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Bruce Jenner involved in Malibu car accident; 1 dead - CNN.com

By Steve Almasy, CNN
Updated 10:08 PM ET, Sat February 7, 2015



CNN)Former Olympic decathlon champion and reality TV star Bruce Jenner was involved in a fatal four-car accident in Southern California on Saturday, the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department said in a statement.

Jenner was the driver of one vehicle in the midday wreck in Malibu, Deputy Ray Hicks told CNN.

One of the drivers involved in the wreck was killed at the scene, on Pacific Coast Highway near Corral Canyon Road, the news release stated.

The sheriff's department later opened a vehicular manslaughter investigation, a source close to the case told CNN legal analyst Mark Geragos. The investigation will focus on everyone in the case, not just one person, the source said.

The sheriff's department said on its Facebook page that the surviving drivers were cooperating with investigators.

A deputy said Jenner voluntarily took a field sobriety test, was questioned and went home.

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The only Kardashian I like even a bit is Kourtney. Her Maxim spread a few years ago was sooo good. And to think she may be even hotter now, or close to it, after two kids is kinda depressing.
 

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I think the Kardashians are the worst as well, but what's up with this comment?

Afraid your kids will catch the "gay virus" if they see homosexuals on TV?

It's 2015, bro...

A few years ago being key. A lot's changed in what they do and don't do on TV in the past 10 years, and I can say I have no issues what so ever with any form of lifestyle. I grew up watching Leave it to beaver, Gomer pyle, Bonanza, the love boat, you could even throw in the golden girls when my grandma was around. So a shock to what my kids are seeing is an understatement to say it mildly.
 

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A few years ago being key. A lot's changed in what they do and don't do on TV in the past 10 years, and I can say I have no issues what so ever with any form of lifestyle. I grew up watching Leave it to beaver, Gomer pyle, Bonanza, the love boat, you could even throw in the golden girls when my grandma was around. So a shock to what my kids are seeing is an understatement to say it mildly.

So you don't have issues with gay people. You just don't want to see them on tv because your kids might turn gay if they see them?

Or that's just what you thought a few years ago?
 

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A few years ago being key. A lot's changed in what they do and don't do on TV in the past 10 years, and I can say I have no issues what so ever with any form of lifestyle. I grew up watching Leave it to beaver, Gomer pyle, Bonanza, the love boat, you could even throw in the golden girls when my grandma was around. So a shock to what my kids are seeing is an understatement to say it mildly.

And I for one, advocate not allowing kids to see terrible sickening lifestyles.

There's nothing wrong with not letting your kids watch a man turn into a woman.

Anyone who thinks this is normal need to check themselves.

The acceptance for anything gay or lesbian, even though they make up the smallest percentage of population deviance, is through the roof.

Anything related to it, if you disagree tags you a homophobe, a discriminator, or a bigot.

Well I for one do not support gays, lesbians, or people that want to change their sex. I will not condone it with my children. I will not sway letting others have their opinion and display it freely and talk about it freely, while shutting up about my belief in not supporting it and thinking it's morally and ethically incorrect.

Anatomically it makes zero sense. So the problem is in the mind, not the body here folks.

Sorry if you have brothers, sisters, moms, uncles, friends, or yourselves that partake in this lifestyle. I know they are most certainly good people that give. Love, etc. However I do not support or believe in it.

Not in 2015. Not in 3015. Never. I do not hate them. Nor would I persecute them. I accept the person, not the lifestyle.
 

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Being gay or transexual isn't contagious. You won't catch it by watching them on TV. It's not a choice.
 

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Being gay or transexual isn't contagious. You won't catch it by watching them on TV. It's not a choice.

Actually, there's much more evidence supporting that watching and seeing things early in life tend to cultivate and desensitize folks to accepting if not becoming what they see: killers, con artists, lifetime users of welfare, abuse, rapists, etc.

Seeds are sown.

I will debate nurture vs nature with you all day here amigo.

And many psychologists and sociologists have scholarly documentation providing direct arguments for me to share if you'd like.

Tell me, that reading and watching certain things hasn't sparked some sort of deviance in your life...? Guaranteed.
 

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And I for one, advocate not allowing kids to see terrible sickening lifestyles.

There's nothing wrong with not letting your kids watch a man turn into a woman.

Anyone who thinks this is normal need to check themselves.

The acceptance for anything gay or lesbian, even though they make up the smallest percentage of population deviance, is through the roof.

Anything related to it, if you disagree tags you a homophobe, a discriminator, or a bigot.

Well I for one do not support gays, lesbians, or people that want to change their sex. I will not condone it with my children. I will not sway letting others have their opinion and display it freely and talk about it freely, while shutting up about my belief in not supporting it and thinking it's morally and ethically incorrect.

