Post Game Observations (BC '15)...

[wizards8507]

Best play of the night was Farley's onside kick recovery. That was a senior captain making and damn smart football play.

 

[JughedJones]

Who did I bet all my Vbucks that we would win out?

I purged my PM's and lost it. It was someone with a lot more
cash than me!.. so it must be a vet.

Grahambo? TKO? BGIF?

 

[dang227]

As mad as I was at the offense the most concerning part of last night is our vaunted defense gave up two long scoring drives ( 75 yard run and 4th qtr to pull within 3) in the second half to the worst offense in the FBS.


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[JughedJones]

Best play of the night was Farley's onside kick recovery. That was a senior captain making and damn smart football play.

Yessir.

 

[NDRock]

Best play of the night was Farley's onside kick recovery. That was a senior captain making and damn smart football play.

Man, I love Farley.

 

[JughedJones]

Man, I love Farley.

Farley and the Shark are who I'd like to have beers with.


I'll buy.

 

[NDohio]

The biggest positive that comes out of last night other than the win is the experience. Playing in a game in an amazing venue, having a home game in the backyard of the team you are playing, and dealing with the pressure of that game can only help us when we get to the playoffs.

 

[Green Mountains]

Gameball - Chris Brown. He stepped up big time when we needed a down field presence. Only after he started making catches did Will Fuller get open (to start dropping passes). The Chris Brown touchdown catch was a game saver, it was another pick than he took from the defender who had inside position.

 

[Irishcop]

Well I hope that ND gets dropped from the top 4. I hope it wakes ND up. A win is not just a win when trying to make the playoffs. This,ND team has played like s*** for the past two week against two very weak teams. Tired of hearing how good BC's defense is they are 2-8 for crying out loud. ND should have destroyed them. Totally let an average at best Wake Forest defense spend all day in the ND backfield. ND doe not seem motivated at all right now, and they are playing like it. No doubt in my mind ND is out of the top 4 come Tuesday. I would put OU and Iowa ahead of ND.

 

[Cackalacky]

Can we stop calling BC the top d in the country? Statistically, maybe it's true but they gave up 34 to Clemson, 26 to Virginia Tech, 17 to Louisville, and 24 to North Carolina State in the last month.

We torched em too, just couldn't make catches or keep control of the ball. I don't know what's with this team, but we've been like the wicked witch of the west under kelly. A little bit of rain and our fundamentals just melt away.

They are a top five d in every category by all metrics. You can call them whatever you want but they held our top five offense to a total of 19 points, five turnovers and a shitty red zone percentage. They took away the run, the qb run, the qb pass and our number one WR.

That was an epic amount of defense and if they even have half an offense they win that game hands down.

 

[Cackalacky]

my game ball is also to Chris Brown. Close is Amir ...what a great game for him. Also Farley. Senior Captain Notre Dame Man.

 

[kmoose]

They took away the run, the qb run, the qb pass and our number one WR.

That was an epic amount of defense and if they even have half an offense they win that game hands down.

To be fair............ Kizer was 20/38, 320 yards, and 2 TDs.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

To be fair............ Kizer was 20/38, 320 yards, and 2 TDs.

I thought he did more than enough, minus the awful red zone showing. Would have been worse if CB didn't bail him out too.

 

[Cackalacky]

To be fair............ Kizer was 20/38, 320 yards, and 2 TDs.

True...but how many interceptions? All the yards in the world mean dick if you don't score. It could have been 42-0...would a coulda shoulda.

Let's not sugar coat how tough completing those 20 passes were. Every pass was defended well and few were truly open that he attempted and he threw several more that could have been picked. But outside of two drives really he struggled and his receivers did not help him at all. They was a time where he was 0-8 on pass attempts. What concerns me is he had to throw 38 times. If you want to protect your young QB run the ball. Well Procise goes down and they immediately start chucking it all over the place.

 

[tko]

Who did I bet all my Vbucks that we would win out?

I purged my PM's and lost it. It was someone with a lot more
cash than me!.. so it must be a vet.

Grahambo? TKO? BGIF?

Wasn't me. Chips are on the table for Stanford. I hope we are dogs and the media gives us zero chance. This team needs to be counted out and get a massive chip on their shoulders like MSU at OSU.

 

[texbender]

1. This was an ugly game, and you just want to come out on the winning end of these kinds of games. We did that. There's no sense in speculating what the CFP Committee will do on Tuesday. Tuesday will come soon enough, and we will know for sure.

2. As ugly as it was, there were some highlights: I believe they said that Fuller went over 1,000 yards for the second season in a row. And Prosise is over 1,000 yards rushing. So that's good.

3. This BC defense was #1 defense against the run; #5 against the pass; #1 in total defense, and #3 is scoring. ND put up almost 450 yards and almost 20 points. And they did this despite Will Fuller not having an official touch until, what, the 3rd Quarter?

