'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

[IrishinSyria]

Golson's really struggling against USF but to be fair his line is getting blown up and there's been more than a few drops.

 

[Irish2155]

He hasn't look very good so far.

 

[IrishInFl]

Golson's really struggling against USF but to be fair his line is getting blown up and there's been more than a few drops.

It was raining all morning here, so the drops make sense.

 

[EddytoNow]

He hasn't look very good so far.

That long pass on the last series could have been a completion. It was in the receiver's hands. Everett is missing the sure-handedness of the ND receivers up to this point, but there's a long way to go.

 

[NDinTEXAS]

You can see the wide eyed look in Golsens face that you saw at Notre Dame. He is getting down and doubting himself right now cant't wait to see how he responds.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

You can see the wide eyed look in Golsens face that you saw at Notre Dame. He is getting down and doubting himself right now cant't wait to see how he responds.

Hopefully with more than -3 yards net

 

[koonja]

Give me Malik ALL DAY. Attitude, accuracy, decision making, athleticism, did I mention attitude?

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Give me Malik ALL DAY. Attitude, accuracy, decision making, athleticism, did I mention attitude?

You forgot to mention attitude.

 

[ThePiombino]

Give me Malik ALL DAY. Attitude, accuracy, decision making, athleticism, did I mention attitude?

Pump the brakes. Zaire may well turn out to be a better all-around QB than Golson when all is said and done, but to say he's a more accurate passer is a bit much. Agreed on all other attributes, ESPECIALLY intangibles.

 

[FightingIrishLover7]

Did I read correctly that he had 6 yards on 1 for 9 passing in the first half?

 

[woolybug25]

Pump the brakes. Zaire may well turn out to be a better all-around QB than Golson when all is said and done, but to say he's a more accurate passer is a bit much. Agreed on all other attributes, ESPECIALLY intangibles.

We'll see after today, and the game experience is limited, but Malik has been extremely accurate so far in games if you look at completion percentage.

 

[BGIF]

Did I read correctly that he had 6 yards on 1 for 9 passing in the first half?

Yes, FSU had more punts, 7, than passing yds, 6.

In the 2nd half he's 5/8 for about 55 yds.


3 plays later in the 2nd half Golson's 7-10 96 yds, 1 TD

 

[ThePiombino]

We'll see after today, and the game experience is limited, but Malik has been extremely accurate so far in games if you look at completion percentage.

No doubt that he has been VERY impressive in that department thus far - including leading FBS QBs in comp % over 10 yards I believe in week one. My point is two fold:

1) EXTREMELY limited sample size
2) Zaire was never known for his accuracy - obviously something that can be improved upon - while Golson generally was.

I have no doubt we're in a better position with Zaire at the helm. I would rather Zaire prove himself over time rather than anoint him the better passer at this junction.

 

[returnofthemack]

Yes, FSU had more punts, 7, than passing yds, 6.

In the 2nd half he's 5/8 for about 55 yds.


3 plays later in the 2nd half Golson's 7-10 96 yds, 1 TD

Wait, but how could he have improved in the 2nd half? He had a *gasp* "wide-eyed look" and besides, we all know how much he folds under pressure, just like when he won* the FSU game and beat Stanford.

 

[ThePiombino]

Wait, but how could he have improved in the 2nd half? He had a *gasp* "wide-eyed look" and besides, we all know how much he folds under pressure, just like when he won* the FSU game and beat Stanford.

Coach(es) being paid millions to make half-time adjustments making...half-time adjustments?

 

[returnofthemack]

Coach(es) being paid millions to make half-time adjustments making...half-time adjustments?

Are you implying Brian Kelly couldn't make half-time adjustments? Pretty sure that'll get you burned at the stake on this board. Better go along with the narrative that Golson is a horrible QB and the failures of the 2014 season are solely his fault.

 

[BGIF]

Are you implying Brian Kelly couldn't make half-time adjustments? Pretty sure that'll get you burned at the stake on this board. Better go along with the narrative that Golson is a horrible QB and the failures of the 2014 season are solely his fault.

Didn't the INTs and Fumbles come in both halves?

 

[ThePiombino]

Are you implying Brian Kelly couldn't make half-time adjustments? Pretty sure that'll get you burned at the stake on this board. Better go along with the narrative that Golson is a horrible QB and the failures of the 2014 season are solely his fault.

Not implying that in the least. Just making sure we realize that there is more to play in the tale of two halves in Tallahassee than solely Golson.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)

I would digress at this point. Golson looked awful for 30 minutes against a crappy team, and now he looks serviceable against a crappy team. Forgive me if I don't get a boner watching this second half performance.

*Jumbo is always heralded as this magical "QB whisperer." All I can say is today made me appreciate BK's ability to get the most out of his QB's, although it took him a couple years to figure it out (2011 debacles).

 

[wizards8507]

Everett Golson Status Report: Are the Noles Getting What They Need From Their New Quarterback? «

 

[Irish YJ]

https://vine.co/v/eUQbJA6BuI2

 

[Irish#1]

Reads like some of Golson's issues might be related to having a lousy O-line. I don't think I've ever seen a lineman get hammered like that.

 

[ulukinatme]

Fisher is doing what I expected with Golson. He's minimizing the possibility of turnovers by keeping the ball out of his hands as much as possible. Everett is throwing between 20-25 times a game, and when you've got Dalvin Cook running the ball it's an easy choice to hand the ball off with a playmaker at RB. That OL is pretty bad in pass protection though, from the limited plays I saw against Texas State and BC.

