'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

[IrishinTN]

I tell my girls all the time, "You can do whatever you want in life so long as you are law biding, productive, and make some kind of a positive impact. So that also means one thing you definitely can't do is go to, or root for, USC."

I win at parenting.

I do the same, but with Michigan.

 

[phork]

Final prediction: Houston.

Greenberry'd.

 

[IrishLax]

For whatever reason, I got into USC, but not ND. Couldn't pull the trigger though LOL...I have always friggin' hated USC and as stupid as it sounds now, I couldn't go to a rival of ND (or UCLA for that matter).

Worked out in the end but if my kids ever get into USC..........they won't be my kids if they attend that POS place

I edited my post, because I think I phrased it poorly. Your situation is as expected... minus the spurning of USC haha...

Funny story... I've mentioned this before, but my best friend from HS went to USC. Really smart guy, got a ton of scholarship money. I visited him once and every one of his friends was really nice, except for this one girl that was an insane, vitriolic ND hater and was just a huge bitch to me from the moment I met her. Think Michigan message board level hate. This was in the Pete Carroll era so most everyone was docile and self-assured, except for this girl who would just not stop and was making everyone uncomfortable.

Finally, hours into this whole thing she brings up that she actually applied to Notre Dame and had always wanted to go there but THANK GOD SHE DIDN'T GET IN BECAUSE USC IS SO MUCH BETTER AND SHE'S SO HAPPY... and one of her friends turns to her and deadpans "Yup, you sure seam REAL happy about it." The whole group bursts out laughing, she turns bright red and storms out of the room, and that was the last I saw of her on my visit.

Fight on.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Insider Report: Behind LB Jonathan Jones' commitment, latest on 5-star Demetris Robertson ($) <a href="https://t.co/TGYIXiTpqo">https://t.co/TGYIXiTpqo</a></p>— Anna Hickey (@AnnaHScout) <a href="https://twitter.com/AnnaHScout/status/695684676015558656">February 5, 2016</a></blockquote>
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Is Sampson still holding to his "Stanford is definitely out"?

 

[palinurus]

The battle for five-star Demetris Robertson begins

Apologies if this was posted already. Sheds light on the timeline:

"...hopes to find out next week whether he will be accepted to Stanford. If he gets good news, the plan is to set an official visit to Palo Alto, Calif., potentially Feb. 19. In this scenario, Alabama and Georgia would be battling for an official visit, with a potential Feb. 12 date. Those visit dates are not set in stone and are also dependent on Robertson's high school basketball schedule...

"Acceptance does not mean the Cardinal are a lock to land him, but it could deal a significant blow to Georgia and Alabama's chances. Its coaching staff does not have near the established relationship with Robertson that the Alabama, Georgia, and Notre Dame coaching staffs do, but the possibility exists that Robertson sets foot on the Stanford campus and falls in love.

"At this point, Notre Dame should still be considered the leader. Where things stand after that are a complete unknown. Robertson has been unable to make three trips to Alabama and a pair of trips to Georgia, so getting him and his family, mother included, in town will be the major battle over the next two weeks."

Kipp Adams - Feb 4, 1:17 PM

 

[palinurus]

This thread is like the Mob....You can try to get away, but it keeps pulling you back in.

 

[Irish#1]

For whatever reason, I got into USC, but not ND. Couldn't pull the trigger though LOL...I have always friggin' hated USC and as stupid as it sounds now, I couldn't go to a rival of ND (or UCLA for that matter).

Worked out in the end but if my kids ever get into USC..........they won't be my kids if they attend that POS place

When she told me she had applied I was like

Then when she said she was serious, I was like

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This is all accurate. Like I've been saying, he hasn't even submitted an application. He is months past the deadline for everyone else. They're making huge exceptions to even consider him.

This isn't an exception like Notre Dame taking Aaron Lynch with a bad ACT score. This would be like Notre Dame taking a convicted drug dealer who did jail time. They are so laughably past what Stanford does for everyone else it is hilariously hypocritical. Shaw always runs his damn mouth about how much harder their standards are than everyone else and how they NEVER compromise... and then they bend over backwards making incredible exceptions for a 5. You are watching Stanford sell their soul, remember this moment.

I don't believe Stanford admission is even aware of this pending acceptance of DRob!

