'15 LA S Justin Reid (Stanford Commit)

[Irish#1]

I just don't see how you can go from looking at Stanford and Notre Dame as legitimate options for football and academics, and then stoop down to LSU and Oklahoma. I know that his brother went there, but jeez, he can do so much better and he knows it.

When a kid says academics are important, it usually means they aren't.

 

[NDinL.A.]

I just don't see how you can go from looking at Stanford and Notre Dame as legitimate options for football and academics, and then stoop down to LSU and Oklahoma. I know that his brother went there, but jeez, he can do so much better and he knows it.

It happens ALL the time. Hell, our starting slot receiver was committed to Stanford and everyone thought ND would flip him, and then he flipped to USC. How many times do you need to see a ND hat on the table only for a kid to choose Bama or OK or whatever football factory for you to believe that kids do that?

 

[stlnd01]

When a kid says academics are important, it usually means they aren't.

To be fair to Reid, most of those kids aren't talking with Brown and Yale and winning national awards for "academic excellence."

 

[Irish#1]

To be fair to Reid, most of those kids aren't talking with Brown and Yale and winning national awards for "academic excellence."

I agree, but how many times have we seen kids say academics are important or are very high and they pick a school where football is more important. for example, if a kid says academics are important and he picks Vandy, Northwestern, Cal or Stanford over ND, I get it. If he picks North Carolina, Oklahoma or most any SEC school, then it tells me academics aren't that important.

 

[irishff1014]

I agree, but how many times have we seen kids say academics are important or are very high and they pick a school where football is more important. for example, if a kid says academics are important and he picks Vandy, Northwestern, Cal or Stanford over ND, I get it. If he picks North Carolina, Oklahoma or most any SEC school, then it tells me academics aren't that important.

Just because he chooses those schools doesn't mean that he doesn't care about academics. I am pretty sure that OU, Bama, LSU and others have very respectable classes to offer. I understand that MOST of these recruits don't go after them. But Reid could to one of these schools still have a great degree and play football.

And if you believe for one minute that there aren't athletes taking the bare min. that they can at ND you are foolish.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Wiltfong CBed him to Stanford. Are they really going to beat us out for 3 safeties in 1 year?

 

[GoldenDomer]

What...the...fuck....

 

[IrishLax]

Wiltfong CBed him to Stanford. Are they really going to beat us out for 3 safeties in 1 year?

Innnnnnnnteresting.

 

[Luckylucci]

FWIW, they mentioned the other day that Edwards is still a realistic option at S for us.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Innnnnnnnteresting.

You think it has anything to do with Buncom?

 

[Crazy Balki]

When a kid says academics are important, it usually means they aren't.

I can say that isn't the case with this kid since he has a 4.7 GPA and scored a 28 on the ACT.

 

[dad4aa]

I can say that isn't the case with this kid since he has a 4.7 GPA and scored a 28 on the ACT.

Actually got a 30. Post 46

 

[Crazy Balki]

Actually got a 30. Post 46

Yeah I noticed, I was going off his Rivals page.

 

[IrishLax]

You think it has anything to do with Buncom?

Well, the other shoe seems to have just dropped.

Arrington Farrar... who was their second best rated prospect to Trent Irwin... just decommitted. He was listed as an ATH by most services and I think was set to play safety for them.

 

[rtrn2glory]

pretty solid job by stanford recruiting the seconrdary down the stretch

 

[irishff1014]

FWIW, they mentioned the other day that Edwards is still a realistic option at S for us.

The last article i saw said he still hadn't been cleared. Is this the same you have seen?

 

[dwshade]

The last article i saw said he still hadn't been cleared. Is this the same you have seen?

Correct. Edwards still hasn't received clearance from Stanford admissions.

 

[Luckylucci]

The last article i saw said he still hadn't been cleared. Is this the same you have seen?

That is true but I was referring to a thread at Irish247 where the question was asked what our S recruiting looks like and Wiltfong posted that Edwards is still in play at the top of the board. He didn't specify why but I assume it's admissions related.

 

[irishff1014]

That is true but I was referring to a thread at Irish247 where the question was asked what our S recruiting looks like and Wiltfong posted that Edwards is still in play at the top of the board. He didn't specify why but I assume it's admissions related.

ok thanks.

 

[Irish#1]

Just because he chooses those schools doesn't mean that he doesn't care about academics. I am pretty sure that OU, Bama, LSU and others have very respectable classes to offer. I understand that MOST of these recruits don't go after them. But Reid could to one of these schools still have a great degree and play football.

And if you believe for one minute that there aren't athletes taking the bare min. that they can at ND you are foolish.

Not as foolish as you if you think I don't already know that. I have four kids with degrees from Purdue, IU and Marian University. Are those degrees worth anything? Of course they are and the education they received is very good. I also know that they are kids taking the minimum to get by at ND, but even those minimums are tougher than most schools.

