Anyone Watching "Walking Dead" on AMC?

[johnnycando]

JTLA:

For such an antigun guy, I enjoy the fact you're so wrapped up in this series...

Awesome troll job. World. Class.

 

[GBdomer]

JTLA:

For such an antigun guy, I enjoy the fact you're so wrapped up in this series...

Awesome troll job. World. Class.

If he was trolling then I should just take a lap

 

[Irish YJ]

JTLA:

For such an antigun guy, I enjoy the fact you're so wrapped up in this series...

Awesome troll job. World. Class.

He actually prefers long wood (like Morgan)

 

[johnnycando]

If he was trolling then I should just take a lap

I think he just trolls.

Everywhere.

lol.

I mean how else, so blatant?

 

[phork]

This. I could very well see them trying to throw the comic readers a curve ball (Like they do on occasion) and make it NOT be Glenn that gets the wrong end of Lucille. Part of me does think it could be Abraham for that very reason, and the fact they switched his death with Denise's a few episodes ago. That said, I hope they stick with the original story line and kill Glenn. Killing Abraham doesn't make as big of an impact, killing Glenn would touch off more fans and from a story perspective it would affect more people I think.

My feeling is that if its Glenn they would have just shown it. There is ta-da moment come season 7 and Glenn is dead. Everyone knew it was Glenn in the comic.

LOLLLLLL - Who has widely held this? You are out of your mind.
The user score on Metacritic is 8.1 for season 1, vs 6.2 for this season
Rotten tomatoes score drops from 91% positive to 82% in this season
IMDB users rated this episode 7.3, which is the 2nd lowest of all time.

As for critics, I'll let the LA Times sum it up best...
As 'Walking Dead' heads toward a season finale, it's also stumbling off an expectations cliff - LA Times

Look, I'm sorry for being such a jackass. I can promise you this, that was terrible writing. And that was the last episode of this show I will watch. So you are correct on that accord. I'm just so dissappointed.

And it was Glenn. Stop arguing about this. I know for a fact it was Glenn.
Glenn is dead. It's not 40% or 3:1 or maybe sort of.

It's Glenn. Glenn is dead.

Stop it.

Here's another good review.

The Walking Dead season 6 finale: "Last Day on Earth" is the worst episode the show has ever done - Vox

I think people are trying to look too far into things. I think you have to keep in mind that every group our friends have run into that were perceived threats were dispatched in fairly short order.
This episode was to illustrate how Rick totally under estimated, based on previous results, the Saviors and this "Negan's" strength.

Now don't get me wrong I am no show apologist. I find it funny how the whole gang saddled up because Maggie is having a miscarriage. At this point in the pregnancy there isn't much you can do. But heh Carol and Daryll are already gone, lets lose Morgan and the better part of anyone who was battle tested and leave Alexandria virtually defenseless.

 

[ClausentoTate]

This episode was to illustrate how Rick totally under estimated, based on previous results, the Saviors and this "Negan's" strength.

Now don't get me wrong I am no show apologist. I find it funny how the whole gang saddled up because Maggie is having a miscarriage. At this point in the pregnancy there isn't much you can do. But heh Carol and Daryll are already gone, lets lose Morgan and the better part of anyone who was battle tested and leave Alexandria virtually defenseless.

This. They stopped having characters use common sense a while ago. Part of it, I think, has to do with the transformation of the group from always trying to find a peaceful solution to going in guns blazing. It's been a subtle change and the threats have been imminent, but they could have been avoided.

I see it all kind of summed up in the parallel paths taken by Rick and Shane. Rick and the group have lost their humanity and that's why they don't think straight. Carol is the only one that seems to want to go a different direction.

Honestly, if they had any sense they would have gone back to the prison or the Governor's town once Eugene spilled the beans. But no, let's go to a super densely populated area that has major government firepower and stay despite numerous attacks because they have a nice wall... that needs to be repaired and has human-sized holes all around. lol. They also wouldn't randomly try and sacrifice themselves for no reason every other episode.

Oh well. Honestly I've given up on it being drama and just expect sci-fi nonsense, which is alright by me. Can't take stupid things in the show personally. Cliffhangers piss me off, but that's how you get more seasons and viewers.

 

[gkIrish]

What do you think would have happened if they decided to get into a shootout with the first group of Saviors (the ones kicking the shit out of that guy)? I don't think there were more than about a dozen Saviors in that group so I think Rick's group could have taken them out without suffering more than a casualty or two.

I guess my next question would be whether they would still run into the other groups or whether that would have cleared a path to the Hilltop.

 

[jspags10pg]

I found this interesting. I personally hope this is the case but I don't think the writers of TWD have shown to be this clever or deep in their story telling. But it is a very interesting and well thought out theory.

