2021-2022 Notre Dame Men's Basketball

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FWIW, I haven't seen or read anything that really implies they're "on the bubble." Down or not, this squad finished 2nd in the ACC in the regular season. I have a hard time believing they would go from firmly in to "last four in."

I'm hopeful we'll lock in an 11 seed, no play-in game.

Lunardi has them as the last team before last 4 in. I wouldn't be so sure. Looking at his last 4 in and first 4 out, it contains Wyoming, Wake, Xavier, and IU, and then SMU, Dayton, VT, and OU. Best case for ND is Boise beats Wyoming, IU loses to Illinois, and VT loses to UNC. I think VT can definitely jump ND with a win.
 

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Lunardi has them as the last team before last 4 in. I wouldn't be so sure. Looking at his last 4 in and first 4 out, it contains Wyoming, Wake, Xavier, and IU, and then SMU, Dayton, VT, and OU. Best case for ND is Boise beats Wyoming, IU loses to Illinois, and VT loses to UNC. I think VT can definitely jump ND with a win.
Yeah, it's definitely close. But at least to pundits have us in and playing Houston; I'd feel a lot more nervous if it was one saying 11 seed, another saying play-in. Then again, there are some that have us as low as a 12-seed playing SMU for the play-in.


"Despite the loss, it appears as if the Irish are firmly in the NCAA Tournament field. Both CBS Sports' Jerry Palm and ESPN's Joe Lunardi, as of Friday morning, project Notre Dame as a No. 11 seed, facing No. 6 Houston in the first round."
 

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Bracket Matrix has 107 collected brackets from various sites, of which all but 4 have ND in.
 

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The turnovers were beyond atrocious and VT took advantage countless times. The team will get blown out by a McNeese State.
 

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Bracket Matrix has 107 collected brackets from various sites, of which all but 4 have ND in.
By "in" do you know if they're implying in the field of 68 or 64? In other words, do they imply how many of them might have us in a play-in game?
 

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By "in" do you know if they're implying in the field of 68 or 64? In other words, do they imply how many of them might have us in a play-in game?
No, they just have what seed they expect them to have.

43 out of 107 have ND as an 11 seed, which means there's a possibility they end up having to play in to the round of 64.
 

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I don't think this deserves its own thread yet, but the Maryland 247 writer has heard that they are targeting Brey as one of the candidates to be their next HC. Doesn't make much sense for either party on first glance given his age and team next year, but he does have a ton of Maryland high school connections. Something to monitor.
 

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I don't think this deserves its own thread yet, but the Maryland 247 writer has heard that they are targeting Brey as one of the candidates to be their next HC. Doesn't make much sense for either party on first glance given his age and team next year, but he does have a ton of Maryland high school connections. Something to monitor.
Would be really strange timing for Brey. He has the most impressive recruiting haul of his career at ND to compliment what should be yet another solid, veteran core next year? Not to mention over two decades at the helm in SB.

Why would Maryland target a guy who's teeing off on the 18th hole of his career?
 

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Would be really strange timing for Brey. He has the most impressive recruiting haul of his career at ND to compliment what should be yet another solid, veteran core next year? Not to mention over two decades at the helm in SB.

Why would Maryland target a guy who's teeing off on the 18th hole of his career?

I fully agree, but I thought the same with Kelly so nothing is going to surprise me.
 

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I don't think this deserves its own thread yet, but the Maryland 247 writer has heard that they are targeting Brey as one of the candidates to be their next HC. Doesn't make much sense for either party on first glance given his age and team next year, but he does have a ton of Maryland high school connections. Something to monitor.
He turned them down once. Don't remember when but I do remember being worried he might take it. Now I'd hope he would.

Probably just a lazy writer spitballing. Maryland can't possibly think Brey Ball will work in the Big Ten.
 

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He turned them down once. Don't remember when but I do remember being worried he might take it. Now I'd hope he would.

Probably just a lazy writer spitballing. Maryland can't possibly think Brey Ball will work in the Big Ten.
I unequivocally hope he does not accept it; need to keep this recruiting class together. After that, I'm fine with it
 

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Quite the Mike Brey experience last night. Can't wait to repeat it next week.
 

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The bottom line is that we shouldn't be in a position where we are on the bubble several years after signing such a good recruiting class.

The program should have taken off after 2015/16 and did not. I don't want to say Brey should be fired if the team doesn't make the tournament, but if they don't it would be 5 years in a row that they haven't. That is a huge problem and a sign, I think, that change is needed. I would give him another year to turn it around and then move on if he doesn't.

It's also possible that he goes to Maryland or retires or something in the near future.
 
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The bottom line is that we shouldn't be in a position where we are on the bubble several years after signing such a good recruiting class.

The program should have taken off after 2015/16 and did not. I don't want to say Brey should be fired if the team doesn't make the tournament, but if they don't it would be 5 years in a row that they haven't. That is a huge problem and a sign, I think, that change is needed. I would give him another year to turn it around and then move on if he doesn't.

It's also possible that he goes to Maryland or retires or something in the near future.
I mean, they are getting in. You can take that to the bank.

The only question remaining is if it's in the play-in game as one of the last four in or if we are playing in the first round of 64.

