Russia Invades Ukraine

[Sea Turtle]

Russian Helicopter had a bad day today.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Russian Air Force s having a really really bad day today

 

[notredomer23]

Russian Air Force s having a really really bad day today

I just came to post something similar. I’ve seen a bunch of different videos today of down helicopters or planes. Something tells me they got some more Stingers

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I just came to post something similar. I’ve seen a bunch of different videos today of down helicopters or planes. Something tells me they got some more Stingers

Manpads as well for sure. The tally appears to be 4 aircraft and 5 helicopters. So far

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Russian troops have advanced into Kherson but doesn’t look like it’s in control.

 

[drayer54]

I mean I have zero doubts an allied Air Force could quickly and edficiently clear the Ukrainian airspace but there would likely be a few incidents and engagements.

Is that enough to provoke a response from Russia? Ok he claims war against NATO. Now what? What is he actually gonna do at that point? He is cut off from the world. He won’t be able to build up his equipment. His country is now on the verge of internal revolt. It’s unlikely other countries would join him.

He started this and the whole world knows it because Biden undercut all his propaganda of intent with real time intel. He invaded anyway. He is shelling the cities and civilian areas. The whole world can see this. His equipment is old and being abandoned on the regular. They are losing generals on the front lines. The whole world can see this. He absolutely will not be able to make a ground incursion into a NATO allied country of any effect. A purely defensive NFZ is a logical response to provide aid and inhibit the use of air space for offensive actions by Putin. He will of course view this as an offensive action but it doesn’t really matter what he thinks or how he publically states he views it. The whole world knows. Would he drop a single nuke somewhere? Where would that be? If he did one, he might as well empty their arsenal because if he drops one he’d be incinerated immediately any way.

If Russia is a rational actor with its nukes that they appear to have been since it fell, I have a very hard time thinking there aren’t control rails on Russias side that would prevent him from doing that in response to a NFZ.

It would be tough for NATO to operate out of the Eastern portion where most of the action is. I do think NATO jets controlling the sky would escalate the war into something where Putin felt like he needed to take action. I do think that NATO owes this to Ukraine as part of the disarmament deal Clinton signed. I do wonder if there is a line where NATO takes action and how many NATO states are already pushing to do this. I know the countries North of Belarus are willing. NATO crossing into the Black Sea would be another game changer. Especially since Vlad’ys mansion is right on the coast.

Russia has apparently been putting more aircraft in harms way. Confirmed casualties from land based air defense has been going up.



Eventually Putin is going to start just throwing bodies at this. With their loss of equipment and fragile supply lines that will lamely go poorly.

He already is. They are Ramzan’s boys from Chechnya. He could care less how many of them die. The Chech forces have had heavy casualties and I believe they are sending more.

This will be the last time I post about this but it’s obvious that there is a small, but real portion of the American population that is sympathetic to Russia and Putin. It’s not mainstream but it is there and it’s vocal as well as there are those who have economic and financial as well as political ties to them in this country…..

I’m not going to post any and all evidence to convince any of the defenders of faith that I’m right and they are wrong and it won’t stop them from arriving on the scene to protect their faith. It’s not going to matter anyway. Ignoring this faction through is true ostrich head in the sand shit. I’m not saying anyone is right or anyone is wrong just posting my thoughts.

John Weaver, MSNBC darling, lobbied for the Russians. You can play this game all day, but I don’t think any sizeable portion of the country is adamant for Putin. I do think some could be quoted prior to the invasion for favorable comments on his perception as a leader, but that would seem to be ignorant of his highly flawed past.

 

[drayer54]

I’ve seen a lot of commentary on the Russian war machines having terrible maintenance and tires. Many trucks seen with evidence of dry rot on the tires. The mud hasn’t helped. China asking them to wait until the Olympics ended may have been the best thing China has done for us. Also- this

 

[BilboBaggins]

John Weaver, MSNBC darling, lobbied for the Russians. You can play this game all day, but I don’t think any sizeable portion of the country is adamant for Putin. I do think some could be quoted prior to the invasion for favorable comments on his perception as a leader, but that would seem to be ignorant of his highly flawed past.

