'16 IN DE Auston Robertson (MSU Verbal)

[GoldenDomer]

I think BK should personally recruit the big time Indiana kids. No reason to let them get away besides academic issues or just not liking Notre Dame.

 

[GBdomer]

with him picking OSU on June 7th, along with Mack, our only shots with them will have to flipping at a later date.

What does this even mean?

 

[NDdomer2]

Not sure where you came up with that. We'll be having a Junior Day on March 27th and hopefully a significant amount of contact. Plenty of chances to make an impression prior to then. Now whether or not that changes anything, who knows.

Just opinion that they both will pick OSU that day, which naturally would mean they would have to flip for them to end up at ND.

What does this even mean?

I understand how English can be hard to comprehend for you.

 

[GBdomer]

Just opinion that they both will pick OSU that day, which naturally would mean they would have to flip for them to end up at ND.



I understand how English can be hard to comprehend for you.

Well I wasn't the only one to comment on your post, so carry along. I will just go along with your prediction.

 

[Luckylucci]

Just opinion that they both will pick OSU that day, which naturally would mean they would have to flip for them to end up at ND.



I understand how English can be hard to comprehend for you.

I share the opinion that if today was the day they'd both pick OSU and it's going to be much tougher to get Mack's mind changed than Robertson's but that wasn't the point of contention. You said that the only shot we have is to flip them at a later date. That just isn't very accurate. They both will be on campus again before they decide. More than likely we'll also be out to visit them and have significant communication. That is all "a shot" prior to them deciding.

 

[Johannes]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Quick note on 2016 Fort Wayne stars Austin Mack and Auston Robertson. (Premium)

<a href="http://t.co/ThGzXGthr0">http://t.co/ThGzXGthr0</a> <a href="http://t.co/U6TJqJoFW9">pic.twitter.com/U6TJqJoFW9</a></p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/status/570348534827872257">February 24, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Auston will be at ND for the March junior day. Also reported by 247:

Robertson Planning Junior Day Visit To Notre Dame

 

[NDdomer2]

I share the opinion that if today was the day they'd both pick OSU and it's going to be much tougher to get Mack's mind changed than Robertson's but that wasn't the point of contention. You said that the only shot we have is to flip them at a later date. That just isn't very accurate. They both will be on campus again before they decide. More than likely we'll also be out to visit them and have significant communication. That is all "a shot" prior to them deciding.

We have "a shot" with every recruit that we offer by this logic and we all know that's not the case. If we want to talk odds instead, I put them at low, regardless of future visits or communication.

E.g. Hilliard - we had a shot, but there at the end we really didn't even though he was still visiting and communicating with us.

Again, all just my opinion.

 

[Luckylucci]

We have "a shot" with every recruit that we offer by this logic and we all know that's not the case. If we want to talk odds instead, I put them at low, regardless of future visits or communication.

E.g. Hilliard - we had a shot, but there at the end we really didn't even though he was still visiting and communicating with us.

Again, all just my opinion.

What? That makes very little sense. I said that they'll both be on campus and have a lot of communication with the staff and you say that logic applies to all recruits. We may have to agree to disagree on this because I have no idea what you're talking about now.

You said we have no shot until after they commit. I pointed out that's not true and now your saying we are the same position with them as every other recruit in the country.

 

[MoreTeo]

So Robertson is a big OSU lean or does he just have OSU out in front at this moment with time for ND to make up ground?

 

[PANDFAN]

So Robertson is a big OSU lean or does he just have OSU out in front at this moment with time for ND to make up ground?

more so that his buddy Mack is more of a lean to them or they are out in front by a good margin...they would like to play together...He is more than open at this point...if they were announcing today it would be osu but as lucci noted..for his buddy mack to drive on his own to the carolina's , it certainly isn't the lean/(margin) that people had thought...that is a lot of driving, $$ for family and time if he wasn't open to others.