Anatomically it makes zero sense. So the problem is in the mind, not the body here folks.

Sorry if you have brothers, sisters, moms, uncles, friends, or yourselves that partake in this lifestyle. I know they are most certainly good people that give. Love, etc. However I do not support or believe in it.

Not in 2015. Not in 3015. Never. I do not hate them. Nor would I persecute them. I accept the person, not the lifestyle.

So you don't hate them, and you're sick of being tagged a "bigot" because of your opinions.

But you don't think they should be able to exist, don't want them being able to live freely and don't think the world should have to be exposed to them.

Got it...
 

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Actually, there's much more evidence supporting that watching and seeing things early in life tend to cultivate and desensitize folks to accepting if not becoming what they see: killers, con artists, lifetime users of welfare, abuse, rapists, etc.

Seeds are sown.

I will debate nurture vs nature with you all day here amigo.

And many psychologists and sociologists have scholarly documentation providing direct arguments for me to share if you'd like.

Tell me, that reading and watching certain things hasn't sparked some sort of deviance in your life...? Guaranteed.

They certainly shouldn't be able to use the same bathrooms or drink from your water fountains.

Back of the bus, gays!!!
 

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So you don't hate them, and you're sick of being tagged a "bigot" because of your opinions.

But you don't think they should be able to exist, don't want them being able to live freely and don't think the world should have to be exposed to them.

Got it...

Lol.

Oh wooly. I accept the person, not their lifestyle. And I will not allow my kids to watch it.

Don't try to put a pro gay/pro lesbian/pro sex change spin on my words.

I was very clear.

Your paraphrasing is a joke.

Furthermore, my post doesn't fit the TLDR category to necessitate your lack of reading because you don't like what I wrote.

It didn't require your ignorant paraphrase.
 

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So you don't hate them, and you're sick of being tagged a "bigot" because of your opinions.

But you don't think they should be able to exist, don't want them being able to live freely and don't think the world should have to be exposed to them.

Got it...
It's his opinion to have those feeling and we shouldn't judge him for them. Hate goes in circles.
 

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Lol.

Oh wooly. I accept the person, not their lifestyle. And I will not allow my kids to watch it.

Don't try to put a pro gay/pro lesbian/pro sex change spin on my words.

I was very clear.

Your paraphrasing is a joke.

You know I love ya, homie... But I didn't spin your words.

Let's be honest... You don't "love the person" if they're gay. Saying that you do in the same breath of comments like "they shouldn't exist" and "I won't let my kids watch them" is disengenious. It's something people say to rationalize their unsavory opinion about something.
 

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You know I love ya, homie... But I didn't spin your words.

Let's be honest... You don't "love the person" if they're gay. Saying that you do in the same breath of comments like "they shouldn't exist" and "I won't let my kids watch them" is disengenious. It's something people say to rationalize their unsavory opinion about something.

I do actually. I have a very dear and near family member that is living this lifestyle. I'd give the heart from my chest if they needed it.

I do have an unsavory opinion regarding the lifestyle. But I love and accept the person. I also am very nice and accepting to the partner.

It is very hard for me, but it's their decision. It's mine once we get into my household with what I censor and the reasons why concerning my children. Just like I wouldn't allow them to watch porn, etc.
 

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It's his opinion to have those feeling and we shouldn't judge him for them. Hate goes in circles.

So someone could say they don't like black people or Jews and they shouldn't be judged for it either? Or is it just gays?

It's comical to me when people say that someone shouldn't be judged on their opinions. Everyone is judged on their opinions.

That being said, Cando is my guy. I just vehemetely disagree with him on this topic. Homosexuals deserve to be treated like human beings, not sinners infringing on your liberties.
 

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So someone could say they don't like black people or Jews and they shouldn't be judged for it either? Or is it just gays?

It's comical to me when people say that someone shouldn't be judged on their opinions. Everyone is judged on their opinions.

That being said, Cando is my guy. I just vehemetely disagree with him on this topic. Homosexuals deserve to be treated like human beings, not sinners infringing on your liberties.

"Sinners" is everybody on earth. Everyone sins.

Every sin but one is equal in the Lord's eyes. Why would I encourage one sin more than another?

And comparing me to a bigot for not accepting a lifestyle is not fair man. Not fair at all.
 

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I have no problem with his opinion of not wanting that in his life. I just think it's his right to feel that way. Just like it's my right to embrace the gay and lesbians in my life.
 