4. Just about everyone said, before the season, that they would be happy with a 10 win season, this year. And that was BEFORE Zaire and Folston were lost for the season. There's no guarantee of making the playoffs, but even if they don't, this team has had a great season.

5. It looked to me, in the first half, like most of the turnovers were the result of players trying too hard to make that extra yard or two, or to make a play on each and every snap. Sometimes you just have to play within yourself, and let the game play out naturally.


6. I'm a little concerned about Kelly's post game interview on the field where he was asked about KVR and Prosise, heading into next week at Stanford. He responded, "Well, we'll just get the next guys ready to play...." So it doesn't sound good on the injury front

On a very sloppy night, my game ball is going to Justin Yoon, who has solidified the kicking game. I'm very happy with the performance of the freshman this year.

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Pretty good summary above. For me, glad to be 10-1, but disappointed in the play of the team the past 2 weeks. Team not playing like a top 4 team, and it won't surprise me if they fail to make the playoff. Hope they play well vs Stanford, will be a tough game.

 

[kmoose]

True...but how many interceptions? All the yards in the world mean dick if you don't score. It could have been 42-0...would a coulda shoulda.

Let's not sugar coat how tough completing those 20 passes were. Every pass was defended well and few were truly open that he attempted and he threw several more that could have been picked. But outside of two drives really he struggled and his receivers did not help him at all. They was a time where he was 0-8 on pass attempts. What concerns me is he had to throw 38 times. If you want to protect your young QB run the ball. Well Procise goes down and they immediately start chucking it all over the place.

I was just saying that BC didn't take away the QB pass. We gained 300+ yards and scored 2 TDs via the passing game.

 

[Cackalacky]

I was just saying that BC didn't take away the QB pass. We gained 300+ yards and scored 2 TDs via the passing game.

I know what you were saying. And stats line don't tell the whole story.

But whatever... not doing this.

 

[kmoose]

I know what you were saying. And stats line don't tell the whole story.

But whatever... not doing this.

Look, I'm sorry. I'm sure your statement that BC's defense took away the QB pass was probably just born out of frustration with how the game went down. But all I did was point out that the passing game was not shut down. I didn't claim that we had a prolific, or even great, night passing the ball. So please don't "whatever" me, just because you misspoke and I pointed it out.

 

[BeatSC]

Jaylon needs to work on his hands?


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Doesn't get too many opportunities to touch the ball and let an easy int go right thru them. So far rarely misses a tackle. I think his wing span is extra long where Schmidt's is extra short.

 

[IrishLax]

After sleeping on it, the most disappointing thing to me about the game is that the coaches did their part. The game plan was great. We attacked them effectively with Carlisle and Brown all game as they double covered Fuller. We successfully turned the corner many times with Prosise, and had some big runs (BC has only given up three 30 yard runs this year... we have one of them).

But players make plays... not coaches. 5 turnovers, not a single one of them was a "good" turnover (like an effort play that goes awry) Really could've been 7 or 8 turnovers.

70 yard kick return... why? That's 3 points.

80 yard TD run... why? How do you blow your assignments that badly against a QB that CAN ONLY RUN THE BALL. That's 7 (well, 6) points.

Garbage time TD to make the score look bad... why? Can't get two turnovers that were there for the taking, bad execution of spying the QB despite playing zone, lackadaisical pass rush.And because we're playing our starters longer than we should be, KVR gets hurt. So 7 points and an injury kicker. Yay.

Maybe this team rallies for Stanford, but this awfully reminiscent of the injury death spiral that culminated in our loss to Northwestern followed shortly after by a west coast trip that did not go well. I have little faith that this defense can keep Stanford under 35 points.

 

[FearTheBeard]

I thought we looked soft. Guys didnt look like they wanted to hit, there were times someone was wrapped up and it looked like the guy coming in to finish off would ease up. Maybe it was just me, but the team didnt look like they showed good body language or much fight. I understand it was a shitty game but at times it looked like they were ready to pack up and go home

 

[kmoose]

After sleeping on it, the most disappointing thing to me about the game is that the coaches did their part. The game plan was great. We attacked them effectively with Carlisle and Brown all game as they double covered Fuller. We successfully turned the corner many times with Prosise, and had some big runs (BC has only given up three 30 yard runs this year... we have one of them).

But players make plays... not coaches. 5 turnovers, not a single one of them was a "good" turnover (like an effort play that goes awry) Really could've been 7 or 8 turnovers.

70 yard kick return... why? That's 3 points.

80 yard TD run... why? How do you blow your assignments that badly against a QB that CAN ONLY RUN THE BALL. That's 7 (well, 6) points.

Garbage time TD to make the score look bad... why? Can't get two turnovers that were there for the taking, bad execution of spying the QB despite playing zone, lackadaisical pass rush.And because we're playing our starters longer than we should be, KVR gets hurt. So 7 points and an injury kicker. Yay.