Personally I think it is all bullsh1t!


Whether it was concocted by Stanford coaching to fvck Notre Dame, or by DRob's camp to get pressure off his back, or by some third party for other, nefarious reasons, I don't buy it. I know several that have gone to Stanford, more that have failed to gain admission, two that were admitted and went elsewhere, and one faculty member. They were pretty clear on this all :
If you didn't get your paperwork (all) in by deadlines, no exceptions, extensions, or excuses, you were 100% not going to be admitted.
People talk about minimum number of words, which is very misleading. Try making a common grammatical error, presenting any kind of sloppy response, or not killing it. Also, try to vacillate on your major, or academic goals, good luck.
Now, with about admission rates :


Curtis Institute of Music 1 Philadelphia, PA 4.8% 4
Stanford University Stanford, CA 5.1%
Harvard University Cambridge, MA 6%
Yale University New Haven, CT 6.3%
Columbia University New York, NY 7%
Alice Lloyd College Pippa Passes, KY 7.1%
Princeton University Princeton, NJ 7.4%
Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA 7.9%

Stanford's admission rate is lower than any Ivy League school and even MIT!

And I think I have read where Notre Dame's is between 22 and 28%. Maybe someone could verify that or provide a better number

And another thing, about the soul selling thing, I believe the SAT scores have to be submitted, at a score high enough to qualify at a date at the beginning of the enrollment process! This would be a huge departure alone from anything Stanford has ever done, maybe someone can speak to whether this would be an NCAA violation, in and of itself?
I know it is not a problem to have different admission standards; but, I don't know how the NCAA feels about one person exceptions on standard procedure.

That is the last nail in the coffin, as far as I am concerned, and proof of the fact that there are no last minute exceptions.

First, if ND was not in the mix I wonder if Stanford would be doing this.

Second, are you saying that lowering SAT floor to where ND's is would be selling their soul? Or just making exceptions to rules they have (rules that are not themselves essential to running a clean program, they just happen to be the rules)? Playing Tree's advocate here.

Obviously not, LAX makes in clear that is a standard for all scholarship athletes; and has been an established standard for a number of years.

Stanford's,

•Test Scores -- 25th / 75th Percentile (of admitted students.) *
*•SAT Critical Reading: 680 / 780
•SAT Math: 700 / 790
•SAT Writing: 690 / 790

So the top three-quarters of students, roughly 1,200, score above 2040

Few if any are admitted without a 3.6 which I think is what I heard DRob had, without also scoring 28 on the ACT, or 2050 on the SAT. Few like only athletes few. Most of the students fall in the 30/2070 range with a 3.85 and above.

Maybe someone could provide Notre Dame's.

In conclusion, with the test scores and GPA's required, and the heavy reliance on essay's, I would say there was a snowballs chance at the equator. And that is before the fact, that Admission, and admin run the school, athletics have their hands tied more than they do at Notre Dame.

Remember, a little under two thousand students are accepted, where nearly 40,000 apply. And much of that is a who's who of the American elite, let alone the really wealthy children of the wealthy and powerful from around the world; Princes, royalty, high ranking military, business leaders, commerce and industrialists, among others. These are people that don't like being turned down!

Fun fact : Not only do athletics actually loose money at Stanford, so does football. Imagine that!

 

[Domina Nostra]

I don't believe Stanford admission is even aware of this pending acceptance of DRob!

Personally I think it is all bullsh1t!


Whether it was concocted by Stanford coaching to fvck Notre Dame, or by DRob's camp to get pressure off his back, or by some third party for other, nefarious reasons, I don't buy it. I know several that have gone to Stanford, more that have failed to gain admission, two that were admitted and went elsewhere, and one faculty member. They were pretty clear on this all :
If you didn't get your paperwork (all) in by deadlines, no exceptions, extensions, or excuses, you were 100% not going to be admitted.
People talk about minimum number of words, which is very misleading. Try making a common grammatical error, presenting any kind of sloppy response, or not killing it. Also, try to vacillate on your major, or academic goals, good luck.
Now, with about admission rates :


Curtis Institute of Music 1 Philadelphia, PA 4.8% 4
Stanford University Stanford, CA 5.1%
Harvard University Cambridge, MA 6%
Yale University New Haven, CT 6.3%
Columbia University New York, NY 7%
Alice Lloyd College Pippa Passes, KY 7.1%
Princeton University Princeton, NJ 7.4%
Institute of Technology
Cambridge, MA 7.9%

Stanford's admission rate is lower than any Ivy League school and even MIT!

