'23 MI QB Dante Moore (Greek Spaghetti Transfer)

[Kingbish01]

The point is ND isn't getting to the next level that we want them to if they miss on Moore. Angeli isn't gonna cut it. Buchner might. Even if they get Moore, he might suck. They need to get top 100 caliber QB every year. If they are lucky over a 5 year span, a couple of them end up panning out.

The only teams I can think of that won a Natty in the last 20 years without a stud QB was UGA last year and LSU in '07. I'm not factoring in any BAMA teams as the one year they won it with Coker he had 5 NFL RB's to work with.

 

[ACamp1900]

I cant believe I gave y’all an opportunity to talk Mexican soap opera cochinas and y’all are still going on about high school football players,… freakin losers.

 

[NDMatt91]

He's CJ Stroud 2.0

Moore or Johnson?

 

[Irish'15]

A top 100 level QB means they’re a top 15 or so QB. Not a super tall ask. If you want ND to compete for championships, that’s what it takes. If you’re okay with what they’ve been doing for the last 5 years, that’s fine. Be fine with the Angelis of the world.

With our recent success on the field and in recruiting we should be able to recruit better at QB, there is no doubt. Clemson landed the #1 QB last year and also got Vizzina this year. They also have DJ, a 5 star. Vizzina/Moore/Arnold would've been reasonable this year with a homerun in Sayin/Carr next year. Missing completely is a recruiting issue no matter how anyone spins it.

 

[Irish'15]

This had to have been the harshest eval of a 5* QB I've ever read... kidding of course... maybe.

I agree with that eval. I watched a lot of tape on Dante and Arnold and Vizzina have more upside. Dante is polished and accurate. Julian Sayin in '24 is Dante on wheels.

 

[Irish4life]

Moore or Johnson?

Moore, imho.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Yeah, I'm in the Moore camp for sure. Maybe that's why I'm fine with the approach ND is taking here.

With the caveat that I've only seen their high school game highlights....

Moore >>> Jackson > Vizzina

I fully acknowledge Moore is an inferior athlete. I just don't think it matters all that much.

 

[Irish'15]

Yeah, I'm in the Moore camp for sure. Maybe that's why I'm fine with the approach ND is taking here.

With the caveat that I've only seen their high school game highlights....

Moore >>> Jackson > Vizzina

I fully acknowledge Moore is an inferior athlete. I just don't think it matters all that much.

Here is a question, if Moore has a not so big arm and is not a good runner, what makes his upside any bigger than Jack Coan? JC was pretty darn accurate and could spin it. He just lacked athleticism and a huge arm. I prefer a bigger arm kid and/or the ability to run around. Maybe that's just me. I think there are a lot of people that love Dante that haven't even watched his film. I see a lot of potential in Vizzina, Arnold, and Sayin. I admittedly haven't seen much on CJ Carr so I cannot comment.

 

[Irish#1]

Yeah, I'm in the Moore camp for sure. Maybe that's why I'm fine with the approach ND is taking here.

With the caveat that I've only seen their high school game highlights....

Moore >>> Jackson > Vizzina

I fully acknowledge Moore is an inferior athlete. I just don't think it matters all that much.

I don't get where this comes from. As I've mentioned several times before, I watched the Carmel game and Moore showed plenty of athleticism in that game. I think some are confusing not pulling the ball down and taking off with scrambling until he finds his guy. IMO Moore is a better runner than Book and Book did okay in that category.

 

[dublinirish]

Here is a question, if Moore has a not so big arm and is not a good runner, what makes his upside any bigger than Jack Coan? JC was pretty darn accurate and could spin it. He just lacked athleticism and a huge arm. I prefer a bigger arm kid and/or the ability to run around. Maybe that's just me.

heres clips of Moore running, you can't compare him to Coan lol

 

[Irish#1]

Here is a question, if Moore has a not so big arm and is not a good runner, what makes his upside any bigger than Jack Coan? JC was pretty darn accurate and could spin it. He just lacked athleticism and a huge arm. I prefer a bigger arm kid and/or the ability to run around. Maybe that's just me. I think there are a lot of people that love Dante that haven't even watched his film. I see a lot of potential in Vizzina, Arnold, and Sayin. I admittedly haven't seen much on CJ Carr so I cannot comment.

Moore has an arm and he's accurate. As far as Coan, he was accurate but he was average when it came to spinning it.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I don't get where this comes from. As I've mentioned several times before, I watched the Carmel game and Moore showed plenty of athleticism in that game. I think some are confusing not pulling the ball down and taking off with scrambling until he finds his guy. IMO Moore is a better runner than Book and Book did okay in that category.

From what I've seen Moore is a great scrambler but I haven't seen any kind of top end speed. FWIW, I think his ability to scramble while looking downfield (and his quick release without needing a big step) is more valuable than Vizzina and Arnold's ability to tuck and go.

I think Moore is a good athlete. I'm not knocking him in that department at all.

 

[Blazers46]

Exhausted four years of eligibility, to be clear. So not Clausen or Kizer. But yeah Rees, Book, Quinn. And Evan Sharpley!
Everyone else for a long time either transferred or switched positions.

I guess you could say 5... I would think the goal would be 3 and out like Claussen and Kizer. Means they left early for the draft, which is probably a good thing for the program. I would rather have Claussen and Kizer for 3 years over having Rees and Book for 4... probably.

 

[ACamp1900]

Not everyone is as refined culturally as you are.