 

[Luckylucci]

FWIW, I read an article the other day that had MSU leading. Apparently he's told some close to him, TIFWIW, that MSU was in the lead as he has a very good relationship with Coach Dantonio. So I think he's is much more open that people realize.

 

[PANDFAN]

Scout Recruiting - National Signing Day Coverage, Latest Commits, Top Prospects and More Front Page
Fort Wayne four-star defensive end Auston Robertson was one of the highest ranked players performing at last weekend's Pylon 7on7 in Youngstown. Robertson, who was at the Best of the Midwest Combine earlier this month, discussed his motivation for performing at these events.

Auston Robertson was one of the highest rated players in action last weekend at the Pylon 7on7 tournament in Youngstown, and four-star defensive end from Fort Wayne (IN) impressed with not only his physical presence, but the attitude he displays in competition.
Robertson, 6-foot-4, 230-pounds, is the number-11 defensive end in the country. He also worked out the week before at the Best of the Midwest Combine in Indianapolis. With numerous scholarship offers to his credit, why does Robertson continue to attend these types of events?
"Things have gone great for me, and I've enjoyed the recruiting process," Robertson explained. "Going to a lot of these camps has really helped me handle the process, and stay focused on getting better. I have good people around me, and they all help keep me where I need to be."
"I would tell the younger players out here to not be intimidated by players that are rated high," he added. "Just work as hard as you can, and listen to your coaches, and things will work out fine. I love to compete, so coming to an event like this gives me an opportunity to get better."
"I'm not for offers, so it's all about competition for me," he continued. "There are no defensive ends in 7on7, so I play linebacker to learn about playing in coverage. I want to be better at that area, which makes me versatile on the field. If someone wants to play me standing up, I want to be able to do that and this really helps me with that."
With offers from several top programs, Robertson is going to be faced with a tough decision one day. He is in the process of learning about all of the schools that have offered.
"I would say Michigan State, Ohio State and Notre Dame are sticking out right now, and those would be my top-three," he reported. "Notre Dame has a great coaching staff, and of course that diploma means so much. I have a good relationship with those coaches."
"With Ohio State, I have a nice relationship with their coaching staff as well," he continued. "I'm also from Ohio originally, so I just might want to take my talents back home. Michigan State would be the school that I have the closest relationships with. I talk to Coach (Mark) Dantonio pretty often on the phone, and we are tight."
Roberston is going to make his announcement this summer along with fellow four-star Austin Mack. While both would love to attend the same school, Robertson says that is not etched in stone.
"Hopefully, we do pick the same school, but that's not a guarantee at all," Robertson said. "He has to go to the school where he fits in the best, and that's what I have to do as well. If any new offers would come in, I would still look at them. I'm committing early so I can get it over with before my senior season."

 

[Luckylucci]

Like I've mentioned in other threads I don't expect all of these DE's to go to OSU even though they believe they will. Wiltfong feels a lot better about both King and Robertson today than he did yesterday and its a MSU/ND battle here.

 

[rtrn2glory]

so you're saying is urban seems to be out of this one?

 

[Luckylucci]

so you're saying is urban seems to be out of this one?

Largely by choice. They have other guys that they are putting their attention towards. Would they take his commitment, of course. Are they going to pursue him like ND or MSU will, no.

 

[NDPhilly]

OSU is the presumed leader for Ohio top 100 DE Prince Sammons as well at this point

 

[Johannes]

OSU is the presumed leader for Ohio top 100 DE Prince Sammons as well at this point

The Hurry Up: Terrell Hall's Impact, Defensive End Situation Changing, Tressel Speaks Truth and More. | Eleven Warriors

Hall is – as you no doubt know – the second defensive end to issue a verbal pledge to the Buckeyes, joining Gahanna freak of nature standout Jonathon Cooper. I've contended for a while that the Buckeyes could end up with four defensive ends in 2016 and then one or maybe two combo lineman, guys like Kyree Campbell or Malik Barrow who are more likely to end up inside but list as defensive ends right now, at least according to rankings, analysts, etc.

