'14 IL ILB Nyles Morgan (Notre Dame Signee)

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Damn bruh, Keith doesn't even have a practice report up yet. ;)

Notre Dame 2016 Spring Practice Report: Kizer Wins the First Open Practice - One Foot Down
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To the entire board :

I want to apologize to Eric Murtagh, for completely bungling the attribution of the launch gif! It was sloppy and thoughtless. Further, not only has Mr. Murtagh contributed substantially to this board, but his articles have been insightful and well written at 247, and he was a gentleman in pointing out my guffaw, without going all Annie Apple on me!

Just kidding, I follow you at One Foot Down!

My posting here may be more representative of a slightly different gif :

 
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I'm still upset we didn't get to see Jaylon and Morgan blitz on a 3rd and long together. I'll never get over that.
 
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I'm not even really sure who's fault it is or who to be mad at, but I'm mad. Reading how well he's playing this spring bothers me. There's just no way he wasn't a better player than Schmidt last year. Was it BK's call or BVG? What a difference this guy would have made last year.

One of my biggest gripes in the BK era is his personal love for certain players out-weighing on field performance. It happened with Tommy, it happened with Cam, and it happened with Joe Schmidt. If these guys are such great individuals and leaders, than let them lead and support from the sidelines when there's clearly more talent behind them.

Everyone saw flashes of Morgan as a freshman when he was forced to play. He was clearly out of place but I'm sorry, there's no way you can convince me that Joe was better than Nyles last year.
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Again, BVG was most responsible for getting Shaun Crawford to reconsider after Bob Diaco turned him down flat, when ND was his dream school, and absolute goal. Also, BVG was instrumental in bringing in Coleman, and most of the underclass defensive linemen on the roster. The only time Diaco brought anyone under 6'3" for the trenches is Sheldon Day. I think Bobby D would have been overridden on that one, anyways.

And from Morgan's freshman year, he couldn't be counted on to be assignment correct. Maybe benching last year was intentional, as a means of getting him to develop the discipline and motivation to succeed?

Finally, some of us remember a linebacker who hadn't a clue his freshman and the beginning of his sophomore year, by all reports. He ended up pretty good. In just over his last two and a half years, he became ND's all-time leading tackler, Bob Crable.

I am not upset about last season, but I would be pretty honked off if Nyles doesn't dominate for the next two seasons!
 
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To me, an extremely important detail is that Nyles was not next man in. The staff felt more comfortable throwing in a true freshman (Coney) than the kid with more experience and physical development. Even when Coney went down, Nyles still wasn't on the field. The staff just did not trust him to play last year. I think that says more about Nyles than it does the BVG et al.
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Was Nyles redshirted last year?
 
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This post may contain the most significant sourced video evidence to date.

Maybe it was coach speak, but did you see how there was a theme, in Nyles own words, about how coming in he thought he knew what he needed to know? And didn't a number of people comment on Nyles arrogance?

Back in my day, there was a kid on my high school squad the got demoted off the first team every week his entire career, except for his senior year. But by game time he (usually) was back on it. In his case it was a motor mouth, a need to redirect his bad attitude, and focus it on the opponent, and his arrogance.

It was much like what I see happening with Morgan last season. These kind of coaching interventions are the only option for some personalities. And with them, it is a 100% effective tool. I know because I was the kid on my high school squad.

And Morgan sounds totally different than at any time in the past. He seems to have developed a humility, and a team orientation, with beaucoup leadership capabilities.
 
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Well, if anyone understands what goes in to being a LB, it's Reggie Brooks....

I'm not overly concerned with who you're going to go with. The cover-up of "he's always in the right position" was just that. He consistently filled the wrong gap on runs, and on more than one occasion was in a dead sprint with his back to the quarterback because he blew his assignment coverage. Not to mention, how important is it to be in the right position if you're not going to make the play regardless? Being in the right spot and not making the play does what?

If BK and BVG say he's always in position, all of the minions that "cover" games will say the same things. His senior year, Joe was not a good football player. Between his injury slowing him down even more and teams avoiding Jaylon, he was exposed each and every week. The staffs decision to keep Nyles off the field is mind boggling to me.
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After this post I am thinking :

Well, if anyone understands what goes in to being a LB, it's Irish Man3....
 
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we're still getting over tommy rees
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I'm so glad the members on this board are too young to comment on the glory years. Those guys would have gone batshat crazy over Rick Mirer & Ron Powlus not living up to their promised hype. Hell, half would have said Tony Rice stunk because he couldn't spin it.
 