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[beryirish]

What do you think would have happened if they decided to get into a shootout with the first group of Saviors (the ones kicking the shit out of that guy)? I don't think there were more than about a dozen Saviors in that group so I think Rick's group could have taken them out without suffering more than a casualty or two.

I guess my next question would be whether they would still run into the other groups or whether that would have cleared a path to the Hilltop.

I was thinking this too that the first group was much smaller than all the other groups they came across afterwards. I was just curious who that guy was. Did he come from the Hilltop or another place. Didn't look Alexandrian to me.

My first hunch was that it was Abraham. Just surprised, if it is, that they just pushed back his death 3 episodes. Why not just stick to the comic and kill him then...

So as much as I like Glen I think it would be fantastic if the show sticks to the comics for this one scene as everyone has said, Glen's death will be felt by everyone.

 

[koonja]

What do you think would have happened if they decided to get into a shootout with the first group of Saviors (the ones kicking the shit out of that guy)? I don't think there were more than about a dozen Saviors in that group so I think Rick's group could have taken them out without suffering more than a casualty or two.

I guess my next question would be whether they would still run into the other groups or whether that would have cleared a path to the Hilltop.

I think the other groups/group as a whole would have found out what happened and slaughtered the crew. But at that first road block, I was also thinking the same thing. Every road block after that was moreim

 

[woolybug25]

I found this interesting. I personally hope this is the case but I don't think the writers of TWD have shown to be this clever or deep in their story telling. But it is a very interesting and well thought out theory.

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That is pretty interesting. Carol is such a completely different character in the show than the comics, so they could really create any storyline they want at this point. Interestingly enough, the guilt she would feel by the scenario proposed in the clip, could actually lead her to the same end game as the comics. Just brought on by a different type of grief.

 

[ulukinatme]

What do you think would have happened if they decided to get into a shootout with the first group of Saviors (the ones kicking the shit out of that guy)? I don't think there were more than about a dozen Saviors in that group so I think Rick's group could have taken them out without suffering more than a casualty or two.

I guess my next question would be whether they would still run into the other groups or whether that would have cleared a path to the Hilltop.

My guess is the Saviors had more than what they were showing in that first group. People have speculated that the first group may have had more hiding in the trees, but again that's all speculation. The idea is that the Saviors obviously have numbers, and they've been keeping an eye on Alexandria so they know how many left the complex. By showing a smaller number they can test the waters with Rick's group, and if it goes south they've got backup hiding in the trees along the road. Either way, Rick knows he needs his people and isn't going to needlessly sacrifice them, so suffering a few needless casualties in this war isn't a wise move. He said he wanted to do things on their own terms, which usually means stealing in during the night and launching a surprise attack.

I was just curious who that guy was. Did he come from the Hilltop or another place. Didn't look Alexandrian to me.

I believe they said he came from a library, which I believe is the same place Carol holed up when she was injured. It sounds like that library was part of a small settlement that the Saviors had conquered and they people decided to fight back. The "librarian" was the last of his group, and they used him as an example to Rick to show what happens to people that fight back against the Saviors.

 

[ulukinatme]

I know who it was...

 

[gkIrish]

Can someone explain the relationship between the Saviors and Hilltop to me?

It seems to me that they were aware of Negan but unaware of how many people he had following him? Had they met Negan beforehand? If not, why were they handing over 50% of their shit to a relatively small group?

 

[ulukinatme]

Can someone explain the relationship between the Saviors and Hilltop to me?

It seems to me that they were aware of Negan but unaware of how many people he had following him? Had they met Negan beforehand? If not, why were they handing over 50% of their shit to a relatively small group?

Hilltop are pussies, for one, and they have nothing other than spears to fight back with. Hilltop's leader is also a douche who only has the balls to stand up to Maggie when he thinks he has the upper hand. They basically caved without a fight, until Rick's group showed up. They explain a bit in the comics where the Saviors and Negan came from, if I recall Negan and the original Saviors were a group that split off from Hilltop originally. From the show's standpoint, I'm not sure if they ever specified that they met Negan. I know they've mentioned on the show that lieutenants have come and beat up/killed a few members of other settlements to show they mean business and intimidate them into becoming their next meal ticket. In the comics the Saviors DO provide a basic service, but it's very little in the grand scheme and they certainly do more harm than good.

 

[IrishinTN]

Took the family to Walker/Stalker Con here in Nashville yesterday. Was a great time and we even got to meet and greet Micheal Cudlitz (Abraham). super nice guy. And, of course, we were in costume:

 

[beryirish]

That is incredible!

...should have asked him how it felt to have his head bashed in by Negan and see if he stumbles with his words!

 

[IrishinTN]

That is incredible!

...should have asked him how it felt to have his head bashed in by Negan and see if he stumbles with his words!

Ha...plenty of people were trying to sneak in some insight...