And another thing, about the soul selling thing, I believe the SAT scores have to be submitted, at a score high enough to qualify at a date at the beginning of the enrollment process! This would be a huge departure alone from anything Stanford has ever done, maybe someone can speak to whether this would be an NCAA violation, in and of itself?
I know it is not a problem to have different admission standards; but, I don't know how the NCAA feels about one person exceptions on standard procedure.

That is the last nail in the coffin, as far as I am concerned, and proof of the fact that there are no last minute exceptions.



Obviously not, LAX makes in clear that is a standard for all scholarship athletes; and has been an established standard for a number of years.

Stanford's,

•Test Scores -- 25th / 75th Percentile (of admitted students.) *
*•SAT Critical Reading: 680 / 780
•SAT Math: 700 / 790
•SAT Writing: 690 / 790

So the top three-quarters of students, roughly 1,200, score above 2040

Few if any are admitted without a 3.6 which I think is what I heard DRob had, without also scoring 28 on the ACT, or 2050 on the SAT. Few like only athletes few. Most of the students fall in the 30/2070 range with a 3.85 and above.

Maybe someone could provide Notre Dame's.

In conclusion, with the test scores and GPA's required, and the heavy reliance on essay's, I would say there was a snowballs chance at the equator. And that is before the fact, that Admission, and admin run the school, athletics have their hands tied more than they do at Notre Dame.

Remember, a little under two thousand students are accepted, where nearly 40,000 apply. And much of that is a who's who of the American elite, let alone the really wealthy children of the wealthy and powerful from around the world; Princes, royalty, high ranking military, business leaders, commerce and industrialists, among others. These are people that don't like being turned down!

Fun fact : Not only do athletics actually loose money at Stanford, so does football. Imagine that!

Yeah, but, I kind of disagree.

 

[Wingman Ray]

Ready for this crap? Here is betting that he doesnt get into Stanford and signs with Bama. What a crock of crap that would be!

TTown, does Bama have room for 1 more or will they just pull the famous Saban Grey Shirt talk at the last minute with one of their other recruits?

 

[IrishLax]

Ready for this crap? Here is betting that he doesnt get into Stanford and signs with Bama. What a crock of crap that would be!

TTown, does Bama have room for 1 more or will they just pull the famous Saban Grey Shirt talk at the last minute with one of their other recruits?

Here?

 

[NDdomer2]

Bogs, somewhere this summer someone posted a ND infographic FULL of the incoming freshman class statistics. The thread was something about applying/accepted in ND. I'll try and dig up or someone else remembering better than I might be faster or help a guy out.

 

[NorthDakota]

For whatever reason, I got into USC, but not ND. Couldn't pull the trigger though LOL...I have always friggin' hated USC and as stupid as it sounds now, I couldn't go to a rival of ND (or UCLA for that matter).

Worked out in the end but if my kids ever get into USC..........they won't be my kids if they attend that POS place

I had a similar situation growing up. Dad sat us all down when my older sister was looking at colleges and said they'd help us out provided we had a good reason to go there... But that there is no reason good enough to attend the University of North Dakota so don't waste your time asking.

 

[Calabrese's People]

Bogs, somewhere this summer someone posted a ND infographic FULL of the incoming freshman class statistics. The thread was something about applying/accepted in ND. I'll try and dig up or someone else remembering better than I might be faster or help a guy out.

Is it this?

 

[GATTACA!]

Is it this?

The average ACT was 34-36? Wow

 

[NDShark]

Is it this?

Sweet baby jesus. Glad I went there in the past.

 

[MNIrishman]

Is it this?

Totally second-tier.

 

[Classic Irish]

My niece is among these statistics. She was accepted to ND, but opted for the University of Chicago. The latter is frankly more her speed.

 

[KempDogg410]

I had a similar situation growing up. Dad sat us all down when my older sister was looking at colleges and said they'd help us out provided we had a good reason to go there... But that there is no reason good enough to attend the University of North Dakota so don't waste your time asking.

Sounds like your dad is an NDSU graduate.

