2023 - State of the Recruiting Class

[NDPhilly]

Can’t understate how important it is to go 10-2 or better this year and not embarrass ourselves against OSU, Clemson, USC. All this momentum hinges on that.

 

[WilliamWallace]

Can’t understate how important it is to go 10-2 or better this year and not embarrass ourselves against OSU, Clemson, USC. All this momentum hinges on that.

This is a good point, and I honestly think this is the closest we’ve ever been to championship caliber ND that I can really remember. Good teams between the mid 90’s through today but most were not championship caliber. And I believe if we get some good QB play this season, we may already be there.

It’s both easy, and stressful getting this optimistic, lol. But it’s fun right now. I’ll have to revert back to my Cautiously Optimistic approach until I see how they are progressing through August. But I guarantee this ND team will have a much different feel about them then all the years past. Or at least I hope so,

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Can’t understate how important it is to go 10-2 or better this year and not embarrass ourselves against OSU, Clemson, USC. All this momentum hinges on that.

Agreed. Now I don't think 9-3 kills us but it ain't great.

10-2 keeps the train rolling and kids believing, 11-1 gets the hype-meter at full tilt, 12-0 might cause this whole mutha&*%#a go boom.

 

[GoIrish41]

Can’t understate how important it is to go 10-2 or better this year and not embarrass ourselves against OSU, Clemson, USC. All this momentum hinges on that.

I think we win 2 of 3 of those games.

 

[stpeteirish]

This is a good point, and I honestly think this is the closest we’ve ever been to championship caliber ND that I can really remember. Good teams between the mid 90’s through today but most were not championship caliber. And I believe if we get some good QB play this season, we may already be there.

It’s both easy, and stressful getting this optimistic, lol. But it’s fun right now. I’ll have to revert back to my Cautiously Optimistic approach until I see how they are progressing through August. But I guarantee this ND team will have a much different feel about them then all the years past. Or at least I hope so,

If you're worried about being to optimistic go back and watch the Okie St game.

 

[stlnd01]

Can’t understate how important it is to go 10-2 or better this year and not embarrass ourselves against OSU, Clemson, USC. All this momentum hinges on that.

Not gonna lie the offense makes me nervous. We’re so thin at QB, RB and WR.

 

[greyhammer90]

State of the recruiting class:

En fuego

 

[Sea Turtle]

If you're worried about being to optimistic go back and watch the Okie St game.

The second half.

 

[Rockin’Irish]

The second half.

I’m anticipating Al Golden will be a much better DC than Mike Elston……love Elston but not so sure he is DC material.

 

[du Lac]

I get it that Rees gets some of the blame, but Freeman gets none? Bullcrap. There is no way that canceling Vizzina was Reese's call. I'm sure there were discussions among the coaching staff, but ultimate responsibility lies at the feet of Freeman. It was either his decision to be made, or he delegated that decision to Rees. Either way, it was ultimately Freeman's call.

I’m a big fan of Freeman. I am looking for him to step it up and take control more. Would’ve liked to see him force TB into the bowl game and take more control on the sideline. Needed to see more conversing and energy. Hoping that confidence comes with time. I don’t want Tommy Rees having too many executive powers. I could see giving more control of the offense, but I was scratching my head the entire second half about TB.

 

[WilliamWallace]

If you're worried about being to optimistic go back and watch the Okie St game.

Ha, that’s where the cautious comes in. I said before though, I’ll not hold that against him. Clean slate as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Luckylucci]

247’s Elite 11 rankings after Day 2 which was the Pro Day workout.

Elite 11 Finals 2022: 247Sports' final QB rankings

Our pick for Elite Finals MVP came down to two players and we went back and forth on it. Dante Moore and Jackson Arnold were exceptional all week, flashing high level tools and upside.

247sports.com

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

1. QB Dante Moore
2. RB Jayden Limar
3. RB Jeremiyah Love
4. WR Braylon James
5. WR Rico Flores
6. WR Jaden Greathouse
7. WR Ronan Hanafin
8. TE Cooper Flanagan
9. OL Sam Pendleton
10. OL Sullivan Absher
11. OL Joe Otting
12. OL Elijah Paige
13. OL Charles Jagusah
14. DT Devan Houstan
15. DE Keon Keeley
16. DE Brenan Vernon
17. DE Boubacar Traore
18. DE Jason Moore
19. LB Drayk Bowen
20. LB Preston Zinter
21. DE/LB Samuel M'Pemba
22. LB Jaiden Ausberry
23. CB Christian Gray
24. CB Micah Tease
24. CB Micah Bell
25. S Adon Shuler
26. S Peyton Bowen
27. S Caleb Downs

 

[greyhammer90]

247’s Elite 11 rankings after Day 2 which was the Pro Day workout.

Elite 11 Finals 2022: 247Sports' final QB rankings

Our pick for Elite Finals MVP came down to two players and we went back and forth on it. Dante Moore and Jackson Arnold were exceptional all week, flashing high level tools and upside.

