'13 IN ATH Jaylon Smith (Notre Dame Man & Graduate)

[phgreek]

Taylor Decker


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Yup...when the football Karma comes to visit that young man, I will not weep...

 

[palinurus]

Taylor Decker


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Yup...when the football Karma comes to visit that young man, I will not weep...

I don't root for players to get hurt, and I won't here, but that was a cheap play (though maybe not dirty, if you know what I mean), and I hope he has a sucky, short career, marries a horrible woman, and gets audited by the IRS a few times.

 

[bluengold4732]

Jaylon referenced the play in an interview and said he and Decker have talked and there's no hard feelings.

 

[palinurus]

Jaylon referenced the play in an interview and said he and Decker have talked and there's no hard feelings.

That's because Smith is a prince of a guy. I'll die thinking it was a cheap play -- unnecessary, short-sighted, trying to lay down a marker and show he's a tough guy. I don't think he tried to hurt Smith or it even crossed his mind he might hurt him, but it was a blindside, unnecessary play.

 

[GoIrish41]

Jaylon's physical is looking awful. Pretty much confirmed he has no shot for 2016.

And as already stated, he basically got caught in a lie about his health. And his physical contradicts everything he said. Hoping that lie doesn't cost him even more.

Won't his insurance policy pay him $5 million if he doesn't go in the first round? He will be fine.

 

[irishfan]

Multiple teams have made the decision to fail Smith on the physical after his exam on Friday, and sources with three teams at the combine said they do not intend to draft Smith.

Jaylon Smith's knee injury concerns multiple NFL teams

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Saw this article. Doesn't sound good for him.


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[Kingbish01]

Poor guy, I hope it all works out for him. I know it's selfish, but I like that the Steelers now have a shot at him.

 

[PLACforever]

Jaylon Smith's knee injury concerns multiple NFL teams

If I were an NFL GM, I'd watch that interview and say, "He's going to captain my team someday."

What a well spoken young man. The picture of a Notre Dame Alumnus.

 

[TheChosen1]

Notre Dame Linebacker Jaylon Smith Failed Medically By “Multiple” Teams | The Big Lead

 

[phillyirish]

If he is supposed to miss the entire next season then the 76ers might draft him #1 overall.

 

[T Town Tommy]

If he is supposed to miss the entire next season then the 76ers might draft him #1 overall.

LOL... but that worked out pretty well for the Sixers. Noel is a 10/8/2 type player. Not great but not bad, especially for team that is obviously struggling right now.

As far as Jaylon, I hope he makes it, gets healthy, and balls out when he gets back. He is a great representative of Notre Dame, both on the field and off.

 

[Junkhead]

Notre Dame Linebacker Jaylon Smith Failed Medically By “Multiple” Teams | The Big Lead

I try not to get TOO into this stuff, but I feel almost sick for him after watching that happen. I'd almost rather we didn't even make a damn bowl game that have him get injured.

 

[johnnycando]

So he'll be a millionaire thanks to insurance.

However, I wonder how much he could have benefitted getting well and playing at ND one more season?

 

[Junkhead]

So he'll be a millionaire thanks to insurance.

However, I wonder how much he could have benefitted getting well and playing at ND one more season?

Could he sit out another year and play one more at ND?

 

[tadman95]

Sounds like he couldn't play anywhere next year. Makes me sick this happened to him. Hope he gets well, really want to see him play again.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

So he'll be a millionaire thanks to insurance.

However, I wonder how much he could have benefitted getting well and playing at ND one more season?

You are absolutely right!

Just to capture as many what if's as possible ---

If Jaylon had waited at least until the supplemental, he would have a clearer picture of his recovery; and, waiting for the supplemental would still have been a big mistake!

20/20 hindsight is still the best lens, but useless in the present, when decisions under pressure need to be made.

And I don't know the conditions of his insurance policy. Jaylon may have been forced to turn pro this year to obtain any of the benefits of the policy. But if he could postpone receiving the benefits until he declared at a later time, that really makes more sense in his situation.

If he cannot play next year, he can rehab in college as well as on the NFL injured reserve.

Next year would have been year four, which he could have gotten a medical red shirt for, and still played the following year as a fifth year grad student.

Had his recovery gone as well as he maintains, he could well have been the number one pick. Right? Or did I miss something?

 

[dad4aa]

You are absolutely right!

Just to capture as many what if's as possible ---

If Jaylon had waited at least until the supplemental, he would have a clearer picture of his recovery; and, waiting for the supplemental would still have been a big mistake!

20/20 hindsight is still the best lens, but useless in the present, when decisions under pressure need to be made.

And I don't know the conditions of his insurance policy. Jaylon may have been forced to turn pro this year to obtain any of the benefits of the policy. But if he could postpone receiving the benefits until he declared at a later time, that really makes more sense in his situation.

If he cannot play next year, he can rehab in college as well as on the NFL injured reserve.

Next year would have been year four, which he could have gotten a medical red shirt for, and still played the following year as a fifth year grad student.

Had his recovery gone as well as he maintains, he could well have been the number one pick. Right? Or did I miss something?

I don't think so. This was my thoughts all along.

 

[dales5050]

You are absolutely right!

Just to capture as many what if's as possible ---

If Jaylon had waited at least until the supplemental, he would have a clearer picture of his recovery; and, waiting for the supplemental would still have been a big mistake!

20/20 hindsight is still the best lens, but useless in the present, when decisions under pressure need to be made.