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koonja said:
He did play on special teams. I'd be upset about the non-RS if you're not going to let him play defense, but I think he's a 4 year and NFL player anyway so IDK if it mattered.
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NFL player? He needs to build a body of work first doesn't he?
 
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NFL player? He needs to build a body of work first doesn't he?
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For me to think he'll be a NFL draft pick after 2 more years? No.

BK said he pulled Jay Hayes' RS 2 years ago because he was a 4 year guy anyway, and Jay hadn't played college yet.
 
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I'm so glad the members on this board are too young to comment on the glory years. Those guys would have gone batshat crazy over Rick Mirer & Ron Powlus not living up to their promised hype. Hell, half would have said Tony Rice stunk because he couldn't spin it.
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Can you imagine the apocalypse over the Pinkett, Pinkett, Pass, Punt Offense?
 
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Bogtrotter07 said:
After this post I am thinking :

Well, if anyone understands what goes in to being a LB, it's Irish Man3....
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Certainly didn't mean for it to read like that. My point is just that a lot of times, people that are affiliated with the university and that cover the games, hand down the same coach speak that they hear in interviews. Reggie Brooks is a perfect example of that.

Very legitimate question here: who exactly was Joe Schmidt responsible for lining up correctly last year? ND had upperclassmen all across the defensive line, veteran experience and a first round pick along side him, and juniors and seniors behind him in the secondary. Where was he making changes? Outside of the typical pre-snap communication, I don't recall Schmidt doing a whole lot of redirecting.
 
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Irish Man3 said:
Certainly didn't mean for it to read like that. My point is just that a lot of times, people that are affiliated with the university and that cover the games, hand down the same coach speak that they hear in interviews. Reggie Brooks is a perfect example of that.

Very legitimate question here: who exactly was Joe Schmidt responsible for lining up correctly last year? ND had upperclassmen all across the defensive line, veteran experience and a first round pick along side him, and juniors and seniors behind him in the secondary. Where was he making changes? Outside of the typical pre-snap communication, I don't recall Schmidt doing a whole lot of redirecting.
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Of course all the communication will be pre-snap. But the defense called in the huddle can change with a certain formation, shift, stem, or motion. I'm thinking that's what he was primarily charged with.
 
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kmoose said:
Can you imagine the apocalypse over the Pinkett, Pinkett, Pass, Punt Offense?
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LOL Damn that late bloomin' Buerlein!

Until the '85 season my weekends Pinkett, Payton or Punt. There used to be Bears shirts from the late 70's or early 80's that said:

Payton
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IrishLion said:
I always try to catch it on the radio as we leave South Bend after the game, but the reception on the post-game channels is absolutely terrible... or else I'm missing the "good" channel to catch it on.
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I'm usually listening to it online at und.com.
 
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Irish Man3 said:
Very legitimate question here: who exactly was Joe Schmidt responsible for lining up correctly last year? ND had upperclassmen all across the defensive line, veteran experience and a first round pick along side him, and juniors and seniors behind him in the secondary. Where was he making changes? Outside of the typical pre-snap communication, I don't recall Schmidt doing a whole lot of redirecting.
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If you want to argue that Joe Schmidt was not a good LB last season, you might as well go lock yourself in the bathroom and talk to yourself. I don't think anyone is going to argue that he was.
 
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Irish Man3 said:
Certainly didn't mean for it to read like that. My point is just that a lot of times, people that are affiliated with the university and that cover the games, hand down the same coach speak that they hear in interviews. Reggie Brooks is a perfect example of that.

Very legitimate question here: who exactly was Joe Schmidt responsible for lining up correctly last year? ND had upperclassmen all across the defensive line, veteran experience and a first round pick along side him, and juniors and seniors behind him in the secondary. Where was he making changes? Outside of the typical pre-snap communication, I don't recall Schmidt doing a whole lot of redirecting.
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I need answers for this too. I just don't believe NO ONE ELSE on the field didn't know where to line up. Not believing it.
 
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NDLightning35 said:
How long will the Joe Schmidt debate continue on IE? Over/Under 3 years
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dublinirish said:
we're still getting over tommy rees
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No italics needed. Joe is the new Tommy, although probably worse in some respects because Joe really struggled at times in 2015 and it's questionable if the players behind him wouldn't have performed better on the field (Unlike who we had behind Tommy in 2013 and 2011...there was no question Tommy was the best we had at the time).

In the end it's alright to be critical of our LB play, but at some point we need to just let it go and remember he was a student athlete playing to the best of his ability for our university. Criticizing him well after he's left the field isn't going to change history, he gave everything he had and it's unfair to beat a dead horse.
 
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