 

[irishff1014]

Not as foolish as you if you think I don't already know that. I have four kids with degrees from Purdue, IU and Marian University. Are those degrees worth anything? Of course they are and the education they received is very good. I also know that they are kids taking the minimum to get by at ND, but even those minimums are tougher than most schools.

I am not disagreeing with you that the min. standards at ND are a lot better them most schools. But just like you said there are other students that do go to these "Other" schools and get a very meaningful education.

 

[stlnd01]

Well, the other shoe seems to have just dropped.

Arrington Farrar... who was their second best rated prospect to Trent Irwin... just decommitted. He was listed as an ATH by most services and I think was set to play safety for them.

Should we go after him then? Not exactly an elite offer list. But committed to Stanford very early. Composite four-star as an athlete.
Arrington Farrar

Any idea why he dropped Stanford?

 

[Domina Nostra]

Well, the other shoe seems to have just dropped.

Arrington Farrar... who was their second best rated prospect to Trent Irwin... just decommitted. He was listed as an ATH by most services and I think was set to play safety for them.

This is making my head spin! I would love a breakdown of where we stand at Safety recruiting. Who is on the board still, realistic or not-- I guess Buncom, Jennings, Williamson, Reid, Dale, Meadors? Is Ben Edwards? Is McKinney more relaisitc than he was a week ago? If so, or if a real possibility, that obviously explains a lot in terms of Stanford's success against us.

 

[drake29]

Should we go after him then? Not exactly an elite offer list. But committed to Stanford very early. Composite four-star as an athlete.
Arrington Farrar

Any idea why he dropped Stanford?

Maybe an admissions casualty?

 

[IrishLax]

Maybe an admissions casualty?

That's the way I read it, that he was denied admission.

Here's something to think about too... most kids in Stanford's class have heard back on being admitted. Edwards hasn't. The last person I remember getting 'thumbs up' last year was Terrence Alexander on 1/22, so there is still time, but it's a bit odd that Edwards ... a committed prospect ... hasn't heard yet. Definitely something to watch over the next two weeks.

 

[drake29]

That's the way I read it, that he was denied admission.

Here's something to think about too... most kids in Stanford's class have heard back on being admitted. Edwards hasn't. The last person I remember getting 'thumbs up' last year was Terrence Alexander on 1/22, so there is still time, but it's a bit odd that Edwards ... a committed prospect ... hasn't heard yet. Definitely something to watch over the next two weeks.

I think landing Edwards would definitely help take the sting out of losing McKinney although for quite a while I had hoped to see them both at ND.

 

[IrishLax]

I think landing Edwards would definitely help take the sting out of losing McKinney although for quite a while I had hoped to see them both at ND.

Yeah, the way to look at safety is that you need no less than 6 healthy bodies coming into fall camp. I think you can cross Baratti and Tranquill off that list, but it's possible Tranquill could recover fast I guess. And you can't really count Nicco, IMO. He's more destined for Farley's role this year in terms of ceiling.

So you have Shumate and Redfield + Williams incoming. You need 3 more... Farley is a pretty obvious move and might even compete for a starting job at either spot. If you move Butler (would make CB thin) and get one more safety in this class (either McKinney or Edwards) then you're fine. If you can get two more DBs, then you don't necessarily have to move or cross-train Butler which would be very nice.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Yeah, the way to look at safety is that you need no less than 6 healthy bodies coming into fall camp. I think you can cross Baratti and Tranquill off that list, but it's possible Tranquill could recover fast I guess. And you can't really count Nicco, IMO. He's more destined for Farley's role this year in terms of ceiling.

So you have Shumate and Redfield + Williams incoming. You need 3 more... Farley is a pretty obvious move and might even compete for a starting job at either spot. If you move Butler (would make CB thin) and get one more safety in this class (either McKinney or Edwards) then you're fine. If you can get two more DBs, then you don't necessarily have to move or cross-train Butler which would be very nice.

What about Bilal?

 

[IrishLax]

What about Bilal?

I don't buy the "Bilal to safety" shit at all. But that's just me, no info. I think it's more probable you'd move Turner back there for depth than Bilal.

 

[pkt77242]

Yeah, the way to look at safety is that you need no less than 6 healthy bodies coming into fall camp. I think you can cross Baratti and Tranquill off that list, but it's possible Tranquill could recover fast I guess. And you can't really count Nicco, IMO. He's more destined for Farley's role this year in terms of ceiling.

So you have Shumate and Redfield + Williams incoming. You need 3 more... Farley is a pretty obvious move and might even compete for a starting job at either spot. If you move Butler (would make CB thin) and get one more safety in this class (either McKinney or Edwards) then you're fine. If you can get two more DBs, then you don't necessarily have to move or cross-train Butler which would be very nice.

Personally I say move Butler to FS. He does not look fluid in man to man coverage (though I think he looked pretty good in zone when we played it). I think he has a much higher ceiling at FS then he does at CB based off of the defense that we currently play.