 

[ulukinatme]

Nice job with the makeup and costumes!

 

[PLACforever]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BFsmpgcxnSQ/

 

[ulukinatme]

Coral really needs a haircut.

 

[IrishLion]

I'm currently binge-watching at home (and slow days at work) to catch up.

I watched the first season back when it was first added to Netflix years ago, but couldn't get through season 2.

I recently finished The Office and Always Sunny, so I was looking for a new time-waster, and came back to TWD. Started with season 2, and am now half-way through season 3.

I've got some nits to pick with this show haha.

1) These groups are ridiculously hostile towards one-another for no reason. I understand the Governor's being hostile for no reason, as he is a psycho and a tyrant, and the show needs a villain... but Rick's group devolves into similar hostility towards "outsiders" without even giving them a chance to answer for themselves first. I understand that "The Winter" between seasons 2 and 3 was an off-screen transformative period that hardened the group... but they completely lost their core values, even before things got real f*cked up at the prison. Disappointing.

2) They haven't found a better way to deal with walkers yet? Yeah, the walkers don't fatigue like normal people... but there are many, more efficient ways to dispatch large groups of walkers, rather than just "Assume Battle Formation, Don't Break Ranks, Stab Them in the Head!" Have someone walk out into the field, gather up a train of walkers, lead them into a corridor of some sort that could be constructed haphazardly, and then dispatch them easily without the fear of being out-flanked by shambling monsters. #CmonMan


Three seasons in, and I'm pleased that the above are the only two big complaints I've got so far.

 

[ulukinatme]

Yeah, logic is not something the show does well. It forces you to suspend logic if you plan on enjoying the show. In the first season the walkers were a bit faster, then suddenly they got slower. They could almost run in Atlanta, and they crawled fast. Some people tried to explain it by saying a fed walker is faster, and all the walkers in the beginning were well fed from the collapse, that's horseshit though. They could climb and use rocks in season one too. There's been a handful of other zombie rules they've changed over time. The show is constantly changing their own rules to fit the narrative, you have to roll with it unfortunately. They really should stick with what they've previously established.

How do walkers constantly sneak up on people? It's not like society is still moving and noisy. We're talking settings that are mostly whisper quiet in the apocalypse, and yet constantly walkers will sneak up on characters and bite them. Those deaths always drive me crazy. If you're going to kill someone, don't sneak a walker up on them. Just put them in an inescapable situation and watch them get torn apart. Ninja walkers are fucking stupid.

 

[woolybug25]

I only wish the writers of a zombie apocalypse show were more realistic and logical...

 

[gkIrish]

I only wish the writers of a zombie apocalypse show were more realistic and logical...

That's like saying it would be okay if droids in Star Wars had the ability to use the Force starting in Empire Strikes Back because who cares it's a sci-fi movie.

The fantasy aspect of a show/movie doesn't mean it's okay to be illogical. Changing rules mid show is just sloppy.

 

[woolybug25]

That's like saying it would be okay if droids in Star Wars had the ability to use the Force starting in Empire Strikes Back because who cares it's a sci-fi movie.

The fantasy aspect of a show/movie doesn't mean it's okay to be illogical. Changing rules mid show is just sloppy.

Whatever that dorky thing is that you just said to me... I think that's illogical...


Kidding aside, zombies in general are illogical. The entire story is illogical. If people would prefer things to be different, then whatevs. But it makes zero sense to me to nitpick illogical storylines in a show which entire plot revolves around the illogical nature of a zombie apocalypse. I've heard the whole "just because it's science fiction, doesn't mean it should ignore logic". Welp... I think they blew that when they had the dead rise up as zombies. lol

 

[IrishLion]

I only wish the writers of a zombie apocalypse show were more realistic and logical...

Yeah I'm not looking for a masterpiece of a psychological study...

But I would like some consistency in how the groups act, and in how they approach dealing with the threat of the walkers.

Rick going crazy after his wife died is understandable, but his inconsistency in his hostilities manifested itself before that.

 

[IrishLion]

The show presents itself as the "gritty reality" of how society would react to a zombie apocalypse.

I don't care if you start showing me walkers that combine together to form Voltron Walker and take over post-apocalyptic USA via walker space-lasers... but don't try to make a show of various character studies, and then have those character make decisions for zero reason lol.

 

[Junkhead]

Anyone still watching Fear the Walking Dead? I gave up after like 2-3 episodes this season and didn't miss it at all. Ripped it off like a bandaid!

 

[gkIrish]

Anyone still watching Fear the Walking Dead? I gave up after like 2-3 episodes this season and didn't miss it at all. Ripped it off like a bandaid!

I am. It's hit or miss but I like it enough to keep watching. It helps that there are 3 hot actresses.

I also think they are eventually going to tie it to TWD which would make it more interesting.