While I still think the Buckeyes would like to take four true defensive ends, things do become a bit cloudier than they were prior to Hall's commitment. First off, it's increasingly more difficult to convince more of the nation's elite to commit to the Buckeyes because each team they're competing against can now accurately use "they're filling up at your position" against you. "You'll get stuck on the depth chart," they'll say - and many will agree. Second, as numbers get tighter, the Ohio State coaching staff will have to reshuffle their personal decks and sort out the "must haves" from the "would likes" on the recruiting board.

Nick Bosa, as mentioned in today's Mailbag, is a "must have." Fortunately for the Buckeyes, Bosa is also a "likely will get" and make no mistake, other players around the country are aware that is the case, which only further serves Ohio State's competitors in the "they're filling up at your position" angle they're likely to use. In February of 2014, James Franklin and Penn State expertly used Torrance Gibson against the Buckeyes in their pursuit of Brandon Wimbush and there's no doubt schools will employ a similar tactic is it pertains to Nick Bosa. One particular player who could end up looking elsewhere as the defensive end coffers fill? Fort Wayne's Auston Robertson, who was all but a done deal for the Buckeyes just weeks ago.

Josh King will visit Columbus again on March 30th, and the Buckeyes are aggressively pursuing a number of other options, but there's a chance that a defensive end haul of Cooper, Hall, Bosa and Prince Sammons – who I think eventually ends up on the offensive line – is the most likely reality. Then, if you're able to land Kyree Campbell at defensive tackle, you do, while all the while leaving a spot open for standouts like Rashan Gary and Antwuan Jackson, guys too good to pass up, ever.

Sammons may end up at OT regardless (see comments).

 

[ThePiombino]

Like I've mentioned in other threads I don't expect all of these DE's to go to OSU even though they believe they will. Wiltfong feels a lot better about both King and Robertson today than he did yesterday and its a MSU/ND battle here.

VERY positive news. I know MSU is no slouch, but I feel a lot better about ND's chances against them than against OSU right now. It's important that we put a wall up around the state. ND should be able to hand pick its IN athletes.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

So, it's all better now?

 

[irishandy]

We can't let backyard talent get away.

 

[Johannes]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Top247 DE Auston Robertson update <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanScherer247">@SeanScherer247</a> <a href="http://t.co/lKc42ncQQC">http://t.co/lKc42ncQQC</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a></p>— Clint Brewster (@clintbrew247) <a href="https://twitter.com/clintbrew247/status/574951087628750848">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clint Brewster spoke with Robertson and several of his AWP Sports coaches this weekend. There was a consensus that MSU has a substantial lead over other schools and that Robertson feels the most comfortable there.

Michigan State winning a recruiting battle for a top in-state guy at a position of need? Gross. Just gross. The staff needs to turn this one around at junior day.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Top247 DE Auston Robertson update <a href="https://twitter.com/SeanScherer247">@SeanScherer247</a> <a href="http://t.co/lKc42ncQQC">http://t.co/lKc42ncQQC</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/247Sports">@247Sports</a></p>— Clint Brewster (@clintbrew247) <a href="https://twitter.com/clintbrew247/status/574951087628750848">March 9, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Clint Brewster spoke with Robertson and several of his AWP Sports coaches this weekend. There was a consensus that MSU has a substantial lead over other schools and that Robertson feels the most comfortable there.

Michigan State winning a recruiting battle for a top in-state guy at a position of need? Gross. Just gross. The staff needs to turn this one around at junior day.

Just a month ago he was an OSU Lock on this site. Breath.