Truth,…

 

[317Irish]

Dante Moore saga day 45: the board has suddenly begun a shift towards the “he’s not coming here so let’s start downplaying his talent” mindset.

 

[DONTH8]

Dante Moore saga day 45: the board has suddenly begun a shift towards the “he’s not coming here so let’s start downplaying his talent” mindset.

Granted, it's a new personal best for the site. Usually, we start after day 10 or so.

 

[Irish'15]

Dante Moore saga day 45: the board has suddenly begun a shift towards the “he’s not coming here so let’s start downplaying his talent” mindset.

Did anyone actually think he was as good as Julian Sayin? Just sayin.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Dante Moore saga day 45: the board has suddenly begun a shift towards the “he’s not coming here so let’s start downplaying his talent” mindset.

IE: "Dante! DANTE!

 

[NDPhilly]

Dante is 6'1" Bryce Young with a 7/10 arm talent instead of a 9/10. Change my view.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Dante is 6'1" Bryce Young with a 7/10 arm talent instead of a 9/10. Change my view.

He's a rich man's Walker Howard.

 

[benneboy]

Here is a question, if Moore has a not so big arm and is not a good runner, what makes his upside any bigger than Jack Coan? JC was pretty darn accurate and could spin it. He just lacked athleticism and a huge arm. I prefer a bigger arm kid and/or the ability to run around. Maybe that's just me. I think there are a lot of people that love Dante that haven't even watched his film. I see a lot of potential in Vizzina, Arnold, and Sayin. I admittedly haven't seen much on CJ Carr so I cannot comment.

Neither Vizzina nor Arnold have a bigger arm or better arm talent than Moore. I don't know why this keeps getting stated on here.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Neither Vizzina nor Arnold have a bigger arm or better arm talent than Moore. I don't know why this keeps getting stated on here.

We need a ruling from Biden's Ministry of Truth.

 

[Luckylucci]

Dante Moore saga day 45: the board has suddenly begun a shift towards the “he’s not coming here so let’s start downplaying his talent” mindset.

Don't think that's fair criticism in the slightest. A lot of people here, including myself, have long felt that Jackson Arnold and Chris Vizzina are equal, if not, better prospects. Just because we lost out on 2 of them doesn't make Dante better. It just makes this stupid circus we're wrapped up in even less appealing. We could've had Vizzina, who I've always said was a comparable prospect and none of this shit show.

Vizzina tearing up the QB Retreat while repping ND hard >>>>>>>> Waiting to hear about what bizarre change of plans the Moore's are going to throw out to our coaching staff after they clearly committing or telling them they'll commit in April.

 

[ThePiombino]

Don't think that's fair criticism in the slightest. A lot of people here, including myself, have long felt that Jackson Arnold and Chris Vizzina are equal, if not, better prospects. Just because we lost out on 2 of them doesn't make Dante better. It just makes this stupid circus we're wrapped up in even less appealing. We could've had Vizzina, who I've always said was a comparable prospect and none of this shit show.

Vizzina tearing up the QB Retreat while repping ND hard >>>>>>>> Waiting to hear about what bizarre change of plans the Moore's are going to throw out to our coaching staff after they clearly committing or telling them they'll commit in April.

I believe this perfectly sums up this cycle at QB.

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[Irish4life]

Loy says that if ND misses on Dante Moore, he believes we'll get Avery Johnson. Also added that ND leads for both Sayin and Carr. He's close to joining Wiltfong with an ND CB in for Carr, but believes that Sayin may be ready to commit before Carr is.

 

[GATTACA!]

We could've had Vizzina

According to who?

 

[Irish4life]

Don't think that's fair criticism in the slightest. A lot of people here, including myself, have long felt that Jackson Arnold and Chris Vizzina are equal, if not, better prospects. Just because we lost out on 2 of them doesn't make Dante better. It just makes this stupid circus we're wrapped up in even less appealing. We could've had Vizzina, who I've always said was a comparable prospect and none of this shit show.

Vizzina tearing up the QB Retreat while repping ND hard >>>>>>>> Waiting to hear about what bizarre change of plans the Moore's are going to throw out to our coaching staff after they clearly committing or telling them they'll commit in April.

Vizz definitely has the athletic ability advantage on Moore, and I'd say probably a stronger arm, but let's not pretend that Moore isn't a phenomenal QB prospect. The kid is a deadly accurate pocket passer and has more than enough arm strength to make every throw. If Moore commits today, tomorrow, a month from now, or on ESD.....it was the right decision to go after him.

 

[Dale]

I think Vizzina and Moore are the two highest ceiling and essentially equal in “rank” if I was going to rank national QBs. Arnold it’d have the smallest tier below in talent but he has a natural “It” to him that naturally is attractive in a QB. That brings that all about equal in my book as what I would be happy with @ ND. To me it’s Stroud (Moore) versus Corral (Arnold) versus Jurkovec with actual arm talent (Vizzina). If they all break the right way you can’t go wrong. Vizzina maybe a hair over Moore if we consider the ND offense and possible lack of WR talent but that problem could be addressed by then, hopefully.

 

[NDPhilly]

If you can't get a top 150 or at the very least a high upside QB, you're almost better off not using the scholarship and just poaching one from another school as needed.

 

[Irish'15]

Neither Vizzina nor Arnold have a bigger arm or better arm talent than Moore. I don't know why this keeps getting stated on here.

Well, Arnold is far more mobile and has a very good arm. So, I liked him a lot. Vizzina has upside