Maybe this team rallies for Stanford, but this awfully reminiscent of the injury death spiral that culminated in our loss to Northwestern followed shortly after by a west coast trip that did not go well. I have little faith that this defense can keep Stanford under 35 points.

I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded. If I am recalling correctly, the outcome was still in doubt when Russell got hurt. Are you suggesting that we should pull our starters in the 4thQ, even if the game is not in hand?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded. If I am recalling correctly, the outcome was still in doubt when Russell got hurt. Are you suggesting that we should pull our starters in the 4thQ, even if the game is not in hand?

I think he is saying ND should have put enough distance on BC to have the backups in for the fourth quarter.

 

[Cackalacky]

Look, I'm sorry. I'm sure your statement that BC's defense took away the QB pass was probably just born out of frustration with how the game went down. But all I did was point out that the passing game was not shut down. I didn't claim that we had a prolific, or even great, night passing the ball. So please don't "whatever" me, just because you misspoke and I pointed it out.

Please stop pointing to the stat line as the end all be all of how well our qb play was. It was not great. 320 yards and 14 points and how many turnovers. They did stop him because he only put up 14 points. How many ugly contested balls.. how many bad reads did he make because of what they game planned? How many times did he misread the defense. The majority of the production came from the slot on one drive and Brown on another and even those were mostly defended well. The fact that you can post one line of numbers means dick. Please stop quoting me. I have no intent of arguing all day over the number 320 and 2 .

 

[IrishLax]

I'm not sure what you mean by the bolded. If I am recalling correctly, the outcome was still in doubt when Russell got hurt. Are you suggesting that we should pull our starters in the 4thQ, even if the game is not in hand?

Obviously not. I'm suggesting that if we didn't play like assholes and put the game away 42-0 like we should've he -- and others -- could've been resting virtually the whole 4th quarter.

 

[kmoose]

Obviously not. I'm suggesting that if we didn't play like assholes and put the game away 42-0 like we should've he -- and others -- could've been resting virtually the whole 4th quarter.

But you are assuming that we SHOULD HAVE been up 42-0. And I just don't think that's an accurate assumption. The most any team has scored on BC in the first half of a game this year was 20 pts., by Virginia Tech. They gave up 17 in the first half to Clemson and Louisville, and I don't think anyone else scored double digits in the first half on them. So that's not really a fair assumption, to say we SHOULD HAVE been up 42-0, or even that the game should be essentially over after 3 quarters. It could have worked out that way, if we had converted all of our RZ chances into TDs. But BC's defense is #7 in RZ Defense. In 27 trips into the RZ, opponents had converted only 8 TDs, going into last night's game. It's not like this was some kind of glorified scrimmage. There's plenty to work on and clean up, based on last night. But to blame Russell's injury on us not putting the #1 defense in the country away in 3 quarters just doesn't seem right.

 

[pumpdog20]

I think all the injuries are finally catching up with the team. I guess the game plan against ND is to be extremely physical and strip the ball. Sounds like the epitome of what we'll see next week, only they'll be a top 10 team.

The good thing I do see is that when times are going rough next week, we'll have Kizer trying to rally and not Golsen moping.

 

[IrishLax]

But you are assuming that we SHOULD HAVE been up 42-0. And I just don't think that's an accurate assumption. The most any team has scored on BC in the first half of a game this year was 20 pts., by Virginia Tech. They gave up 17 in the first half to Clemson and Louisville, and I don't think anyone else scored double digits in the first half on them. So that's not really a fair assumption, to say we SHOULD HAVE been up 42-0, or even that the game should be essentially over after 3 quarters. It could have worked out that way, if we had converted all of our RZ chances into TDs. But BC's defense is #7 in RZ Defense. In 27 trips into the RZ, opponents had converted only 8 TDs, going into last night's game. It's not like this was some kind of glorified scrimmage. There's plenty to work on and clean up, based on last night. But to blame Russell's injury on us not putting the #1 defense in the country away in 3 quarters just doesn't seem right.

I literally don't even know what we're talking about at this point, so I'm just gonna leave this thread and get on with my Sunday.

 

[Cackalacky]

I think all the injuries are finally catching up with the team. I guess the game plan against ND is to be extremely physical and strip the ball. Sounds like the epitome of what we'll see next week, only they'll be a top 10 team.

The good thing I do see is that when times are going rough next week, we'll have Kizer trying to rally and not Golsen moping.

I don't know what other teams were doing this year but Clemson, WF, and BC all committed to stopping the run and stopping Fuller. They were all successful at it. If I am any team playing ND, this is what I do.

We have got to start getting more production from the slot and Brown this week because Stanford will do something similar. If they don't, they deserve all the Fuller they are gonna get.