John Weaver, the GOP political consultant who doubled as a Russian lobbyist? That's your retort? LOL

"I don’t think any sizeable portion of the country is adamant for Putin."

I don't think I'd disagree with that, but that is what makes Donald Trump such a cancer. The guy hired Paul fucking Manafort as his campaign chair...a guy who had no US presidential campaign leadership experience, but whose previous role was working as a lobbyist for the very person Putin is trying to put back on the throne in Ukraine. Manafort's own kids thought their dad's income was "blood money" because he was basically hired by Russian oligarchs to help keep Ukraine as an oppressed vassal.

Oh, and then Trump & Manafort removed support for arming Ukraine from the 2016 GOP Platform. It's in writing man. And they kept this platform for 2020 after Trump gobbled on Putin's sack for four years in office.

Just admit that between Trump, Manafort, Flynn, Stone, et al... Trumpism is weirdly pro-Putin. And it is okay to point out that it is out of step with Americans. Thankfully, Trump is seriously losing support in the GOP and our national nightmare may finally be ending.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[NorthDakota]

Trump complemented putin every chance he could get before this. Just look at Helsinki. Hell. Look at his take on Putin's beautiful peacekeepers.

He was making fun of Putin for calling that a peacekeeping force. There is no good faith argument suggesting otherwise so please stop lol. It's embarrassing.

 

[GATTACA!]

I can’t get enough watching the farmers roll off with the Russian equipment.

Gonna make a great John Deere ad.

 

[BilboBaggins]

PS we really need a way to make links be underlined so you can see them. Is that possible?

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

PS we really need a way to make links be underlined so you can see them. Is that possible?

I’ll fix mine. I thought it might be an issue.

 

[BilboBaggins]

He was making fun of Putin for calling that a peacekeeping force. There is no good faith argument suggesting otherwise so please stop lol. It's embarrassing.

You'll know Trump is criticizing Putin when he calls him a low-energy loser. There is no good faith argument suggesting otherwise so please stop lol. It's embarrassing.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This is the nuclear power plant city I believe.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Serious question. If NATO cough cough USA cough were to provide drones to Ukraine, would Russia be able to detect who was actually flying and operating them? I mean sell them to them. Put the UKraine flag on them and let NATO go to work

 

[NorthDakota]

You'll know Trump is criticizing Putin when he calls him a low-energy loser. There is no good faith argument suggesting otherwise so please stop lol. It's embarrassing.

He doesn't think Putin is a loser so he won't be saying that. On a call with John Daly (of all people), he said he likes Vlad. "But I told Vlad I'd bomb Moscow. I dont know if he believed me, but 5-10% belief is all ya need. Told Xi the same."

Also lol at Cack trying to talk about Nick Fuentes like he's some sort of thought leader with influence. He's a weird little creep who has never kissed a girl (his admission, not my accusation). He gets his name in random lib blogs on occasion when they want to portray Republicans as having some indefensible position.

 

[drayer54]

John Weaver, the GOP political consultant who doubled as a Russian lobbyist? That's your retort?

I don’t want Trump in 24’ but I am certainly wise enough to know that Weaver is not a GOP consultant and wasn’t lobbying on behalf of the GOP.
Let me guess, Jen Rubin is a republican? The dumb lady on the view who shilled on CNN as a conservative? Her too? This is as shameless as the Governor of Ukraine, err Georgia, err Stacey Abrams trying to make Ukraine her cause.


I love these people.


Also interesting to see the Russian soldiers posting on instagram. They are so confident and young. Also giving away details of their location to their families. The op-sec is absent.

