Coaching Carousel

[Cackalacky2.0]

Cutcliffe reportedly retiring at the end of the season. Dang.

Eh some how Saban will convince him to join as an analyst and therefore Arch manning to Bama.

 

[Dale]

Washington and Virginia Tech are both very attractive jobs and upgrades over the current job for most any of the hot candidates you can think of

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

So the full list of open jobs is:

LSU
USC
Virginia Tech
Washington
TCU
Washington State
Duke
Akron
UMass
FIU

 

[dublinirish]

So the full list of open jobs is:

LSU
USC
Virginia Tech
Washington
TCU
Washington State
Duke
Akron
UMass
FIU

i feel like the pool of available coaches for jobs is terrible. I saw an article about UW's likely candidates and it was just so uninspiring. Their best move is to bring back Petersen and that's not great

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

i feel like the pool of available coaches for jobs is terrible. I saw an article about UW's likely candidates and it was just so uninspiring. Their best move is to bring back Petersen and that's not great

With the lack of college candidates and the amounts of money getting thrown around I wonder if we'll see a lot of movement from the NFL down into college.

 

[drayer54]

Add Fuente to the canned coaches list

ND should hire him as an advisor. Works for the Saban's.

 

[Dale]

Not that he needed more to get canned but the fact Hendon Hooker looks like a NFL prospect for Tennessee and the offensive guy Fuente couldn’t make it work looks really bad. Then again Heupel chose Milton over Hooker to start the year too.

Both guys out of a job Lake and Fuente will have high demand, as long as Lake doesn’t have a stink to him, were pretty damn hot names before their hiring. I could see Lake having a year off

 

[dublinirish]

Not that he needed more to get canned but the fact Hendon Hooker looks like a NFL prospect for Tennessee and the offensive guy Fuente couldn’t make it work looks really bad. Then again Heupel chose Milton over Hooker to start the year too.

Both guys out of a job Lake and Fuente will have high demand, as long as Lake doesn’t have a stink to him, were pretty damn hot names before their hiring. I could see Lake having a year off

someone will want Lake for his recruiting chops i'd bet.

 

[Rogue219]

A good assistant with a bright future got a job before he was ready. The program was in great shape when he inherited it but dealing with the press, managing the locker room and general program building aspects ate him alive.

I don't think Lake makes it through the year even if he didn't shove that player.

Lake ended up being a complete dick who was in over his head, couldn't recruit and had massive personality flaws.

To this point, Freeman is the exact opposite of those three things by every indication.

 

[Rogue219]

i feel like the pool of available coaches for jobs is terrible. I saw an article about UW's likely candidates and it was just so uninspiring. Their best move is to bring back Petersen and that's not great

He's not coming back. Their best move is to try to hire Sitake away from BYU, which is his alma mater, but UW is a P5 job and he'd probably do incredibly well there. Seems like a great fit. Otherwise you go for DeBoer out of Fresno State.

There are plenty of good coaches out there. Not all of them get a shot they deserve. Honestly, how much due diligence do you think Georgia Southern did before they hired Clay Helton for their opening? Probably not a lot. It might end up being a nice hire, and it looks to be on the surface, but I often wonder how much work these schools actually do when going through the process. They usually know who they want, and it's the devil they know more often than not. They want it done fast and they want someone with name recognition for P.R. purposes. Imagine actually interviewing candidates and finding the next guy. It's a radical concept but I'm not naïve enough to think that's how these athletic departments will actually run.

Akron and FIU need to make a Mora/UConn type of hire. Just go find a guy who has been around and would actually want the job. Randy Shannon is an analyst at FSU. Great. FIU should hire him if he'd come. He's 55 years old and NEVER got a second shot after Miami fired him, and considering the circumstances, it doesn't make a lot of sense on the surface. Randy Shannon kept his nose clean as a Cane when they were the bad boys of football, he was told to come in and clean up after Larry Coker which he did but didn't win enough games to their liking, so they fired him. He can't do much worse at FIU than Cristobal, Ron Turner and Butch Davis did.

Akron has to find a D2 or D3 coach that might want the job. Think Lance Leipold type of hire.

 

[Rogue219]

someone will want Lake for his recruiting chops i'd bet.

People at UW within the administration literally compared his recruiting to the Willingham Era.