 

[NorthDakota]

Sounds like your dad is an NDSU graduate.

Yeah he ended up pretty well forcing us all there

 

[MNIrishman]

My niece is among these statistics. She was accepted to ND, but opted for the University of Chicago. The latter is frankly more her speed.

Can you explain the appeal of UChicago to me? Their physics and math programs are amazing, but other than that, they are self-described as "where fun goes to die." It just sounds like a very unappealing place to me. Also, they lack an engineering college, so they're not really a university so much as an inflated LAC. If you wanted to have a great education in Chicago, why not Northwestern?

 

[pkt77242]

Can you explain the appeal of UChicago to me? Their physics and math programs are amazing, but other than that, they are self-described as "where fun goes to die." It just sounds like a very unappealing place to me. Also, they lack an engineering college, so they're not really a university so much as an inflated LAC. If you wanted to have a great education in Chicago, why not Northwestern?

I believe that they also have an amazing economics program as well.

 

[MNIrishman]

I believe that they also have an amazing economics program as well.

Yeah, I've heard that too. I don't really doubt that it's a great school, just one that seems like far and away the least attractive of the schools in its category (Smart Midwest kids---->ND, Northwestern, UChicago, Michigan (if money's an issue and they're from Michigan)). Even if you wanted a similarly-regarded school in a major city, UPenn, Harvard, and Columbia all just seem more attractive to me because they don't seem to pride themselves on low quality of life like UChicago does.

I'm also glad they gave up their football program, or else we may have had even more competition for Demetris.

 

[NDPhilly]

Is it this?

lmao why did I even apply. I should pay my parents back for the application fee

 

[zelezo vlk]

Can you explain the appeal of UChicago to me? Their physics and math programs are amazing, but other than that, they are self-described as "where fun goes to die." It just sounds like a very unappealing place to me. Also, they lack an engineering college, so they're not really a university so much as an inflated LAC. If you wanted to have a great education in Chicago, why not Northwestern?

Because fuck Evanston, that's why.

 

[Classic Irish]

Can you explain the appeal of UChicago to me? Their physics and math programs are amazing, but other than that, they are self-described as "where fun goes to die." It just sounds like a very unappealing place to me. Also, they lack an engineering college, so they're not really a university so much as an inflated LAC. If you wanted to have a great education in Chicago, why not Northwestern?

I'd never want to go there, but that was her first choice. It's typically ranked a top ten, if not top five school. US News and World Report has the Universiry of Chicago tied with Stanford at number 4. They're widely considered a better school overall than Northwestern. Perhaps I misunderstand you, but I'm not sure why you seem to be disparaging the liberal arts. They have a lot of first rate scholars in the humanities.

 

[NDgradstudent]

Can you explain the appeal of UChicago to me? Their physics and math programs are amazing, but other than that, they are self-described as "where fun goes to die." It just sounds like a very unappealing place to me. Also, they lack an engineering college, so they're not really a university so much as an inflated LAC. If you wanted to have a great education in Chicago, why not Northwestern?

It's a great choice for grad school, especially in the humanities and social sciences, and for law school. It's also great if you're a very academic/nerdy type undergrad with those sorts of interests. We have a lot of Chicago alums in our program here at ND, and although they're brilliant they tend not to be in the grad student section on gameday.

Is DRob thinking about playing for the Maroons now?!

 

[zelezo vlk]

It's a great choice for grad school, especially in the humanities and social sciences, and for law school. It's also great if you're a very academic/nerdy type undergrad with those sorts of interests. We have a lot of Chicago alums in our program here at ND, and although they're brilliant they tend not to be in the grad student section on gameday.

Is DRob thinking about playing for the Maroons now?!

I could've sworn that U of Chicago disbanded their football team a long time ago

 

[pkt77242]

It's a great choice for grad school, especially in the humanities and social sciences, and for law school. It's also great if you're a very academic/nerdy type undergrad with those sorts of interests. We have a lot of Chicago alums in our program here at ND, and although they're brilliant they tend not to be in the grad student section on gameday.

Is DRob thinking about playing for the Maroons now?!

I would also say that they have a top notch MBA program as well.

 

[NDgradstudent]

I could've sworn that U of Chicago disbanded their football team a long time ago

They're reviving it.
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