 

[ab2cmiller]

Florida State football podcast: BC review and is Everett Golson the answer? - Tomahawk Nation

After rewtaching Florida State's win over Boston College, we discuss anything we may have missed in the instant reaction podcast from late Friday.

Much of the focus is on Everett Golson, who did a good job scrambling and threw the ball OK in the first half, and did not turn the football over.

But overall, Golson is not playing all that well. He's not very accurate, and particularly inaccurate within the target zone, asking his receivers to routinely make catches that completely kill any opportunity for run after the catch (FSU is 126th in explosive pass rating). Golson is also extremely late on his throws, which allows the defense to catch up and again, kills long play opportunities and opportunities to run after the catch. Golson seems very slow to read defenses, and often doesn't identify the open receiver.

The other issue is that Golson is missing run checks and is not correctly running the zone read, which means his legs are not being used. We know Golson is missing these because Jimbo Fisher came out and said it.

Even with this defense, FSU will not win the ACC with Everett Golson playing at this level. But there is hope: he's only had seven weeks of practice. He'll have three more under his belt before FSU plays Miami.

 

[ulukinatme]

Florida State football podcast: BC review and is Everett Golson the answer? - Tomahawk Nation

After rewtaching Florida State's win over Boston College, we discuss anything we may have missed in the instant reaction podcast from late Friday.

Much of the focus is on Everett Golson, who did a good job scrambling and threw the ball OK in the first half, and did not turn the football over.

But overall, Golson is not playing all that well. He's not very accurate, and particularly inaccurate within the target zone, asking his receivers to routinely make catches that completely kill any opportunity for run after the catch (FSU is 126th in explosive pass rating). Golson is also extremely late on his throws, which allows the defense to catch up and again, kills long play opportunities and opportunities to run after the catch. Golson seems very slow to read defenses, and often doesn't identify the open receiver.

The other issue is that Golson is missing run checks and is not correctly running the zone read, which means his legs are not being used. We know Golson is missing these because Jimbo Fisher came out and said it.

Even with this defense, FSU will not win the ACC with Everett Golson playing at this level. But there is hope: he's only had seven weeks of practice. He'll have three more under his belt before FSU plays Miami.

Been saying that those ones for awhile, a lot of people have of course. He's always struggled to go through his progressions and sit in the pocket. Seems like if his first option isn't open he's more inclined to take off, occasionally he would get to his second and third receivers, but I didn't see it often at ND. As far as the read option, it's no secret he struggled with it. Just about every Kelly QB has other than Malik. Kizer may be good with it, but he hasn't really run it and I wouldn't want him to tbh. When it comes to the read option I think some QBs are just born with a good feel and instinct on the keep/hand off concept, it seems to be a difficult thing to coach.

 

[PANDFAN]

Been saying that those ones for awhile, a lot of people have of course. He's always struggled to go through his progressions and sit in the pocket. Seems like if his first option isn't open he's more inclined to take off, occasionally he would get to his second and third receivers, but I didn't see it often at ND. As far as the read option, it's no secret he struggled with it. Just about every Kelly QB has other than Malik. Kizer may be good with it, but he hasn't really run it and I wouldn't want him to tbh. When it comes to the read option I think some QBs are just born with a good feel and instinct on the keep/hand off concept, it seems to be a difficult thing to coach.

you have to make a split sec read..if the de is crashing..its more of doing it so much that it becomes 2nd nature in going through progressions...he seems to not HAVE IT..you have to be sure of your choice as well

 

[ulukinatme]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brian Kelly goes in-depth on how close <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a>'s QBs are this year, adds: “Last year it wasn’t like that.” Hmmmm ...</p>— Matt Fortuna (@Matt_Fortuna) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Fortuna/status/648198935408967680">September 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Bogtrotter07]

Someone, pour Everett a cranberry juice!

 

[sportallyr]

Hard to believe that he still hasn't turned the ball over yet this year. Granted, FSU hasn't played the toughest of competition yet, but still hard to believe. It makes me sick to think about how much better the Irish would have done last year if he had just protected the damn ball!

 

[ulukinatme]

Hard to believe that he still hasn't turned the ball over yet this year. Granted, FSU hasn't played the toughest of competition yet, but still hard to believe. It makes me sick to think about how much better the Irish would have done last year if he had just protected the damn ball!

It's not surprising, really. The writing was on the wall when Golson went to FSU, if they were going to use Golson it would be in a much more limited role. Credit Fisher, he knows how to get the most out of his QBs, and he is getting the most out of Everett by asking him to do as little as possible in their offense. By minimizing Everett's involvement he's reducing the opportunity for turnovers. Everett is averaging about 25 passes a game which is much less than at ND. That's roughly 12 fewer passes a game for Golson compared to last year. He's also averaging 50% less scrambles, although this number is harder to gauge based on stat sheets since sacks are incorporated there. Fisher passed the ball a lot more often with Jameis at the helm. For the most part this current offense runs through Cook and Pender and Golson is managing the game.

Just look at Golson this year compared to last year. At ND at 5-0/6-0 he had some turnovers, was on everyone's Heisman ballot, and was putting up monster stats as most of the offense was on his shoulders. This year FSU is currently 5-0, Golson has no turnovers, and yet he's not on anyone's Heisman ballot.