the minimum wage opponents have told you forever, raising the minimum is inflationary and now look at that! But your next breath will be for Basic Universal Income - what could possible go wrong there!

Only time in my lifetime we saw real wage growth was under the bad orange man. Also record minority employment. Such an evil doer. Create a positive business environment with cheap, reliable domestic energy and wages go up as demand for qualified workers goes through the roof.

 

[BilboBaggins]

The hilarious thing is the limousine libs you put in office want you poor so you don't consume and ruin the world through global warming. Stay home and hide under your bed peons. Wage growth evaporates at the hand of inflation making working class poorer - particularly when necessities of food, energy and housing are dramatically outpacing the headline inflation numbers. WTF do you think the poor and working class spend a disproportionate amount of their income on? Closet tax increase too - sneaky bastards.

You can't print food and 2x4s - somebody has to actually make that stuff. All the minimum wage opponents have told you forever, raising the minimum is inflationary and now look at that! But your next breath will be for Basic Universal Income - what could possible go wrong there!

Only time in my lifetime we saw real wage growth was under the bad orange man. Also record minority employment. Such an evil doer. Create a positive business environment with cheap, reliable domestic energy and wages go up as demand for qualified workers goes through the roof.

Starts with a conspiracy theory and then casually omitting that the Trump tenure was on the tailend of the longest bull market in American history. Nice.

It amazes me how so-called conservatives worship the presidency as if it runs not only the national economy, but the global economy too.

In 2017, for example, something very rare happened: no part of the world was in recession. None. Everything firing on all cylinders. In a globalized economy, this was a pretty positive thing.

But yeah it was definitely the US government doing that. LOL

 

[GATTACA!]

Small binary thinkers have a hard time understanding that multiple separate issues can be a negative and even compound on each other. That is not moving goalposts, that is pointing out the epic pile of proven bullshit rather than arguing you have to look at one turd at a time.

Popular vote is irrelevant thanks to our Electoral College - those old racists were smart enough to make sure the whole country didn't follow California and New York in to the abyss long before California even existed.

Literally none of this matters or has anything to do with my point.

I was contesting the idea that without covid Trump would have steamrolled the election. Full stop.

You can cite all the bullshit you want that happened to poor Trump. Maybe all of that added up is the reason he lost, but it sure isn't covid's fault because he was already losing. Due to the real or fake controversies he was dealing with on a daily basis.

 

[NorthDakota]

Literally none of this matters or has anything to do with my point.

I was contesting the idea that without covid Trump would have steamrolled the election. Full stop.

You can cite all the bullshit you want that happened to poor Trump. Maybe all of that added up is the reason he lost, but it sure isn't covid's fault because he was already losing. Due to the real or fake controversies he was dealing with on a daily basis.

I dont think he would have steamrolled but I suspect he would have won by a decent margin. But who knows.

 

[GATTACA!]

I dont think he would have steamrolled but I suspect he would have won by a decent margin. But who knows.

I think if he would have handled it better and used it to unify the country he could have won. Wartime presidents have never failed to win reelection. Covid and the weirdness it caused was similar IMO.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

U.S. Selling Oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to the Highest Bidding Companies - FactCheck.org

Q: Is the Biden administration selling crude oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to other countries? A: The oil is sold to eligible companies that make the highest offers. Some of the companies are U.S. subsidiaries of foreign companies, and some that purchased oil have then exported a...

www.factcheck.org

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

The coal baron who lives on a yacht and drives a Maserati just keeps it real.