National Signing Day 2016

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I was on campus for 2007... So the fact that we are even debating whether a 10 win season is a meh, good or great season tells me all I need to know about where our program is.

Good better best, never ever rest, till the good is better and the better is best.

2007 was awful...just awful. The thing I learned...and what has shaped my philosohy is that above all things winning starts with the o-line. Your best defense is an 80 yard pounding drive...makes for a bigger swing than the 7 you get at the end...Oline play means everything.
 

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If we have to lose 10 over five years I vote 12-0, 12-0, 2-10, 12-0, 12-0

Get all the pain out in one season. This argument is strange.
 

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Would you rather go 11-2 and 11-2 or 13-0 and 7-6?

The bolded is absolutely insane too. I can't believe anyone feels that way.

OK. We are getting away from what the original question was, and I'm not allowing you to drag me down this rabbit hole where you try to make me look like I don't demand excellence, or that I am willing to settle for mediocrity. Your original statement was this:

Put the question differently. Would you accept a 10-2 regular season every year for the next 5 years? Nothing worse, nothing better.

I would not. I want to make the playoffs.

I would absolutely accept a 10 win regular season for 5 years in a row. YOU said that you would not, because you wanted a shot at the playoffs. Now you have tried to flip the conversation to only 10 wins, period. Meaning absolutely no shot at a Championship. That's not the same question as you asked originally. The original question, about a 10 win regular season, does not automatically mean no playoff. So if you just want to keep changing the focus, find someone else to play games with. I'm out of it.
 

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So now we are doing a 2 year model? Based on your initial proposition, I would rather go 50-10 over 5 years, with no NC, than to go 8-4, 9-3, 8-4, 13-0, 7-5(45-16). Now if you are going to ask about a 2 year period where I actually get more wins, then it would be consistent with my previous statement that I would take more wins, which in this (new) scenario would include a NC.

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Per Barton Simmons 247 (please forgive if posted already; feel free to strike):

The dust has settled on the 2016 version of National Signing Day, but the 2016 recruiting cycle is much more than one day. With the signing classes in the books, it's time to dole out some superlatives.

Best quarterback class – Ole Miss
Very few schools took more than one quarterback in this cycle so without much quality depth on any one commit list, the nod here goes to Ole Miss and Shea Patterson who clawed his way to the top of the quarterback rankings with strong performances in every possible setting.
Honorable mention: Georgia, Virginia Tech, Florida

Best running back class – Ohio State
In a very shallow, limited running back class nationally, the Buckeyes were able to land two of the best. Demario McCall is one of the best space players in the country and Antonio Williams is one of the nation's most productive backs.
Honorable mention: Alabama, Arkansas

Best wide receiver class – USC
Tee Martin and the Trojans capitalized on an incredibly deep year at wide receiver in Southern California. Michael Pittman, Tyler Vaughns and Josh Imatorbhebhe highlight a deep and versatile group.
Honorable Mention: Auburn, Baylor, Florida, Ole Miss, Ohio State, Michigan State, UCLA

Best tight end class – Ohio State
The Buckeyes landed a tight end that can block and catch in the Big Ten right now in Jake Hausmann. They landed a flex tight end that can be a dynamic option in that offense with Kierre Hawkins. Then there's Luke Farrell who has maybe the highest ceiling of any tight end in this 2016 class.
Honorable Mention: Michigan, Ole Miss

Best offensive line class – Alabama
The best junior college offensive tackle in the country (Charles Baldwin), the second best high school offensive tackle in the country (Jonah Williams) and three other four-star road-graders (Deonte Brown, Chris Owens, Scott Lashley) make this another typical big, bullying offensive line group for the Tide.
Honorable Mention: Notre Dame, Florida State

Best defensive line class – Auburn
A close race for this award turned into a clear choice when Derrick Brown committed to Auburn on Wednesday. There's both elite talent and crazy depth on the Auburn commit list. Nick Coe is the forgotten man here. He may just end up being the best of the bunch.
Honorable Mention: LSU, Texas, Mississippi State, Ohio State

Best linebacker class – Alabama
In Ben Davis and Lyndell Wilson, Alabama landed two of the top three linebackers in the country. If you add Terrell Hall, who is projected to be an outside linebacker for Nick Saban, that's three five-star linebackers heading to Tuscaloosa.
Honorable mention: UCLA, Clemson, Texas,

Best defensive back class – LSU
LSU gets my vote for DBU and this class is further supporting evidence of that. There are five defensive backs committed in this group. Three are in the top five at their position and the other two are four-stars Andraez Williams and Cameron Lewis who would be headliners for any other class in the country.
Honorable mention: Florida State, Tennessee, Notre Dame, Baylor, USC

Best class at addressing needs: Michigan State
The Spartans return one receiver that had more than two catches last season. They lose three receivers that combined for 1800 yards receiving and 131 receptions. They needed to find depth and instant contributors at that spot and they went out and got four four-star receivers led by Donnie Corley.

