We tackle like ****, so Freeman must quit

[ulukinatme]

Not serious, but kinda worried. Just thought I'd get in front of this one before this one goes the way of BVG.
Not saying Freeman will do that...but hey, BVG even looked pretty good in the beginning.
We definitely have some stuff to clean up. What was with all the 3 down linemen when they were gashing us on the ground and the LBs weren't performing great? How did we go from such a stout defense to porous with most of the same cast? Lots of questions to answer.

 

[ACamp1900]

Welcome back to notre dame football,… we remember you from 1989,…..

 

[ulukinatme]

Welcome back to notre dame football,… we remember you from 1989,…..

Someone had to make the thread with Koon banned

 

[ACamp1900]

Someone had to make the thread with Koon banned

I’m your boy,… I’m just responding to the title with a grin on my face

 

[spoonidentity]

I know you're joking - but as I said in another post and confirmed with some Google - teams were doing he's tackling this camp and we need to change how we approach this.

https://www.ncaa.org/about/resource...rsight-committee-recommends-preseason-changes

 

[Irishize]

While the run defense was infuriating the big plays ND gave up weren’t surprising. Lea played a “bend don’t break” scheme & was a wizard at halftime adjustments. ND fans knew they were getting a totally different defensive philosophy why they won the Marcus Freeman sweepstakes. Aggressive defensive scheme is fun to watch when running on all cylinders. But this was Game One in the new system and we should’ve all expected some big plays to be given up. The long run in the first half & that beautiful 3rd down pass by Travis down the sideline were two examples of what can happen in man coverage when a defense is aggressively blitzing.

That said, it doesn’t excuse the Rush 3 philosophy that allowed FSU back in the game. That was so frustrating. Based on tonight’s performance, Freeman’s former team will embarrass his defense w/ Ridder at the helm. They better hit the film room ASAP.

Get used to the aggressive defense b/c that’s what we signed up for w/ Freeman. Hopefully the stops outnumber the big busted plays by a large margin.

 

[Edge]

I believe defense will be fine

what is concerning is Fisher injury combined with rushing for 65 yds at a 1.9 yds per

with those backs that has to be better

 

[greyhammer90]

Bottom line, giving up 18 points in the 4th is abysmal. Whatever you think the cause was, scheme, tackling, turtling, etc., that cannot happen. I have a lot of hope for Freeman as a DC but this game was the first pure defensive outcome since Vangorder that I would describe as unacceptable.

 

[irishandy]

I believe defense will be fine

what is concerning is Fisher injury combined with rushing for 65 yds at a 1.9 yds per

with those backs that has to be better

ND lost 4 starters from last year....and last night you could tell they were missed. Can't blame just the backs for 1.9 yards per rush. Our o-line needs to make those holes, I think Blake is going to be damn good for ND, I hope his injury is not serious, but if he isn't ready for big time college football, let's talk about him next year.

 

[ulukinatme]

ND lost 4 starters from last year....and last night you could tell they were missed. Can't blame just the backs for 1.9 yards per rush. Our o-line needs to make those holes, I think Blake is going to be damn good for ND, I hope his injury is not serious, but if he isn't ready for big time college football, let's talk about him next year.

Big Fish was just fine when he was in. In fact the left side of the OL was pretty good. Right side seemed to be getting pushed back the most. Supposedly coach BK said the injury was minor, not MCL or ACL, more like a tweak. Could miss some time to be careful, but I would guess he's back by Wisconsin or sooner. I agree with you that the OL needs work though, not the backs.

 

[GUknights75]

Big Fish was just fine when he was in. In fact the left side of the OL was pretty good. Right side seemed to be getting pushed back the most. Supposedly coach BK said the injury was minor, not MCL or ACL, more like a tweak. Could miss some time to be careful, but I would guess he's back by Wisconsin or sooner. I agree with you that the OL needs work though, not the backs.