If anyone wants him, it might mean a return to the NFL for him an assistant, which might be a much better fit

 

[Irish#1]

Freeman will get a call from someone, but I'm not sure he's ready to leave. Not so much about proving anything, but he just strikes me as the type that will be very selective with whom he will interview with. I can see him giving his agent a list of questions he'd like to have answers for before he even interviews with a school.

 

[Rogue219]

Freeman will get a call from someone, but I'm not sure he's ready to leave. Not so much about proving anything, but he just strikes me as the type that will be very selective with whom he will interview with. I can see him giving his agent a list of questions he'd like to have answers for before he even interviews with a school.

Agreed. He's not going to go to Akron but he probably isn't quite ready for Virginia Tech. He's smart. He knew LSU was a shit show and turned them down to come to ND. That's one major decision he absolutely nailed.

Billy Napier has been selective. He's turned down SEC jobs. These opportunities are tough to turn down, but sometimes that's the best thing. You have to calculate your decisions and Freeman is a smart enough guy that I think he's doing that and will continue to do so.

 

[ab2cmiller]

If Fickell were to take another job do you think Freeman would leave for the Cincy job or do you think Freeman is going to be even more selective and willing to wait numerous years for the right job?

 

[Rogue219]

Cutcliffe reportedly retiring at the end of the season. Dang.

I don't know if he'd want it, but Mike Elko would be a great fit for Duke.

Interesting job. Low expectations but Cucliffe proved you could have some respectability there. Losing to Charlotte was rough.

 

[Rogue219]

If Fickell were to take another job do you think Freeman would leave for the Cincy job or do you think Freeman is going to be even more selective and willing to wait numerous years for the right job?

UC is a good job. Recent hires have won there. It wouldn't be a bad gig for Freeman if it got offered to him and he wanted it. Depends on the situation he'd walk into. There is some talent there right now and a lot of it is likely going to the NFL in the next couple of years. He'd have to measure what it would look like.

 

[Dale]

My board perusing combined with gut feeling on Va Tech moving on Fuente even though his buyout drops in a few weeks was directly about one name: Billy Napier. Think they see him as one of their top options and don’t want to not even be in the sweepstakes. It sounds like Napier is a real possibility at TCU while being the obvious floor candidate for LSU. Everyone wants the culture guy.

I’ve seen Jamey Chadwell mentioned as well. Are we sure trying to run that offense is really a plan to win the ACC? Are you hiring him based off his playbook or just overall innovative mind and personality? I’d be surprised if they go G5 offensive mind when that is what Fuente was.

 

[Dale]

With the lack of college candidates and the amounts of money getting thrown around I wonder if we'll see a lot of movement from the NFL down into college.

I think maybe not HCs but more and more coordinators will come from the NFL. The downside is a lot of them will very clearly be there for a short amount of time and have zero interest in recruiting. You’re basically getting a jumpstart more than a permanent fixture. I have no idea about this MacDonald guy from Michigan but that’s turning out okay. Joe Brady. Liam Coen at UK has been a mixed bag but better than what they were doing. All strike me as sides of the ball that were on life support and attempts to infuse some life with a young trendy NFL coach and hope someone else can carry the water after.

 

[Rogue219]

My board perusing combined with gut feeling on Va Tech moving on Fuente even though his buyout drops in a few weeks was directly about one name: Billy Napier. Think they see him as one of their top options and don’t want to not even be in the sweepstakes. It sounds like Napier is a real possibility at TCU while being the obvious floor candidate for LSU. Everyone wants the culture guy.

I’ve seen Jamey Chadwell mentioned as well. Are we sure trying to run that offense is really a plan to win the ACC? Are you hiring him based off his playbook or just overall innovative mind and personality? I’d be surprised if they go G5 offensive mind when that is what Fuente was.

Virginia Tech could do way worse than Napier. In fact I think they just did. To win with what he's had is pretty significant. He's been selective about jobs and has turned a few down. He's been an assistant coach for some heavy hitters. I really like the guy. VT would do well if that's the guy they ended up with. I still think Dykes finds his way to TCU in the end.

When Florida hired Meyer nobody thought that offense would win in the SEC. Saban adapted. Kiffin and Leach are there now.

I look at Chadwell and see the same potential similar story. I actually think that offense would work quite well in the PAC 12 or ACC but he's not a West Coast guy so I'm doubting anyone out there contacts him. He's the lowest paid FBS coach at present and has made quite a lot out of not very much. It's always curious to see what a guy can do with a little more resources. New offenses are always scary and gimmicky until everyone is running them. Is there a bigger copy cat sport?

