'15 TX S Prentice McKinney (Oklahoma Signee)

[IRISHDODGER]

My understanding is he has gotten more kids in than any other coach since Lou. Lou might have been able to get in 1 or 2 more kids though.


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This is my understanding as well. Even borderline kids like Lynch were never forced to sit a year, so I'm not convinced that ND has been less or even equally stringent since Holtz.

 

[RDU Irish]

If this kid is top 10 in his class (10% or 10, either way good enough) I am guessing he slacked on the first attempt at the ACT. As a top tier football recruit with a high class ranking, why would he sweat it? Well in comes a crap score and he is now behind the eight ball. Being a bright kid, he says no fear I will just re-take this thing and prep a bit.

Bigger question, is this an indication of work ethic or is it just a matter of prioritizing your work load? Or did he just think he was smart enough to cruise through it and got served a big piece of humble pie. I am going to guess humble pie and hope we don't end up with a surprise ineligibility down the road because he underestimates his understanding of a course heading into finals.

 

[Crazy Balki]

If this kid is top 10 in his class (10% or 10, either way good enough) I am guessing he slacked on the first attempt at the ACT. As a top tier football recruit with a high class ranking, why would he sweat it? Well in comes a crap score and he is now behind the eight ball. Being a bright kid, he says no fear I will just re-take this thing and prep a bit.

Bigger question, is this an indication of work ethic or is it just a matter of prioritizing your work load? Or did he just think he was smart enough to cruise through it and got served a big piece of humble pie. I am going to guess humble pie and hope we don't end up with a surprise ineligibility down the road because he underestimates his understanding of a course heading into finals.

I think it's the opposite. The ACT/SAT are a complete joke and a poor judge of intelligence, but it's an even poorer judge of prioritizing and work-load management, since you don't really know what to study for. I don't know about you, but I'd like to know exactly what I need to study for when getting ready for a test.

 

[IrishLax]

There is a poster on 247 that said Mckinney talked to Cooks and said he is good to go. Also says that he is top 10 in his class. Loy thinks it is a test score.

OK so Tunnel Vision came out today and it confirmed what I'd been hearing, which isn't positive:

There’s been a lot of questions about where things stand academically with Dallas (Texas) South Oak Cliff safety Prentice McKinney, who remains committed to Notre Dame.

Our stance over the last two months has been that he is not expected in this class.

Unfortunately right now, we continue to hear the same things.

No question where McKinney wants to be on Signing Day, and he continues to work to try and make that happen.

So it seems like the sunshine was/is misleading.

 

[RDU Irish]

Easy to prep for the ACT/SAT. Just dial up Kaplan and Princeton Review software and go to town. You should have a good idea going in what range of scores you can realistically expect and very little should be information to which you have never been exposed.

His hurdle is much lower than non-4* football recruits. (thank you Captain Obvious) Qualifying is not rocket science and any kid who is top 10% in his class should be able to quickly prep for an ACT score of 20 or better.

 

[RDU Irish]

OK so Tunnel Vision came out today and it confirmed what I'd been hearing, which isn't positive:


So it seems like the sunshine was/is misleading.

Is this kid really top 10 in his class? What is the ACT hurdle in that situation, 16 or 17 maybe? Why the dire prediction if that is the only hurdle, isn't this then a very binary process? Or are we dealing with the damned language requirement or some other class deficiency? Why wouldn't that be possible to be handled spring semester or something?

 

[IrishLax]

Is this kid really top 10 in his class? What is the ACT hurdle in that situation, 16 or 17 maybe? Why the dire prediction if that is the only hurdle, isn't this then a very binary process? Or are we dealing with the damned language requirement or some other class deficiency? Why wouldn't that be possible to be handled spring semester or something?

Without getting too much into specifics, I have no idea what reputable source this "top 10% thing" came from. Additionally, it's my understanding that it is not a language requirement or anything like that, but a case of his test score being lower than it needs to be given his total academic profile.

 

[Big23Head]

Without getting too much into specifics, I have no idea what reputable source this "top 10% thing" came from. Additionally, it's my understanding that it is not a language requirement or anything like that, but a case of his test score being lower than it needs to be given his total academic profile.

It is a direct quote from McKinney when Steve Hare asked him about admissions.

 

[IrishLax]

It is a direct quote from McKinney when Steve Hare asked him about admissions.

What precisely was the quote? Can you link it in it's entirety?

And if it's from McKinney's mouth then it's probably inaccurate a la McKenzie, Tee, etc. etc. etc. You ask a kid directly about their academic and you're unlikely to get a truthful/accurate response.

