'16 GA ATH Demetris Robertson (Georgia Transfer)

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longliveautrydenson said:
I mean, we also had a TE that's leading the entire NFL in receiving TDs this season. That has to count for something.
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I mean yeah we are def TE U.

Fasano, Rudolph, Eifert, Niklas. Left off Carlson as he is no longer in the league I think and Koyack as he is on practice squad.


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drake29 said:
Maybe it means something if Robertson were a TE recruit...
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We've had a dominant receiving threat five of the past six years at ND, two of whom went in the first round and a third that could end up there. I think that definitely means something.

Edit: Just so we're clear, if you were recruiting a WR to ND, you wouldn't bring up the fact that your former player that came in as a raw tweener-type at TE is currently leading all RBs, WRs, and TEs in touchdowns in the NFL just because he plays a different position? If I were BK, I'd be driving home that I maximized the results with three very different types of receivers in Floyd, Eifert and Fuller and that I could do the same for Robertson.
 
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longliveautrydenson said:
We've had a dominant receiving threat five of the past six years at ND, two of whom went in the first round and a third that could end up there. I think that definitely means something.

Edit: Just so we're clear, if you were recruiting a WR to ND, you wouldn't bring up the fact that your former player that came in as a raw tweener-type at TE is currently leading all RBs, WRs, and TEs in touchdowns in the NFL just because he plays a different position? If I were BK, I'd be driving home that I maximized the results with three very different types of receivers in Floyd, Eifert and Fuller and that I could do the same for Robertson.
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Fair and I agree.


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longliveautrydenson said:
I mean, we also had a TE that's leading the entire NFL in receiving TDs this season. That has to count for something.
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That's how I view it. Eifert was the focal point of the passing attack and he didn't disappoint.

Floyd
Eifert
TJ Jones
Davaris Daniels
Will fuller

So that's 3 elite college players. I'd say Jones was pretty darn productive, and Daniels, it's his own fault but had some special moments.

I think the best skill group since Kelly got to ND is the WR's. Good eye for it, develops them well, and puts them in spots to be successful.
 
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koonja said:
Serious qu and not trying to argue. Would you guys also take fuller's senior year over Robertson for the next 3-4? I'd take Robertson with less thought than the jalon/kelly qu.
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10 times out of 10 you are enamored with the thought of a shiny new toy that came with a lot of recruiting stars next to their name. 10 times out of 10 I will take the player who greatly increases our chances of winning a Natty, and Fuller is another one of those players for next year. I want to see a championship, I don't care how many "elite" recruits we hoard year to year...next year if we lost fuller, who is our #1 receiver or guy who can stretch the field? What does that do to our offense? I would never sacrifice a current or upcoming year for a what-if 3 years from now, now matter how many times you ask it and no matter what recruit you ask it for. If there is a recruit that is going to come in NEXT year, and make us a better team NEXT year as a true freshmen then maybe my answer changes...which is why maybe if you're comparing Robertson to Corey Robinson my answer would change, but not Will Fuller or Jaylon Smith.
 
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10 times out of 10 you are enamored with the thought of a shiny new toy that came with a lot of recruiting stars next to their name. 10 times out of 10 I will take the player who greatly increases our chances of winning a Natty, and Fuller is another one of those players for next year. I want to see a championship, I don't care how many "elite" recruits we hoard year to year...next year if we lost fuller, who is our #1 receiver or guy who can stretch the field? What does that do to our offense? I would never sacrifice a current or upcoming year for a what-if 3 years from now, now matter how many times you ask it and no matter what recruit you ask it for. If there is a recruit that is going to come in NEXT year, and make us a better team NEXT year as a true freshmen then maybe my answer changes...which is why maybe if you're comparing Robertson to Corey Robinson my answer would change, but not Will Fuller or Jaylon Smith.
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100% AGREE
 
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Luckylucci said:
That's how I view it. Eifert was the focal point of the passing attack and he didn't disappoint.

Floyd
Eifert
TJ Jones
Davaris Daniels
Will fuller

So that's 3 elite college players. I'd say Jones was pretty darn productive, and Daniels, it's his own fault but had some special moments.

I think the best skill group since Kelly got to ND is the WR's. Good eye for it, develops them well, and puts them in spots to be successful.
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After what he did with Mardy Gilyard and Will Fuller, there should be no doubt that BK is a WR whisperer.
 
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ThePiombino said:
I love how Bama continues to draw the attention of elite receivers without the benefit of a bona fide QB. Is this still the Julio Jones effect or is it just "Bama" that's grabbing their attention?
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Ridley is solid as mentioned previously. Stewart is still learning the position but was a solid contributor as well. And we lost Foster early due to injury... who had been the most impressive during fall practice. With surfer boy red shirting and Fromm in the current recruiting class, I think we will be fine at QB for a while.

As far as D. Robertson,I think the hiring of Pruitt yesterday put Bama back in the lead. Even though Pruitt coaches the other side of the ball, I believe his relationship with Pruitt and Saban will be tough to beat out. Who knows in the end as these young kids don't always do what we think they will do.
 