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I've suffered through bits of that show over the years due to Mrs. Steelhead's crippling addiction to the trashiest crap on TV. Here's my scoreboard based on that:

Mom Kardashian- truly the most awful of the bunch. A money hungry whore drunk on the power pimping her children provides

Kim Kardashian- Quite possibly the dumbest and most self-important human being on the planet. The fact that she is reproducing (With dip-$hit Kanye, no less) scares me

Pig-face Kardashian- married a crackhead, and then cried to anyone who would pay her when she realized her husband was a crackhead

Not quite as awful as the rest Kardashian- lets the entire viewing audience in on the secret she is in a toxic relationship with a spoiled drunk a-sshole that she keeps squirting puppies out with

AND OF COURSE......

Bruce- America's proudest son decades ago turned neutered corpse. He chose to surround himself with society's absolute worst constituents, and this is what happened. I probably would want my pecker chopped off too if the women in my life were these disgusting b-itches


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I have no problem with his opinion of not wanting that in his life. I just think it's his right to feel that way. Just like it's my right to embrace the gay and lesbians in my life.

Answer my question... Do you still feel that way if someone substitutes homosexuals for African Americans or Jews? Should they not be judged for their comments?
 

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Making a racist comment about a ethnicity and chosing not to interact with them is different in my opinion. So no it would not make a difference.
 

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Apples and oranges.

Race is not lifestyle.

Substitute any other lifestyle, and it'll click.

You are putting your own spin to this.

Try womanizer, gambler, wife beater, wife fucker, lifetime welfare consumer, gold digger, etc.

That's how I relate it.

That's where it falls in my hierarchy and belief system.
 
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What if we insert casual drug user? Or anything of that matter. Why do we all have to interact with each other?
 

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Apples and oranges.

Race is not lifestyle.

Substitute any other lifestyle, and it'll click.

You are putting your own spin to this.

Try womanizer, gambler, wife beater, wife fucker, lifetime welfare consumer, etc.

That's how a relate it.

Being Jewish absolutely is a lifestyle, it's a religion.

How would you guys feel if someone told you "Jews are unholy and I don't want my kids being subjected to their behavior?"

Just an opinion? They shouldn't be "judged" by it?

I'm not spinning anything, I'm being very literal if anything.
 

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Being Jewish absolutely is a lifestyle, it's a religion.

How would you guys feel if someone told you "Jews are unholy and I don't want my kids being subjected to their behavior?"

Just an opinion? They shouldn't be "judged" by it?

I'm not spinning anything, I'm being very literal if anything.

You have a predisposed hierarchy difference than I.

You are comparing this to murder and genocide when I compare this to shoplifting and speeding.

I don't understand why it falls into this category for you. Truth be, I think you have been desensitized to the lifestyle, drank the Kool aid, and now you advocate it strongly.

Wooly, if you were gay, do you not think I would drink a beer after a Notre Dame football game with you? I damn sure would.

I would just ask you to leave my house if you and your partner tried to make out on my couch while my kids watched if we were watching it on NBC...
 

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I hate typing. Would be a good face to face conversation. I would hate to hear anyone say that but I would respect there opinion. If the person was close enough to me personally I would talk with them. Let them know how they were making a mistake judging someone.
 

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I hate typing. Would be a good face to face conversation. I would hate to hear anyone say that but I would respect there opinion. If the person was close enough to me personally I would talk with them. Let them know how they were making a mistake judging someone and possibly missing out on some great relationships in life.
 

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What if we insert casual drug user? Or anything of that matter. Why do we all have to interact with each other?

I respect others views even though I don't agree. Casual drug users lead to crime, addiction, death, etc.. Transexual lifestyle leads to make up, buying more clothes, etc.. I am just wondering what is so negative about exposure to certain lifestyles? Like, why do people feel living an alternative lifestyle is wrong? Because a book written out of context way back when says too?

I guess my question is, what is so negative about being a transvestite?
 

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Nothing wrong with a transvestite. Just like there is nothing wrong with a grown man saying he doesn't want his children exposed to that lifestyle.
 

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You have a predisposed hierarchy difference than I.

You are comparing this to murder and genocide when I compare this to shoplifting and speeding.

I don't understand why it falls into this category for you. Truth be, I think you have been desensitized to the lifestyle, drank the Kool aid, and now you advocate it strongly.

Wooly, if you were gay, do you not think I would drink a beer after a Notre Dame football game with you? I damn sure would.

I would just ask you to leave my house if you and your partner tried to make out on my couch while my kids watched if we were watching it on NBC...

How is different than if a heterosexual started making out in front of your kids? I am finding it difficult in what you are against, the action of making out, or the action of two gay men making out in front of your kids. I find both to be equally as offensive and warrant removal due to poor behavior, not because of who they are. I surely would be offended if any person started making out in front of my kids.
 
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