'12 FL ATH Nelson Agholor (USC Signee)

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No no no my friend, you are overrating his worth. From afar he looked very good, but he was plagued by drops, fumbles, and he's not very big.

Not to say he can't be great, I'm just saying, every mock and every analyst has him as going in the 2nd round at the highest, most likely late 2nd-3rd round. He's like the 7th-10th best WR they say. Things could change with the combine and you could definitely turn out to be right, but right now his talent isn't deemed as high as most Irish fans think.

Thanks L.A, maybe I am overvaluing him. I just know his speed and athleticism is in the upper tier of WRs. Doesn't matter if he can't catch the ball.

I haven't watched his career except when he plays against the Irish so I'll take your word for it.
 

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Thanks L.A, maybe I am overvaluing him. I just know his speed and athleticism is in the upper tier of WRs. Doesn't matter if he can't catch the ball.

I haven't watched his career except when he plays against the Irish so I'll take your word for it.

He's definitely a big time prospect, but it's more the case that as a WR the whole is less than the sum of it's parts. He definitely put up big numbers this year, but hasn't proven to be "the guy" that could put the team on his back when SC needed someone to step up. Mike Floyd was that for us, which is the quality you need to see to be a 1st round caliber player.

That being said I could very well see him being an absolute steal in the 2nd round.
 

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From all accounts he's a really stand up guy, and I remember rooting for him to do well with his backstory and how he's overcome adversity. I really hope this is another Patrick Kane scenario where he's innocent, but if he's guilty he deserves it all to be taken away
 

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A stripper huh? Interesting. Not saying what happened as I have no idea, but I doubt he sexually assaulted anyone.

He doesn't need to, pussy falls in his lap. It is like the girl who called rape on Kobe...right? Like Kobe needs to rape anyone.
 

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A stripper huh? Interesting. Not saying what happened as I have no idea, but I doubt he sexually assaulted anyone.

He doesn't need to, pussy falls in his lap. It is like the girl who called rape on Kobe...right? Like Kobe needs to rape anyone.

That was consensual, just statutory
 

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Would you make the same bet if he was a Cowboy?

What does the team have to do with the price of rice in China? Rape is rape. A money grabbing whore looking to use the system for his money is something else.

Not knowing any facts...I tend to lean towards the latter.
 

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'12 FL ATH Nelson Agholor (USC Signee)

What does the team have to do with the price of rice in China? Rape is rape. A money grabbing whore looking to use the system for his money is something else.



Not knowing any facts...I tend to lean towards the latter.



He's an Eagle fan, so I made a hypothetical where Agholor plays for a team Philly hates. I could have used Redskins or Giants, and the question is the same. I don't know anything about this situation, but know personally I'd be saying "money grubber" if it was a Bear, and "scumbag" if it was a Packer without knowing anything. That's how fandom works.
 
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What does the team have to do with the price of rice in China? Rape is rape. A money grabbing whore looking to use the system for his money is something else.

Not knowing any facts...I tend to lean towards the latter.

Since as you said you don't know any facts maybe don't throw around things like "money grabbing whore."

I also don't know any facts which is why I won't say presumptuous and offensive things towards either the accused or the accuser.
 

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Since as you said you don't know any facts maybe don't throw around things like "money grabbing whore."

I also don't know any facts which is why I won't say presumptuous and offensive things towards either the accused or the accuser.

Let me restate it for you...I think she was a money grabbing whore.

Now we can be friends.
 

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He doesn't need to, pussy falls in his lap. It is like the girl who called rape on Kobe...right? Like Kobe needs to rape anyone.

No one needs to rape whether women are throwing themselves at someone or not. That's why it's illegal.

Not to mention those types of guys still rape women every year.

U should just stop on the subject as u clearly are going down the slippery slope.
 

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A stripper huh? Interesting. Not saying what happened as I have no idea, but I doubt he sexually assaulted anyone.

He doesn't need to, pussy falls in his lap. It is like the girl who called rape on Kobe...right? Like Kobe needs to rape anyone.

I'm not saying this in response to Kobe or Nelson, more in general. Rapists don't necessarily rape because they have to. They whole line about, guys like so and so don't need to rape anyone is very misleading, IMO. Just because they don't have to, doesn't mean they won't. Two completely different scenarios.
 

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I'm not saying this in response to Kobe or Nelson, more in general. Rapists don't necessarily rape because they have to. They whole line about, guys like so and so don't need to rape anyone is very misleading, IMO. Just because they don't have to, doesn't mean they won't. Two completely different scenarios.

That is a good point. Bill Cosby might be a good example. One would think he could have easily cheated on his wife...yet he chose to drug and rape.
 

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When are these guys going to learn that all these places are trouble. SMH

No shit. If i'm a professional athlete, the last place i'm going is a strip club. Nothing good happens when you mix partying and paid "talent".
 

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No shit. If i'm a professional athlete, the last place i'm going is a strip club. Nothing good happens when you mix partying and paid "talent".

Sincerely, if I have that much money. I pay them to come to me and I pay people to make sure that never happens. That's if it's that important for me to do those actions. So many ways to get around it with that money.
 

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That was consensual, just statutory

Have a friend from Colorado who went to St. Mary's while I was at ND around the same time the Kobe situation happened...She actually knew the girl and said that she didn't believe the story for one second...not saying it wasn't but that girl's reputation locally was shit....Kobe didn't need to nor did he imo
 

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Sincerely, if I have that much money. I pay them to come to me and I pay people to make sure that never happens. That's if it's that important for me to do those actions. So many ways to get around it with that money.

I can kinda understand this. You can invite who you want,hire you own security firm, and makes sure every time you have any kind of contact with a dancer it is on camera.
 

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Have a friend from Colorado who went to St. Mary's while I was at ND around the same time the Kobe situation happened...She actually knew the girl and said that she didn't believe the story for one second...not saying it wasn't but that girl's reputation locally was shit....Kobe didn't need to nor did he imo

Well, I am not going to comment on the did he or didn't he aspect. I can tell you that we had great Sacramento Kings season tickets at the time; half-court about 7 rows back and the half-row directly in front of us was reserved for the opposing teams wives. Shortly after the Colorado incident the Lakers came here to Sactown and holy shit-- to this day I have never seen a diamond that big. Not. Even. Close.

Easily a multi-seven figure stone. Bigger than many if not most I've seen in natural history museums.

EDIT: Here it is: Kobe Bryant Wife Apology Ring – Style News - StyleWatch - People.com

$4 million.. so I was right there with my laymen appraisal.

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Such a useless player.


The worst starting player in the NFL. He shouldn't be in the league. Forget about his hands, was supposed to be a speedy receiver that gets absolutely no separation ever. Wouldn't see the field on Todd Pinkston and Freddie Mitchell's eagles.
 
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