Did Urban Meyer and OSU dispel a couple of notions ast year?

[Irish Storm]

1. You need an experienced qb to win a title.
2, You need an elite qb to win a title.

What can our program and coaching staff learn from that?

 

[ozzman]

1. You need an experienced qb to win a title.
2, You need an elite qb to win a title.

What can our program and coaching staff learn from that?

Play an easy schedule and get hot at the right time?

 

[ACamp1900]

Our staff can learn you don't win titles anymore unless you sell you academic soul and play a total shit schedule... that's pretty much all I see that tOSU can teach us.

 

[BobbyMac]

1. You need an experienced qb to win a title.
2, You need an elite qb to win a title.

What can our program and coaching staff learn from that?

Ok everyone... let's help Storm stay on a positive streak.

EVERYTHING can be learned. MZ and Barrett are near mirror images of each other skill set wise. Look at rankings, Elite 11, bios, whatever. Do what OSU did offensively and hope MZ has stronger ankles which I believe the extra 15-20 pounds he'll carry next year over what JT played at last year will afford him.

Good comeback post Storm... keep it up!

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[NCND]

Our staff can learn you don't win titles anymore unless you sell you academic soul and play a total shit schedule... that's pretty much all I see that tOSU can teach us.

What about teaching ND about the mythical "can't run with 8 in the box myth"? If I hear that excuse this year my head will explode.

 

[edgesofsanity]

1. You need an experienced qb to win a title.
2, You need an elite qb to win a title.

Both Barrett and Jones were in the top 10 of QB ratings against Top 40 competition.

Link

/lies, damn lies, etc.
//Golson was 71st

 

[DillonHall]

5 of the last 6 championships have been won by first-year QBs.

 

[gkIrish]

What we learned is that we should run Ohio St.'s offense. We have nearly the same talent at Running Back, equal talent on the OL, and arguably better WR/TE.

 

[Luckylucci]

What about teaching ND about the mythical "can't run with 8 in the box myth"? If I hear that excuse this year my head will explode.

Not an excuse, just smart football. I'll assume that you understand football, at the very least a beginners level. When your QB can't run with the ball, running on an 8 man box is extremely difficult and a terrible idea. Having Cardale Jones or Tommy Rees is a big difference. Ex. LSU game, we ran all over the best D in the SEC, statistically speaking.

With that said, its still not something you go into a game wanting to do. Just because OSU did it to win a national title doesn't mean coaches are in their offices thinking to themselves "C'mon guys, lets figure out a way to run on more 8 man boxes." Your posts are becoming equally as silly as Irish Storm's.

 

[rtrn2glory]

What we learned is that we should run Ohio St.'s offense. We have nearly the same talent at Running Back, equal talent on the OL, and arguably better WR/TE.

BINGO

if we would commit to running the football like Urban did, we could see similar results.

question is and always has been will BK's thick headedness to throw the ball reign supreme like it has recently.

 

[NCND]

Not an excuse, just smart football. I'll assume that you understand football, at the very least a beginners level. When your QB can't run with the ball, running on an 8 man box is extremely difficult and a terrible idea. Having Cardale Jones or Tommy Rees is a big difference. Ex. LSU game, we ran all over the best D in the SEC, statistically speaking.

With that said, its still not something you go into a game wanting to do. Just because OSU did it to win a national title doesn't mean coaches are in their offices thinking to themselves "C'mon guys, lets figure out a way to run on more 8 man boxes." Your posts are becoming equally as silly as Irish Storm's.

I could care less what u think about my post. Have u noticed that teams that run the ball effectively NEVER make excuses like that?

 

[Luckylucci]

First of all you did absolutely nothing to prove your previous point. You simply sound like a child pouting. When involved in a debate information is important, not tatrums.

OSU ran for 108 yards and avg. 2.7yds/carry against VT and lost, what happened?

They ended up with 217 yards on a measly 3.8yds/carry and almost lost to a terrible PSU team. What happened?

See now you're backed into a corner because anything you say would be an excuse but good running teams don't make excuses.

Or is it because its football and there is another teams scheme that you have to take into account. Now there's an interesting thought.

 

[Irish YJ]

Dismissing what they accomplished by saying they sold out, and had a trash schedule is sour grapes. Some truth to both, but sour grapes. After the loss to VT, they handled their business, and won the games they were supposed to while we gave up 2 at home we should have won, and got throttled on the road twice.

Yes we had injuries, but you simply don't take a home loss to NW, I don't care what you say. The other losses I can talk myself into. Urban Liar handled his trash schedule, then pummeled Whiskey 59-0, handled Bama ini the second half, and then dispatched Nike U by more than 3 TDs. I hate Urbie, and OSU, but they showed a lot of people how it can be done. The only comfort I took was that I didn't have to hear SEC, SEC, SEC during the offseason. F OSU, F Urban, but they showed up and performed when they needed to.

 

[Rocket89]

First of all you did absolutely nothing to prove your previous point. You simply sound like a child pouting. When involved in a debate information is important, not tatrums.

OSU ran for 108 yards and avg. 2.7yds/carry against VT and lost, what happened?

They ended up with 217 yards on a measly 3.8yds/carry and almost lost to a terrible PSU team. What happened?