If Napier and Chadwell can't jump from G5 right to Virginia Tech or anywhere else P5, what is supposed to be the next step on the resume for them then?

The idea that because Fuente fell on his face they can't hire another G5 coach seems incredibly shortsighted to me but that's their right to hire within that process if they choose. I guess if they can get Dave Clawson or a Clemson assistant, have at it. Something tells me those Clemson guys are not budging anytime soon.

 

[Dale]

Not saying Chadwell would be bad because Fuente was but that in general is a common hiring practice. To not replicate the type of coach you just fired. Go offense then defense. CEO then play caller . Out of towner then in state etc

Definitely a copy cat league but one thing that the big boys have never copied is triple option, and Chadwell’s offense is teetering that line between how far RPO can go before you’re closer to straight option principles.

 

[NDohio]

Not saying Chadwell would be bad because Fuente was but that in general is a common hiring practice. To not replicate the type of coach you just fired. Go offense then defense. CEO then play caller . Out of towner then in state etc

Definitely a copy cat league but one thing that the big boys have never copied is triple option, and Chadwell’s offense is teetering that line between how far RPO can go before you’re closer to straight option principles.

Sort of agree. I think the glaring difference between the two though is personality. Va Tech needs a guy to come in and spark that program. Fuente is a good coach but he doesn't have much personality. Chadwell has that.

 

[Dale]

Sort of agree. I think the glaring difference between the two though is personality. Va Tech needs a guy to come in and spark that program. Fuente is a good coach but he doesn't have much personality. Chadwell has that.

That would be I think Chadwell’s big question with any job. If you interview him and the pitch is mainly my playbook I do all these things etc. Pass. If it’s innovative, resourceful, energy etc then you’re hiring that not really the offense, which is fine if that’s where you think the goods truly are.

 

[Rogue219]

Not saying Chadwell would be bad because Fuente was but that in general is a common hiring practice. To not replicate the type of coach you just fired. Go offense then defense. CEO then play caller . Out of towner then in state etc

Definitely a copy cat league but one thing that the big boys have never copied is triple option, and Chadwell’s offense is teetering that line between how far RPO can go before you’re closer to straight option principles.

The thing about Chadwell is that his progression has been somewhat natural. He started out as a Division II OC, then DII head coach, then the Coastal Carolina OC and now he's at Coastal Carolina. That's paying your dues and working your way up. I don't think there is a lot of value placed in that anymore in most professions, especially this one.

He's 44 years old. Maybe he needs a job at an AAC or CUSA school first and I think he had a couple of minor NCAA runs in at Charleston Southern, but he knows the region and if his time isn't close it is probably coming. Being that he is a lifelong Tennessee fan (he named his son Heath after Heath Shuler), maybe he's waiting for that one to open up when the time is right.

All that I have read and seen about him makes me very intrigued. I think he's just as much of a culture guy as Napier. Mullets, WWE locker room celebrations, fun offense. He's not a yeller and screamer either. I think he gets the players today and that's important.

We shall see.

 

[Irish#1]

Colin Coward mentioned he's hearing Lincoln Riley as a candidate for LSU. He doesn't believe them, but he's heard them. Given OU is going to the SEC, I'm not sure that would be a wise move. OU administration and fans will give you a longer leash than LSU.

 

[Dale]

Colin Coward mentioned he's hearing Lincoln Riley as a candidate for LSU. He doesn't believe them, but he's heard them. Given OU is going to the SEC, I'm not sure that would be a wise move. OU administration and fans will give you a longer leash than LSU.

Tell all the OU fans demanding he give up play calling and calling him a b**** in his pressers that lol

 

[Dale]

[TWEET]https://twitter.com/justinthind/status/1461010007433138189?s=21[/TWEET]

 

[anarin]

Michigan State pulling their best Charlie Weis move.

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Michigan State pulling their best Charlie Weis move.

Did he almost beat the best team in the country? lol

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Michigan State pulling their best Charlie Weis move.

I liked Tucker ever since I watched him completely outcoach Harbaugh and beat Michigan with a markedly inferior team in 2020. But I do not think his success in 2021 can be replicated on anything like a consistent basis.

 

[Irish#1]

Tell all the OU fans demanding he give up play calling and calling him a b**** in his pressers that lol

I said longer. I didn't say how much longer.