247sports.com

Lol genuinely starting to feel like the QB position has some weird curse on it where everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

1. QB CJ Carr
2. RB Jayden Limar
3. RB Jeremiyah Love
4. WR Braylon James
5. WR Rico Flores
6. WR Jaden Greathouse
7. WR Ronan Hanafin
8. TE Cooper Flanagan
9. OL Sam Pendleton
10. OL Sullivan Absher
11. OL Joe Otting
12. OL Elijah Paige
13. OL Charles Jagusah
14. DT Devan Houstan
15. DE Keon Keeley
16. DE Brenan Vernon
17. DE Boubacar Traore
18. DE Jason Moore
19. LB Drayk Bowen
20. LB Preston Zinter
21. DE/LB Samuel M'Pemba
22. LB Jaiden Ausberry
23. CB Christian Gray
24. CB Jasiah Wagoner
24. CB Micah Bell
25. S Adon Shuler
26. S Peyton Bowen
27. S Caleb Downs

Didn't make the cut for Wagoner. I think M'Pemba is a pipe dream unless he actually OV's in the Fall. I don't think ND is getting Downs either.

I'm not a recruiting junky. Just my gut. Would obviously love to be wrong.

 

[Irish#1]

I’m a big fan of Freeman. I am looking for him to step it up and take control more. Would’ve liked to see him force TB into the bowl game and take more control on the sideline. Needed to see more conversing and energy. Hoping that confidence comes with time. I don’t want Tommy Rees having too many executive powers. I could see giving more control of the offense, but I was scratching my head the entire second half about TB.

I get he's wearing the right hat, but I have grown tired of seeing Lloyd Carr's face. lol

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Lol genuinely starting to feel like the QB position has some weird curse on it where everything that can go wrong will go wrong.

I feel the same but here's the silver lining: The way ND is recruiting both lines, a great OL can make mediocre QBs look better and a great DL will make opposing elite QBs look terrible. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Didn't make the cut for Wagoner. I think M'Pemba is a pipe dream unless he actually OV's in the Fall. I don't think ND is getting Downs either.

I'm not a recruiting junky. Just my gut. Would obviously love to be wrong.

I'm going with Micah Tease then. M'Pemba and Downs stay for now.

I fully comprehend any hint of optimism is going to be met with explosive ass piss out here, but humor me. I think conservative realistic conventional wisdom thinking stands in the way of anyone ever getting anywhere.

I Believe in Marcus Freeman

 

[ColinKSU]

Jagusah is a huge pickup. This class needed tackles, and he's as good as it gets.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I'm going with Micah Tease then. M'Pemba and Downs stay for now.

I fully comprehend any hint of optimism is going to be met with explosive ass piss out here, but humor me. I think conservative realistic conventional wisdom thinking stands in the way of anyone ever getting anywhere.

I Believe in Marcus Freeman

Tease wants to play WR, right? So change that spot in your list to ATH or WR and you got yourself a deal.

M'Pemba by all accounts is a ND type kid. They want him to OV in the fall, closer towards his decision timeline, and if he does, I think ND lands him. I'm not holding my breath on Downs though. I think ND can pull it off, but I don't think there's enough intel out there right now on him to warrant any confidence. Again, I don't follow recruiting as closely as others, so maybe I'm completely wrong and ND lands all of them....I'm good with that!

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Jagusah is a huge pickup. This class needed tackles, and he's as good as it gets.

Heistand recruits only tackles and sorts it out later, IIRC.

 

[Jiggafini19Deux]

Tease wants to play WR, right? So change that spot in your list to ATH or WR and you got yourself a deal.

M'Pemba by all accounts is a ND type kid. They want him to OV in the fall, closer towards his decision timeline, and if he does, I think ND lands him. I'm not holding my breath on Downs though. I think ND can pull it off, but I don't think there's enough intel out there right now on him to warrant any confidence. Again, I don't follow recruiting as closely as others, so maybe I'm completely wrong and ND lands all of them....I'm good with that!

Doesn't seem like it.

 

[ColinKSU]

Heistand recruits only tackles and sorts it out later, IIRC.

That's typically been his strategy. But it's clear some of the kids in this OL class aren't full-time starting OTs at the level ND plays (and that's fine! Lines need guards and centers), so it's great to land players like Paige and Jagusah who are obvious tackles.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Doesn't seem like it.

Everything is relative. I used to eat/sleep/breath recruiting. Now I just dabble. It's easier on the ol' ticker.

 

[OrlaNDomer]

HOw confident are we that ND is going 3/3?

7/1 - Micah Bell
7/3 - Rico Flores
7/4 - Christian Gray

 

[Cpnd1]

HOw confident are we that ND is going 3/3?

7/1 - Micah Bell
7/3 - Rico Flores
7/4 - Christian Gray

100%

 

[greyhammer90]

HOw confident are we that ND is going 3/3?

7/1 - Micah Bell
7/3 - Rico Flores
7/4 - Christian Gray

Basically certain?

 

[Dale]

Jagusah is a huge pickup. This class needed tackles, and he's as good as it gets.

Heistand recruits only tackles and sorts it out later, IIRC.

That's typically been his strategy. But it's clear some of the kids in this OL class aren't full-time starting OTs at the level ND plays (and that's fine! Lines need guards and centers), so it's great to land players like Paige and Jagusah who are obvious tackles.

IMO one of Absher or Jagusah ends up as a big ass OG, especially if Aamil Wagner hits.

 

[Dale]

If you told me it’ll be

Paige - Jagusah - Otting - Pendleton - Absher

if this class had to be slotted exclusively in each spot it’d say sign me up.

 

[arrowryan]

If you told me it’ll be

Paige - Jagusah - Otting - Pendleton - Absher

if this class had to be slotted exclusively in each spot it’d say sign me up.

I’d set the O/U for future starters at 2.5