He actually did say it was a MCL/ACL strain that requires an MRI. He wasnt worried it was serious though.

 

[ulukinatme]

He actually did say it was a MCL/ACL strain that requires an MRI. He wasnt worried it was serious though.

Yeah, sorry, just meant it's not a tear from what they've seen.

 

[ryno 24]

Yes I was annoyed in the fourth quarter but there were things I really like bout this defense. They will get better as the year moves forward. I didnt like how tired they got and that they were not assignment correct at the end of the game and gave up the edge.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

Im waiting until a few games to pass judgement. Road game, prime time, traveled far, Sunday game, significant injuries during th egame and down a few starters to start. Best outcome as far as Im concerned. Need some game time to get hard. LFG.

 

[ulukinatme]

Still not sold. 3rd and 15, VT QB's throwing arm is injured and we let him run it in for a TD. Tackling has just been bad today.

 

[Irish du Nord]

Still not sold. 3rd and 15, VT QB's throwing arm is injured and we let him run it in for a TD. Tackling has just been bad today.

What I don't understand is why we haven't had a spy on him all game. We've had enough pressure, and their QB has been really successful at extending those plays.

 

[irishff1014]

Still not sold. 3rd and 15, VT QB's throwing arm is injured and we let him run it in for a TD. Tackling has just been bad today.

Tackling has been terrible all season.

 

[T-Boone]

that Cam Hart miss on 3rd and about 5 short was embarrassing for him. A worse play than the pick 6.
He should not turn up to that podcast this week. He had a bad game all around.

 

[Irish#1]

This D forces guys into one on one situations in space. You need to be able to tackle when you put your guys in those situations.

VT ‘s conversion rate on 3rd down was almost automatic.

 

[Cackalacky2.0]

This D forces guys into one on one situations in space. You need to be able to tackle when you put your guys in those situations.

VT ‘s conversion rate on 3rd down was almost automatic.

This same D has held opponents up to yesterday to less than 25% on 3rd downs.

this game ND was 3/12 on 3rd and VT was 8/17 with a week to prepare. Also ND generated 1 TO and 1 sack

 

[Irish#1]

I would take 8 of 17 all day long if I’m the OC. The key is the defense has been inconsistent and tackling has been poor.

 

[AvesEvo]

This same D has held opponents up to yesterday to less than 25% on 3rd downs.

this game ND was 3/12 on 3rd and VT was 8/17 with a week to prepare. Also ND generated 1 TO and 1 sack

1 sack... it does seem like ND is really struggling to get pressure.

 

[stpeteirish]

Lb's didn't miss any by my eyes but the CB's (Lewis, Bracy, and Hart) all missed at least one.

 

[stpeteirish]

1 sack... it does seem like ND is really struggling to get pressure.

Oh we're getting pressure. But the Tech QB just ran away from it, almost every time. DE's do not maintain the edge. MTA is particularly bad at this.

 

[ACamp1900]

Oh we're getting pressure. But the Tech QB just ran away from it, almost every time. DE's do not maintain the edge. MTA is particularly bad at this.

We’ve also seen nothing but our QBs shifting right into pressure which has jaded all of us

 

[NDdomer2]

You would like to see some more reward for our risk tho. 1 sack with multiple pressures that we didn't contain isn't really worth the risk but maybe the alternative is just getting marched on left and right?!?

 

[Bluto]

DE's do not maintain the edge. MTA is particularly bad at this.

Makes sense given he’s a defensive tackle. Having Foskey blitz as a linebacker for all intents and purposes probably isn’t helping either.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah, if our DEs were containing it would certainly help when some of these QBs like VT's try to escape the pocket and extend plays.

 

[Irish#1]

One thing I'm not seeing is Freeman making many adjustments and when he does, it's usually after halftime. You might score on Lea on the first series or maybe the first quarter, but after that, he strangled you.

 

[ulukinatme]

Garbage tackling. Guys are out of position. Too many big plays.