Best close: Texas
Charlie Strong waited until the absolute last minute before unleashing nine commitments in the final 48 hours of the 2016 cycle. The close took Texas from No. 33 in the national rankings all the way up to No. 11.

Most surprising finish: USC
We knew USC would close strong but stealing a four-star running back commit from Oregon (Vavae Malepeai), flipping a four-star athlete from Florida State (Jamel Cook), swiping a skill player out of Hurricane country (Keyshawn Young) and beating Georgia on a four-star offensive tackle from its own state (E.J. Price) topped most people's best case scenarios.

Most important class: Ole Miss
How do you replace the best recruiting class in school history after it transforms the program and collectively departs for NFL millions? Recruit an even better one. In terms of class ranking, this 2016 Ole Miss class finished higher than the Robert Nkemdiche, Laremy Tunsil, Laquon Treadwell class of 2013.

Best pound for pound class: Clemson
This was a statement class by Dabo Swinney. Class size limited Clemson in what it could do down the stretch but this class has more difference makers in the top half of the group than anyone in the country. The Tigers are not leaving the national stage any time soon.

Best new coach: Will Muschamp
Muschamp was dealt a losing hand when he took over the job at South Carolina. The class was in shambles, the numbers were low, the playmakers were nowhere to be found. He quickly put together one of the nation's top recruiting staffs and went to work, nearly sneaking into the Top 25 by signing day.

Sleeper classes: Wisconsin and Pittsburgh
Wisconsin has future pros that you've never heard of in this class. Allow me to introduce them to you: OT Patrick Kasl, WR Quintez Cephus, TE Jake Hescock, Jumbo athlete Isaiahh Loudermilk. Write them down.

While you're at it, write down these names that are going to help Pitt start rising towards the top of the ACC: QB Thomas MacVIttie, LB Chase Pine, RB George Hill, CB Damar Hamlin.

Where the best names of 2016 ended up:
The noble Sir Patrick Scott signed with Marshall.
His highness King James Taylor signed with Hawaii.
Tough-guy offensive lineman Gentle Williams signed with Cal.
The tall Lil'Jordan Humphrey signed with Texas
 

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If we land Drob then we'd jump all of those honorable mention teams at WR and arguably beat out USC as well.
 

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Agreed, would be our lowest class since 2012. I'm not necessarily disappointed with it, but let's not pretend this year's class should be celebrated as a triumph of recruiting.

Notre Dame lost all momentum for 2016 after the Fiesta Bowl. You can't get blown out out like that and expect good things to happen on the recruiting trail. It's a shame bc the staff worked their asses off all year to get into position to close the year strong.

Notre Dame wins the Fiesta Bowl....I think you have a different finish.


However, I think those fans not happy with the class simply don't understand how much the coaching turnover impacted the ability to get after 2016 kids. It really showed when Tommy Kraemer was still the lone commit in the class heading into a late a Junior Day.

They were playing catchup for most of the spring on 2016, while trying to make headway on the 2017 class.

Kelly got a hidden gem in Autry Denson. It was evident Denson was going to have success when he all, but got Tony Jones Jr. on board before he even took his visit. People may say "Jones was only a three-star". But look at the points Denson hit. He made sure Jones knew what life was like going from Florida to Notre Dame, made sure he knew he was going to have an opportunity to play baseball, stressed the need for a RB like Jones and most of all made sure Denbrock was involved as the family and Denbrock had history together.

Notre Dame handled Julian Okwara and Jamir Jones perfectly.

Notre Dame is already in position to make moves in 2017 by getting ahead of the curve. Getting Jamyest Williams on campus in January is just huge, but having another Junior Day and getting the word out about Irish Invasion now, is only going to help future classes.

Every program is always going to miss on kids, but when push comes to shove, you really have to be pleased with where Notre Dame is heading with recruiting.
 

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LOL Scott Schraeder is honestly crazy.

He has EJ Price going to USC- big Georgia lean
Pie Young- USC
Jamel Cook- USC- Dalvin Cooks brother
Quinn Nordin- Michigan lock- to USC. So Scott thinks USC is signing two kickers
Oregon RB commit- USC
Kongbo- Might end up at USC

Dude calls Tom Loy a homer all the time but holy cow


Soooo.

EJ Price- Signed with USC
Pie Young - Signed with USC
Jamel Cook - Signed with USC
Quinn Nordin - Signed with Michigan
Oregon RB commit (Vavae Malepeai) - Signed with USC
Jonathan Kongbo - Signed with Tennessee

I feel like he was pretty accurate, GB.
 

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National Signing Day 2016




Love reading where are they now on top rated college football recruits.

Majority on the ND players in the list had decent college careers. But man did they have horrible NFL tenures. To bad Rivals didn't have Golden Tate ranked in the top 100. As ESPN had Tate like #9 overall. What is that old saying...blind squirrel finds a nut.

This should be sent to every recruit Notre Dame offers.


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