'16 TX LB Jeffrey McCulloch (Texas Verbal)

[Irish#1]

Is the concensus that a coaching change for Texas or AM would actually help those schools chances? I guess I assumed the coaches remaining would help them.

If they don't change there's a big cloud hanging over next season. If they are retained and the have dismal seasons next year either one will probably be gone.

I heard today that A&M would have to pay Sumlin like $20M within 60 days if they let him go. They ain't letting him go...IMO

Most of the buyouts I have read about never go exactly by the terms of the agreement. For instance when IU fired Sampson, he was due some big number. They settled on something less than the amount in the contract and spread out over a period of years. I think it goes back to the litigation aspect. Neither party wants it to drag out so they come to terms.

 

[stlnd01]

I heard today that A&M would have to pay Sumlin like $20M within 60 days if they let him go. They ain't letting him go...IMO

That's probably a good thing in this recruitment. And Strong's not going anywhere either. He can watch coaching changes but if coaches aren't changing... (unless someone's putting a big in his ear about Kelly).

Also: Agree that bowl games matter for momentum/measuring sticks. But it's a pretty short-sighted thing to hang your college choice on.

 

[NCND]

Bowl games, especially big ones are measuring sticks heading into the off season. ND got a bump this year pre-season because, partially of what we did to LSU in our bowl game.

With ND beating OSU, which we need to do to validate our season. It would show that not only is ND close to the top of CFB but is an elite program. We desperately need to beat OSU.

VERY true and underrated comment here. All ignorant SEC/Bama fans take note. BOWL games matter. If ND lost that LSU game, no way in hell is ND a fringe Top 10 team in the preseason polls. Next SEC/ESPN/Bama person that says "don't matter, wasn't motivated" I might jump off a cliff. Prep might change if a team isn't in a title game/ inferior opp but don't tell me with a straight face that someone steps on a football field and doesn't try to WIN the damn game. Sorry for the rant.

 

[Rocket 94]

VERY true and underrated comment here. All ignorant SEC/Bama fans take note. BOWL games matter. If ND lost that LSU game, no way in hell is ND a fringe Top 10 team in the preseason polls. Next SEC/ESPN/Bama person that says "don't matter, wasn't motivated" I might jump off a cliff. Prep might change if a team isn't in a title game/ inferior opp but don't tell me with a straight face that someone steps on a football field and doesn't try to WIN the damn game. Sorry for the rant.

I wholeheartedly agree with this comment. Hate it when I hear bowl games are meaningless exhibitions.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I wholeheartedly agree with this comment. Hate it when I hear bowl games are meaningless exhibitions.

It's not all or nothing. Different games are bigger than others. Some games are a real disappointment for one team (FSU), and a real chance to shine for the other (Houston).

A loss in some games could really kill a team's offseason (say we lose at Yankee Stadium to Rutgers), while a win in another game can really turn things around (last year vs. LSU).

For teams that are on top, a loss is not as big deal. Alabama recruiting does not suffer as a result of kids allegedly mailing it in, because everyone already knows they are legit and they'll be right back in the mix next year.

On the other hand, if you doubt someone is for real, how the team does might color your perception of where they are going .

This game against OSU will be HUGE if ND wins, neutral if ND loses small, and a set back if we get blown out.

 

[dublinirish]

It's not all or nothing. Different games are bigger than others. Some games are a real disappointment for one team (FSU), and a real chance to shine for the other (Houston).

A loss in some games could really kill a team's offseason (say we lose at Yankee Stadium to Rutgers), while a win in another game can really turn things around (last year vs. LSU).

For teams that are on top, a loss is not as big deal. Alabama recruiting does not suffer as a result of kids allegedly mailing it in, because everyone already knows they are legit and they'll be right back in the mix next year.

On the other hand, if you doubt someone is for real, how the team does might color your perception of where they are going .

This game against OSU will be HUGE if ND wins, neutral if ND loses small, and a set back if we get blown out.

When i made the comment i was referring to the school's bowl games McCulloch is considering -
TAMU (meaningless game)
Florida (meaningless game)
Stanford (meaningless game)
Texas (no bowl game)
ND (important game)

 

[Domina Nostra]

When i made the comment i was referring to the school's bowl games McCulloch is considering -
TAMU (meaningless game)
Florida (meaningless game)
Stanford (meaningless game)
Texas (no bowl game)
ND (important game)

Yeah, that's how I see it to. I wasn't trying to contradict you.

 

[dublinirish]

Yeah, that's how I see it to. I wasn't trying to contradict you.

sorry man, yeah i should have really elaborated on my OP. Maybe he's seeing if Sumlin gets canned before he decides. Could be plausible.

 

[GoldenToTheGrave]

It's not all or nothing. Different games are bigger than others. Some games are a real disappointment for one team (FSU), and a real chance to shine for the other (Houston).

A loss in some games could really kill a team's offseason (say we lose at Yankee Stadium to Rutgers), while a win in another game can really turn things around (last year vs. LSU).

For teams that are on top, a loss is not as big deal. Alabama recruiting does not suffer as a result of kids allegedly mailing it in, because everyone already knows they are legit and they'll be right back in the mix next year.

On the other hand, if you doubt someone is for real, how the team does might color your perception of where they are going .

This game against OSU will be HUGE if ND wins, neutral if ND loses small, and a set back if we get blown out.

The last time we were in a big bowl game, Alabama embarrassed us. A win against the last years national champion would go a long way at redemption. Wins like this could swing guys like Hilliard who we lost last year.