 

[ab2cmiller]

This tweet says he's at 240, another article I read had a quote from Michael Ledo at AWP that said he was up to 250

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Four-star Fort Wayne (IN) DE Auston Robertson looks the part. 6-5, 240 <a href="http://t.co/OopB3MuKKJ">pic.twitter.com/OopB3MuKKJ</a></p>— Clint Brewster (@clintbrew247) <a href="https://twitter.com/clintbrew247/status/574635967069487104">March 8, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[ab2cmiller]

Michigan State slanted article, but has some good info about his development and some comments from Ledo on his thoughts of the Michigan State staff.
Trieu: Developing Robertson now a big-time prospect for MSU

One of the Midwest's top prospects, Fort Wayne (Ind.) Wayne junior defensive end Auston Robertson, recently named Michigan State in his top three along with Notre Dame and Ohio State. Popular opinion is now that the Spartans are the team to beat out of that group.

That he has been offered by those programs and is ranked by recruiting services as high as he is are indications of his physical talent and the strides he has made in a short period of time. As a sophomore, he did not play any defense. But his 6-foot-5, 250-pound frame and athleticism stood out last summer on the camp circuit, and then into the fall, where he lined up as a defensive end for the first time in his career.

Much of the progress he made can be attributed to his work with AWP Sports, which trains and mentors many of the top athletes in the area.

"Last year, Auston came to us and was pretty much just a physical specimen," founder and CEO Mike Ledo says, "and very raw as an individual. He thought he was a tight end and we asked him to put his hand on the ground and Kevin Bush, our linebacker and defensive line coach, and Bob Morton, who works with our offensive line and played at Notre Dame, worked with him and polished him up. But even when he played at Wayne last year, he was very raw because he got to us so late."

Now holding offers from top programs around the country, Robertson continues to go to camps and events where others with his profile would not. Ledo says he has committed to developing both physically and mentally, and that is why they have seen him continue to grow.

"He's definitely improving as a person and he still has a lot of room to grow physically," Ledo said. "He is about 250 pounds now. He's learning how to have balance and control his body. He plays middle linebacker for our 7-on-7 team and in the last tournament, I thought he was the best player there. Andre Rison and one Max Ex coach and other people were coming up to me saying, 'Oh my goodness,' because of how big he is and his ability to drop and change direction.

"It's his goal to be the No. 1 defensive player in the nation," Ledo added.

Defense is king at Michigan State, but so are many of the other philosophies Ledo wants to instill in his athletes. And while Robertson is not expected to announce a decision until June 7 at AWP's RAS Camp, if it is the Spartans, Ledo will be just fine with the decision.

"The thing about it is, Mark Dantonio is a great individual," he said. "The football success speaks for itself, but he's a phenomenal individual and they've produced amazing defensive linemen. They have an old school, no-nonsense strength coach (Ken Mannie) and one of the top academic support programs in country. Auston is fine in the classroom, but it doesn't come easy, so academic support is huge.

"Their coaches are a good group of people who have been together for a long time and it's somewhat close to home. I don't make decisions for kids, but I smile any time a kid tells me they want to go to Michigan State, because it's a place I would send my own son."

 

[Luckylucci]

FWIW, as of Monday Wiltfong said MSU has a huge lead. OSU is no longer under consideration.

 

[NDdomer2]

FWIW, as of Monday Wiltfong said MSU has a huge lead. OSU is no longer under consideration.

I guess if you want to play in the BIG, and the best team wont have you, go to the second best?

 

[BobbyMac]

I wonder if he's close with Caleb Swanigan, the All American basketball player from FW Homestead? He's supposedly locked in with Izzo at MSU. Homestead and Wayne are adjoining districts on the south side and can't be more than 7-8 miles apart.

Bishop Luers, where Austin Mack attends is a couple of miles from Wayne HS. These guys might all live in the same neighborhood.

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[OCIrish]

No, they cannot live in the same neighborhood, Homestead and Wayne are completely different school districts. Wayne is part of FWCS, while Homestead is in Southwest Allen. That doesn't mean that they don't hang out or don't know who one another is.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

They are well aware of each other.

 

[connor_in]

They are well aware of each other.

Not...like...in the biblical sense, tho...right?

I mean...not that there's anything wrong with that