And I don't know the conditions of his insurance policy. Jaylon may have been forced to turn pro this year to obtain any of the benefits of the policy. But if he could postpone receiving the benefits until he declared at a later time, that really makes more sense in his situation.

If he cannot play next year, he can rehab in college as well as on the NFL injured reserve.

Next year would have been year four, which he could have gotten a medical red shirt for, and still played the following year as a fifth year grad student.

Had his recovery gone as well as he maintains, he could well have been the number one pick. Right? Or did I miss something?

Rehab is going to be a full time job. Being tied down to South Bend and classes while doing this is not the best way to go IMHO. If he needs to go see a doctor in Dallas and then spend 3 weeks in Tampa to rehab, because that is the very best option for him, then that is exactly what he needs to do.

 

[stlnd01]

Rehab is going to be a full time job. Being tied down to South Bend and classes while doing this is not the best way to go IMHO. If he needs to go see a doctor in Dallas and then spend 3 weeks in Tampa to rehab, because that is the very best option for him, then that is exactly what he needs to do.

I don't know. And too late now. But if he's going to miss 2016 and fall out of the first round entirely, staying in college, getting his degree, and deciding a year from now whether to go pro or play a fifth year doesn't seem like a bad choice. You can rehab anywhere.
That said, his insurance policy means he'll be fine financially no matter what happens. If coming back to school put that at risk (which it may have, I don't know), of course he should have gone.

 

[dales5050]

I don't know. And too late now. But if he's going to miss 2016 and fall out of the first round entirely, staying in college, getting his degree, and deciding a year from now whether to go pro or play a fifth year doesn't seem like a bad choice. You can rehab anywhere.
That said, his insurance policy means he'll be fine financially no matter what happens. If coming back to school put that at risk (which it may have, I don't know), of course he should have gone.

This takes time. It was known Smith was leaving before the injury, so the degree was not that high on the list. Now after an injury and during a critical and excruciating rehab you want him to go back to class as well? That makes zero sense.

Whatever time he would have spent on school would be better used during this time on rehab. Even if that's simply taking a nap.

 

[kmoose]

I don't know. And too late now. But if he's going to miss 2016 and fall out of the first round entirely, staying in college, getting his degree, and deciding a year from now whether to go pro or play a fifth year doesn't seem like a bad choice. You can rehab anywhere.
That said, his insurance policy means he'll be fine financially no matter what happens. If coming back to school put that at risk (which it may have, I don't know), of course he should have gone.

You can rehab anywhere, that's true. But, even though ND has plenty of money and expertise; I doubt that the school is going to invest as much in his rehab as an NFL team is going to. And he can still live in South Bend and finish school if that works with his rehab.

 

[dad4aa]

Rehab is going to be a full time job. Being tied down to South Bend and classes while doing this is not the best way to go IMHO. If he needs to go see a doctor in Dallas and then spend 3 weeks in Tampa to rehab, because that is the very best option for him, then that is exactly what he needs to do.

Not sure if you ever had an injury to rehab. While my injury was not nearly as bad as Jaylon's, I did blow my knee out and have an ACL reconstruction...a long time ago when the procedure was more invasive. It is not like you are rehabbing 8-10 hours a day. There is plenty of time to fit other things in (like school) while doing an intensive rehab.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

I think it was. (degree important)

He agreed to get his degree for his mom.

Does anyone know how far away he was?

 

[dales5050]

Not sure if you ever had an injury to rehab. While my injury was not nearly as bad as Jaylon's, I did blow my knee out and have an ACL reconstruction...a long time ago when the procedure was more invasive. It is not like you are rehabbing 8-10 hours a day. There is plenty of time to fit other things in (like school) while doing an intensive rehab.

Of course you can make time for school but being in class is not going to get Jaylon any closer to playing for an NFL team. It would only be a distraction. And while the degree is awesome, going to class does nothing to better his odds and only has a potential for a negative.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I don't believe there is a top notch rehab facility in South Bend. He made the right choice

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I don't believe there is a top notch rehab facility in South Bend. He made the right choice

Where's he rehabbing at? Fort Wayne? Find it hard to believe that they have facilities much better, especially compared to larger cities with medical research facilities.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Where's he rehabbing at? Fort Wayne? Find it hard to believe that they have facilities much better, especially compared to larger cities with medical research facilities.

I have no clue. I just find it odd the amount of people that think him staying at ND for school wouldn't have hindered his rehab.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

I have no clue. I just find it odd the amount of people that think him staying at ND for school wouldn't have hindered his rehab.

I think both are very manageable simultaneously...

I mean, the guy has gone to ND for 3 years and worked his butt off to become the best LB in the country, all while being a great student.

I'm confident saying that his academics would hinder him far less during rehab, than they would during football season.

Our student athletes are tremendous at balancing a crazy workload, and no way Jaylon's rehab would be compromised during the finish of his semester.

 

[Irish Insanity]

I think both are very manageable simultaneously...

I mean, the guy has gone to ND for 3 years and worked his butt off to become the best LB in the country, all while being a great student.

I'm confident saying that his academics would hinder him far less during rehab, than they would during football season.

Our student athletes are tremendous at balancing a crazy workload, and no way Jaylon's rehab would be compromised during the finish of his semester.

Football season and practice was in SB along with his education. His choice, and likely a lot better option, for rehab I can't imagine would be. It would be nearly impossible.