 

[yankeehater]

When i made the comment i was referring to the school's bowl games McCulloch is considering -
TAMU (meaningless game)
Florida (meaningless game)
Stanford (meaningless game)
Texas (no bowl game)
ND (important game)

Not sure I see the difference between Stanford's game and ND's. So I feel they are either both meaningless or both important.

McCulloch waiting to see how the coaching carousal shakes up after bowl games means he is choosing staff over a school which could = not good for ND.

 

[dublinirish]

Not sure I see the difference between Stanford's game and ND's. So I feel they are either both meaningless or both important.

McCulloch waiting to see how the coaching carousal shakes up after bowl games means he is choosing staff over a school which could = not good for ND.

Stanford have played in the Rose Bowl a bunch of times and the outcome has never mattered much to them recruiting wise. Beating Iowa would be a kind of "meh" result.

 

[Irish8248]

Not sure I see the difference between Stanford's game and ND's. So I feel they are either both meaningless or both important.

McCulloch waiting to see how the coaching carousal shakes up after bowl games means he is choosing staff over a school which could = not good for ND.

Or it could been he has a kefir relationship with an asst coach at ND and is looking to see if that coach jumps for a HC gig... This chicken little stuff guys both ways. Stop reading into this stuff

 

[beryirish]

Not sure I see the difference between Stanford's game and ND's. So I feel they are either both meaningless or both important.

McCulloch waiting to see how the coaching carousal shakes up after bowl games means he is choosing staff over a school which could = not good for ND.

He could be getting neg recruited against ND being that Kelly is leaving...perhaps.

 

[arrowryan]

Loy's response when asked if McCulloch pushing back his decision date hurts ND's chances

I don't believe it favors anyone, to be quite honest. I do believe the Irish are the leader as of today. That said, things could change. I also wouldn't be completely shocked if Notre Dame got a return visit from McCulloch on his family's own dime. It'll be an interesting few weeks.

 

[Luckylucci]

A couple of things from the Hammster.

- A lot of "insiders" thinks Texas leads but he doesn't.
- He says that early PT is big for McCulloch and he doesn't want to play behind Malik Jefferson, therefore giving the advantage to the other schools.
- Also, he'll be cutting his list to 3 teams in the next couple of days and announcing another decision date.

FWIW, Hamm will tell you that he's been all over this recruitment with the best information. Lol

 

[GBdomer]

A couple of things from the Hammster.

- A lot of "insiders" thinks Texas leads but he doesn't.
- He says that early PT is big for McCulloch and he doesn't want to play behind Malik Jefferson, therefore giving the advantage to the other schools.
- Also, he'll be cutting his list to 3 teams in the next couple of days and announcing another decision date.

FWIW, Hamm will tell you that he's been all over this recruitment with the best information. Lol

Well ya didn't you hear he makes 6 figures?

 

[ThePiombino]

A couple of things from the Hammster.

- A lot of "insiders" thinks Texas leads but he doesn't.
- He says that early PT is big for McCulloch and he doesn't want to play behind Malik Jefferson, therefore giving the advantage to the other schools.
- Also, he'll be cutting his list to 3 teams in the next couple of days and announcing another decision date.

FWIW, Hamm will tell you that he's been all over this recruitment with the best information. Lol

I feel like we can't take anything that dude says seriously, so how do we know how to weed through the BS? lol

 

[NCND]

Stanford have played in the Rose Bowl a bunch of times and the outcome has never mattered much to them recruiting wise. Beating Iowa would be a kind of "meh" result.

Lol

 

[Luckylucci]

I feel like we can't take anything that dude says seriously, so how do we know how to weed through the BS? lol

I really have no idea, honestly. He posts like he's drunk most of the day. So it's either that or he's just fucking nuts. I just post it so we get another perspective/point of view and a laugh.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Just another prayer post for JM to join this class

 

[PANDFAN]

Per Loy, supposedly going to be a signing day decision

 

[Grahambo]

Per Loy, supposedly going to be a signing day decision

ISD not optimistic about him.

 

[rtrn2glory]

Pull to stay home will prolly be too much to overcome

 

[GBdomer]

I think most of the momentum came during BK's in home and that's where the optimism started.

Jamie only one picking ND, rest of the staff has Texas.
GB- ND

 

[TheChosen1]

Top 5 OLB Jeffrey McCulloch has decided against announcing a commitment at the UA Game. Could potentially release a top three soon.

Per Anna

 

[Cackalacky]

This is trending in a down direction it seems.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Once again I don't see any way he doesn't sign with ND. His mom is quoted as saying, "If he doesn't pick ND, he better have a good enough reason to not pick them." It's basically ND, Texas, and Texas A&M. A&M is a mess right now and Texas isn't to far behind.

 

[GBdomer]

Once again I don't see any way he doesn't sign with ND. His mom is quoted as saying, "If he doesn't pick ND, he better have a good enough reason to not pick them." It's basically ND, Texas, and Texas A&M. A&M is a mess right now and Texas isn't to far behind.

I see plenty of ways, now go back to butt chugging Monster and snorting pixie sticks. And just for the record his mother has never been quoted saying that.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I see plenty of ways, now go back to butt chugging Monster and snorting pixie sticks. And just for the record his mother has never been quoted saying that.

Yes his mom did say that. So you apparently don't know anything.

 

[fightingirish26]

Once again I don't see any way he doesn't sign with ND. His mom is quoted as saying, "If he doesn't pick ND, he better have a good enough reason to not pick them." It's basically ND, Texas, and Texas A&M. A&M is a mess right now and Texas isn't to far behind.

you must get massively disappointed on a daily basis