 

[drayer54]

Serious question. If NATO cough cough USA cough were to provide drones to Ukraine, would Russia be able to detect who was actually flying and operating them? I mean sell them to them. Put the UKraine flag on them and let NATO go to work

I hope that is happening now. Obviously without evidence, but I would be stunned if the US wasn’t providing excellent surveillance reporting to the Ukrainians and services above and beyond what they are saying. I’m wondering if the Russians seeing 3000 Americans in Ukraine volunteering doesn’t make them wonder if they are CIA/military. I saw one was ex-army and talking to us media about his first fire fight with the Russians.

 

[laughingirish90]

should we all boycott pepsi and coca cola because they refuse to stop serving russia. just read a story on this about an hour or so ago here on the net. part of me says yes but i also need my diet pepsi and diet coke

 

[Whiskeyjack]

I am not advocating for "engaging Russia in direct military conflict," I think the status quo of the last 40+ years is that nations fight each other via proxies. This is of course why the Iranian use of proxies was labeled as the "largest state sponsor of terrorism" despite Iran not supporting any Wahhabist BS. Should a nation like Ukraine, overwhelmingly in favor of opposing Russian conquest, not be supported, and funded? They should just fold?

The dichotonomy here is to let a war of conquest, in Europe no less, stand unpunished and create an area wherein the aggressor nation should be kowtowed to...or, oppose them via proxies as was the norm for decades. China/USSR vs US in Vietnam comes to mind. USSR vs US in Afghanistan. US vs Iran in Iraq as well.

The last time the US supported a country against a Russian war of conquest, it bled the Russian Empire 2.0 dry and the USSR collapsed shortly afterward. Today, with Russian Empire 3.0, likely cannot afford to occupy Ukraine. If the Ukrainians are willing to fight, what is the geopolitical downside to helping them?

Then we're in agreement. My position has been: (1) that it's too risky to have NATO forces directly shooting at Russian forces (which is exactly what a No Fly Zone would entail); but (2) we should do everything short of that to support the Ukrainians. As long as we stick to Kennan's Cold War playbook, I'm all for sticking it to Vlad.

 

[NorthDakota]

Serious question. If NATO cough cough USA cough were to provide drones to Ukraine, would Russia be able to detect who was actually flying and operating them? I mean sell them to them. Put the UKraine flag on them and let NATO go to work

I dont know if Russians would be able to tell who the pilots are but that would get in the news quick.

You're advocating for deploying NATO weapons operated by NATO personnel against Russian military personnel.

 

[irishog77]

WNBA star Brittney Griner arrested in Russia on drug charges

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I don’t want Trump in 24’ but I am certainly wise enough to know that Weaver is not a GOP consultant and wasn’t lobbying on behalf of the GOP.
Let me guess, Jen Rubin is a republican? The dumb lady on the view who shilled on CNN as a conservative? Her too? This is as shameless as the Governor of Ukraine, err Georgia, err Stacey Abrams trying to make Ukraine her cause.


I love these people.


Also interesting to see the Russian soldiers posting on instagram. They are so confident and young. Also giving away details of their location to their families. The op-sec is absent.

John Weaver is a registered foreign agent for multiple Russian companies. I can provide you with his FARA records if you want. This means he is legally protected for arguing and lobbying on behalf of the Russian interests.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

I dont know if Russians would be able to tell who the pilots are but that would get in the news quick.

You're advocating for deploying NATO weapons operated by NATO personnel against Russian military personnel.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. Not surprising. I’m not advocating for it. I asked a question would they be able to identify the pilots. I figured the wink was a dead give away. But apparently not. Lol

 

[NorthDakota]

Your reading comprehension is terrible. Not surprising. I’m not advocating for it. I asked a question would they be able to identify the pilots. I figured the wink was a dead give away. But apparently not. Lol

I addressed your question. I said it doesn't matter if they can tell or not because it would get in the news.

So....no. my reading comprehension is perfectly fine.