See now you're backed into a corner because anything you say would be an excuse but good running teams don't make excuses.

Or is it because its football and there is another teams scheme that you have to take into account. Now there's an interesting thought.

Or just take a look at 2010 Florida.

The one year (and Meyer has done a ludicrous job at recruiting, ID'ing, and developing talent at quarterback) Meyer didn't have a difference making runner at QB since he got into the P5 conferences, his offense went into the dumps.

If Meyer can't just magically impose his will to make a great run game why do people think it can be done by anyone else just because you want to?

 

[NCND]

Dismissing what they accomplished by saying they sold out, and had a trash schedule is sour grapes. Some truth to both, but sour grapes. After the loss to VT, they handled their business, and won the games they were supposed to while we gave up 2 at home we should have won, and got throttled on the road twice.

Yes we had injuries, but you simply don't take a home loss to NW, I don't care what you say. The other losses I can talk myself into. Urban Liar handled his trash schedule, then pummeled Whiskey 59-0, handled Bama ini the second half, and then dispatched Nike U by more than 3 TDs. I hate Urbie, and OSU, but they showed a lot of people how it can be done. The only comfort I took was that I didn't have to hear SEC, SEC, SEC during the offseason. F OSU, F Urban, but they showed up and performed when they needed to.

Thank you.

 

[Luckylucci]

Thank you.

Haha, really. You can't eloquently prove your point so you just quote others.

Also, that was a good post but has absolutely nothing to do with your previous posts.

 

[NCND]

Haha, really. You can't eloquently prove your point so you just quote others.

Also, that was a good post but has absolutely nothing to do with your previous posts.

ok

 

[Irish Storm]

First of all you did absolutely nothing to prove your previous point. You simply sound like a child pouting. When involved in a debate information is important, not tatrums.

OSU ran for 108 yards and avg. 2.7yds/carry against VT and lost, what happened?

They ended up with 217 yards on a measly 3.8yds/carry and almost lost to a terrible PSU team. What happened?

See now you're backed into a corner because anything you say would be an excuse but good running teams don't make excuses.

Or is it because its football and there is another teams scheme that you have to take into account. Now there's an interesting thought.

Is it possible that they just got better as the season wore on?

Again: we need to learn from them.

 

[Luckylucci]

Is it possible that they just got better as the season wore on?

Again: we need to learn from them.

Well that would be an excuse according to our dear friend NCND, right?

 

[GoldenDome]

Play an easy schedule and get hot at the right time?

This is so off. Sorry bro, but OSU manhandled Alabama like they were little kids. I have not seen a Saban team get their panties handed to them in a long long time. If any team had an excuse to be offensively deficient it was them. If anything, the SEC West was vastly overrated.

 

[NCND]

Well that would be an excuse according to our dear friend NCND, right?

Oh thanks for considering me your dear friend, much appreciated. OSU played great. We can use the "weak schedule " excuse all day long it doesn't matter. They beat down Bama and executed the gameplan well with the "next man in". Maybe that's what ND should learn from OSU.

 

[Classic Irish]

As an FYI: Irish Storm was banned from another ND site for trolling. I surmise he's an Ohio State fan masquerading as an ND fan.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Pull the trigger mods. He's been trolling from the jump. He's not even good at it, embarrassingly enough.

 

[Wild Bill]

As an FYI: Irish Storm was banned from another ND site for trolling. I surmise he's an Ohio State fan masquerading as an ND fan.

Fucking nerd.

 

[irishfan]

What we learned is that we should run Ohio St.'s offense. We have nearly the same talent at Running Back, equal talent on the OL, and arguably better WR/TE.

This completely. Pound the ball and take your shots downfield when possible. OSU wasn't lights out on D by any means (although they were opportunistic), but their offense was able to stay on the field and keep them out of crap situations. We have the OL, the Backs, and the big play WRs for this offense completely.

I know this thread is pretty much just a troll job--and I do hate OSU/Urban--but there are a lot of things that BK and staff can learn from the way they coached last season.

 

[IrishLax]

Pull the trigger mods. He's been trolling from the jump. He's not even good at it, embarrassingly enough.

I know it's really just sad.

 

[Redbar]

Hammertime.

 

[MNIrishman]

 

[Irish YJ]

This completely. Pound the ball and take your shots downfield when possible. OSU wasn't lights out on D by any means (although they were opportunistic), but their offense was able to stay on the field and keep them out of crap situations. We have the OL, the Backs, and the big play WRs for this offense completely.

I know this thread is pretty much just a troll job--and I do hate OSU/Urban--but there are a lot of things that BK and staff can learn from the way they coached last season.

To say a team that limited Oregon and goose egged Wisconsin does not have a good D is.......?

Can't give all the credit to Elliot and the team pounding the ball and keeping the other team off the field.

I do agree with you and GK that we can learn a ton from their O

 

[alohagoirish]

We may not have won the title but we went undefeated and to the title game with a totally inexperienced redshirt QB. So we sort of dispelled those cliché's ourselves a couple of years ago ....as have many other teams.

We did it with a strong run game , good QB play and a top 5 defense!

So there isn't one simple conclusion to draw from Urban's success other then great coaching and game strategy can offset other problems.