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you are crazy if you don't think Bama gets the attention of wr recruits...they get the ball to the receivers...their 2nd leading wr for catches was 2 total behind our #1 in terms of receptions...their leading wr is a complete stud and was a FRESHMAN w/ 75 receptions ...19 better than our #1....NOW fuller had him beat by 8 more yards per catch and 8 more TD's(also one of my fav players)....but they also force fed henry....they use their wr's.....and while they can hang their hat on Julio and Amari 2 HUGE studs, we can hang our hat on Tate/Floyd as our 2 biggest wr's....who do you think resonates with top wr recruits....Tate wasn't even here when BK started and our other biggest weapons during BK's era has been the TE position
 
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longliveautrydenson said:
We've had a dominant receiving threat five of the past six years at ND, two of whom went in the first round and a third that could end up there. I think that definitely means something.

Edit: Just so we're clear, if you were recruiting a WR to ND, you wouldn't bring up the fact that your former player that came in as a raw tweener-type at TE is currently leading all RBs, WRs, and TEs in touchdowns in the NFL just because he plays a different position? If I were BK, I'd be driving home that I maximized the results with three very different types of receivers in Floyd, Eifert and Fuller and that I could do the same for Robertson.
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I get what you're saying, I do...but Eifert and Robertson literally have zero similarities. Even when they split Eifert out wide, he basically ran a fade that turned into a jump ball or a back shoulder throw. I'm all for exploiting every recruiting advantage ND has over the competition but using Eifert as a comp to Robertson is a huge stretch. IMO, it'd be more advantageous to point out that receivers that are smaller in stature have been more successful in ND's offense (or the spread as a whole) as opposed to your pro-style offenses at UGA, BAMA, and Stanford. He's not unlike Amir Carlisle, Tori Hunter, Jr., Will Fuller, etc. Get Robertson the ball underneath in open space and let him weave his way through traffic for huge chunk gains. Then when they cheat up he burns them deep.
 
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drake29 said:
I get what you're saying, I do...but Eifert and Robertson literally have zero similarities. Even when they split Eifert out wide, he basically ran a fade that turned into a jump ball or a back shoulder throw. I'm all for exploiting every recruiting advantage ND has over the competition but using Eifert as a comp to Robertson is a huge stretch. IMO, it'd be more advantageous to point out that receivers that are smaller in stature have been more successful in ND's offense (or the spread as a whole) as opposed to your pro-style offenses at UGA, BAMA, and Stanford. He's not unlike Amir Carlisle, Tori Hunter, Jr., Will Fuller, etc. Get Robertson the ball underneath in open space and let him weave his way through traffic for huge chunk gains. Then when they cheat up he burns them deep.
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which is exactly what Ridley did at bama this year....UNLESS fuller was going on a deep route or tunnel screen he was NON existent
 
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PANDFAN said:
which is exactly what Ridley did at bama this year....UNLESS fuller was going on a deep route or tunnel screen he was NON existent
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Non existent is a stretch.

He dropped plenty of balls on comeback routes and crossing routes....
 
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Sherm Sticky said:
I mean yeah we are def TE U.

Fasano, Rudolph, Eifert, Niklas. Left off Carlson as he is no longer in the league I think and Koyack as he is on practice squad.


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Bravro and McAfee. Thought I heard Koyack's names mentioned during play of the last Thursday Night game.
 
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I get what you're saying, I do...but Eifert and Robertson literally have zero similarities. Even when they split Eifert out wide, he basically ran a fade that turned into a jump ball or a back shoulder throw. I'm all for exploiting every recruiting advantage ND has over the competition but using Eifert as a comp to Robertson is a huge stretch. IMO, it'd be more advantageous to point out that receivers that are smaller in stature have been more successful in ND's offense (or the spread as a whole) as opposed to your pro-style offenses at UGA, BAMA, and Stanford. He's not unlike Amir Carlisle, Tori Hunter, Jr., Will Fuller, etc. Get Robertson the ball underneath in open space and let him weave his way through traffic for huge chunk gains. Then when they cheat up he burns them deep.
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I don't think anyone was saying Eifert was a comp to Robertson, that would be stupid.
 
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longliveautrydenson said:
I don't think anyone was saying Eifert was a comp to Robertson, that would be stupid.
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Yea just like Julio Jones and Robertson aren't the exact same player. It's not about trying to convince these kids that they are the exact same person as you've had before, they don't even want to hear that. Most are about blazing their own trail. It's about convincing them you can out them in a position to be successful and, yes, Eifert's success is a great selling point. It's about the focal point of your passing attack and putting them in the League and stats that get them All American honors. Kelly consistently checks that box. If Davaris Daniels wasn't such a dummy, he'd be there too.
 
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Luckylucci said:
Yea just like Julio Jones and Robertson aren't the exact same player. It's not about trying to convince these kids that they are the exact same person as you've had before, they don't even want to hear that. Most are about blazing their own trail. It's about convincing them you can out them in a position to be successful and, yes, Eifert's success is a great selling point. It's about the focal point of your passing attack and putting them in the League and stats that get them All American honors. Kelly consistently checks that box. If Davaris Daniels wasn't such a dummy, he'd be there too.
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