But your underlying point is valid; after the two elite 8 appearances, this program should have rode that momentum to new heights but instead faltered and has been an utter disappointment. I suspect he'll ride out his remaining contract through the '24-'25 season and ultimately retire, if not sooner.
 

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Honestly as much as it sucked to lose it might be for the best. We win last night and then lose to UNC we are probably a 8/9/10. Now we are pretty solidly on the 11 line.
Also would be cool to be the team upsetting teams instead of getting no upset for once. Brey has never had that opportunity. He’s never been worse than a 8 seed
 

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The bottom line is that we shouldn't be in a position where we are on the bubble several years after signing such a good recruiting class.

The program should have taken off after 2015/16 and did not. I don't want to say Brey should be fired if the team doesn't make the tournament, but if they don't it would be 5 years in a row that they haven't. That is a huge problem and a sign, I think, that change is needed. I would give him another year to turn it around and then move on if he doesn't.

It's also possible that he goes to Maryland or retires or something in the near future.
Rumor going around that he'll take the Maryland job if offered. Seems that Brey has divorced and remarried in recent years (never saw that anywhere until now) and his wife is from Maryland and hates South Bend.

Could be crazy if he gets it. I'm sure the Maryland offer would be way longer than the 2 years left on his contract at ND. Should Jack extent him?
 

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Rumor going around that he'll take the Maryland job if offered. Seems that Brey has divorced and remarried in recent years (never saw that anywhere until now) and his wife is from Maryland and hates South Bend.

Could be crazy if he gets it. I'm sure the Maryland offer would be way longer than the 2 years left on his contract at ND. Should Jack extent him?
*clears throat*

NO.
 

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If the plan all along was to have Solomon come back to take over for Brey when he retires then nothing to worry about. Elevate him to head coach if Brey leaves.

If not, then make a run at Ingelsby. He’s done pretty darn good at Delaware, taking them to the dance this year. And as far as I can tell, he coached the guards as an assistant here and the guard play hasn’t been nearly as effective since he left.
 

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I won’t be upset if he leaves as it’s probably time, but I just can’t see it. Does he really wanna coach at Maryland and not have his first recruiting class graduate until he’s 68? I never took Brey as a guy to coach into his 70s.
 

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I won’t be upset if he leaves as it’s probably time, but I just can’t see it. Does he really wanna coach at Maryland and not have his first recruiting class graduate until he’s 68? I never took Brey as a guy to coach into his 70s.
He'll have to hit the portal hard. He wouldn't do that at ND. The narrative has him bringing Mike Pegues as a "coach in waiting" as Pegues, the interim Louisville coach isn't getting the L'ville job. He lost almost all his games after taking over. Pegues would take over after a couple years, the story goes. Brey and Pegues are both DeMatha guys.

All seems like a bad idea for all involved to me anyway. Brey is stubborn and won't change. But as ND23 points out the Kelly to LSU thing made no sense either.
 

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Tech needs to see this through, if for nothing else spoiling the nine month retirement party that Coach Rat has been having for himself.
 

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Brey is weak sauce.

Failure at marriage
Since When does ND allow DIVORCED coaches to stay???????

Never got to a Final Four. NEVER

Fat sloppy.

Poster child of what Jack Swarbrick brings to the table.
I see we're going for the any% blocked speedrun this morning.
 

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Quite the Mike Brey experience last night. Can't wait to repeat it next week.
This team is retro Mike Brey. Not that good, overachieve in the regular season, take the first exit in the postseason. Juuuust enough to give us all hope.

Brey can go to Maryland any day now. Then the pressure is on Swarbrick to bring in a great hire who can actually elevate the program to its potential.
 

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Blaming Brey on Jack is a stretch. He didn't hire him. If Brey leaves for a better deal at Maryland I guarentee you there will be an outcry blaming Jack for "losing" Brey. Half the ND fan base loves the guy.
 

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It’s hard to find a good basketball coach. Who would’ve ever thought that Georgetown and Maryland would hit the bottoms they have? I would be completely ambivalent to Brey leaving.
 

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When Brey leaves you immediately move Solomon as the HC. I think he would be really good. Look at how much our defense has improved this season. And I think Solomon can recruit.

I see ND getting in the tournament, but being a one and done.

If only ND could get a running mate with Blake...oh wait we have one with JJ.

Next year will be fun...
 

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These past few days could not have gone much worse for ND.
Bubble teams making deep runs in conference tournaments, and ND leaving a bad final performance out there for the committee.
Seth Davis tweeted that he has us out, and I’m starting to lean that way as well. Hope that I’m wrong, because this has been a fun season, and a tournament appearance can only help recruiting.
 

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Another typical Brey season. Time for new blood.
 

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These past few days could not have gone much worse for ND.
Bubble teams making deep runs in conference tournaments, and ND leaving a bad final performance out there for the committee.
Seth Davis tweeted that he has us out, and I’m starting to lean that way as well. Hope that I’m wrong, because this has been a fun season, and a tournament appearance can only help recruiting.
Good thing Seth Davis isn’t on the committee then.

We are gonna make it. It just most likely will be in a play in game
 
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