 

[Big23Head]

What precisely was the quote? Can you link it in it's entirety?

And if it's from McKinney's mouth then it's probably inaccurate a la McKenzie, Tee, etc. etc. etc. You ask a kid directly about their academic and you're unlikely to get a truthful/accurate response.

It is from the premium board so edit this as necessary:

"I don't see how academics can be a rumor if I'm ranked top 10% in my class and ranked #10."

As said above, tj chimed in right after saying it is a test score and to trust the staff and McKinney until its all over.

 

[IrishLax]

It is from the premium board so edit this as necessary:

"I don't see how academics can be a rumor if I'm ranked top 10% in my class and ranked #10."

As said above, tj chimed in right after saying it is a test score and to trust the staff and McKinney until its all over.

No need to edit, you can always copy and paste a quote directly. Quotes cannot be protected media, they are always fair use.

 

[Irish#1]

It is from the premium board so edit this as necessary:

"I don't see how academics can be a rumor if I'm ranked top 10% in my class and ranked #10."

As said above, tj chimed in right after saying it is a test score and to trust the staff and McKinney until its all over.

I see a glimmer of hope.

 

[IrishLax]

ISD confirms no change and not expected to be part of the class.

 

[IrishLion]

Heyyyoooo, conflicting insider reports.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Prayer Thread.

Go.

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

I think he gets in. If he was a 100 % for sure not going to be apart of this class why wouldn't the coaches have cut him loose already? If it comes down to a ACT/SAT score doesn't he have 2-3 more chances to take it before he comes on campus in June?

 

[IrishLion]

Prayer Thread.

Go.

Is Matthias Farley's doppelganger appropriate?

 

[IrishLax]

I think he gets in. If he was a 100 % for sure not going to be apart of this class why wouldn't the coaches have cut him loose already? If it comes down to a ACT/SAT score doesn't he have 2-3 more chances to take it before he comes on campus in June?

Yeah, he does.

Schools around the country often sign guys that they think might not qualify (much less meet arbitrary higher standards set by the school)... and then they end up not enrolling in the fall and heading to JUCO or wherever.

It'd be interesting to see if they let McKinney sign but lay out a "road map" (hate the term, but you see it used often for this kind of situation) of what he needs to get done to be able to enroll in the fall. That might include raising test score to X or improving overall academic profile by Y during his senior year.

Conflicting reports suggest that:
1) He's not currently going to be admitted given current status quo, or these sites wouldn't be reporting what they are.
2) If it was a 100% done deal that he wouldn't be part of the class, it seems doubtful that Cooks would fly down there to meet with him, so there must at least be some glimmer of hope or some angle to play that is left.

 

[NDdomer2]

I think he gets in. If he was a 100 % for sure not going to be apart of this class why wouldn't the coaches have cut him loose already? If it comes down to a ACT/SAT score doesn't he have 2-3 more chances to take it before he comes on campus in June?

Just like Isiah McKenzie, we don't cut them loose because it has no upside to ND. The kid has been committed from the get go and if he doesn't come here it wont be for anything other than test scores. Why tell a kid to get lost because of that? If he wants to decommit he can do so on his own terms and ND lets everyone save face.

 

[Luckylucci]

Per TV, they continue to not expect Prentice in this class.

 

[IrishLax]

Per TV, they continue to not expect Prentice in this class.

Haha someone didn't read before posting today...

 

[Luckylucci]

Haha, I was trying to get these in quickly this morning. Should have checked.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I think he gets in. If he was a 100 % for sure not going to be apart of this class why wouldn't the coaches have cut him loose already? If it comes down to a ACT/SAT score doesn't he have 2-3 more chances to take it before he comes on campus in June?

See Nile Sykes. Not sure ND wants to turn another kid away after they enroll in June in back to back years if he didn't qualify.

 

[Rocket89]

Currently visiting North Carolina.

 

[GoldenDomer]

I despise UNC.

 

[OCIrish]

I despise UNC.

He's got to go somewhere next year, and I'd rather him not end up playing for fucking Mora.

 

[GoldenDomer]

He's got to go somewhere next year, and I'd rather him not end up playing for fucking Mora.

True, but Fedora is just as douchey. I guess let him go to Chapel Hill and go .500 in the ACC

 

[OCIrish]

Not that I'd relish the idea of having to play him in upcoming schedules, however, Mora can go pound sand!!

 

[arahop]

This is the time of year that I curse our administration. It never fails. F em.

 

[IrishLax]

I'd rather him end up literally anywhere but UCLA.