NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

[ickythump1225]

This is not about joining a conference. Our issue here is that the teams on our schedule who typically are quality, all $hit the bed this year. We all rejoice that Michigan is a dumpster fire, happy that NC is a cluster, but both of those situations have killed our body of work. That combined with Stanford underperforming (debatable), Purdue/Syracuse/Rice being who they are, and letting FSU come back on us..... have impacted our ranking. No need to join a conference...

This is why it is so frustrating to see "who have they beat" comments about ND. F that. We started out the season with the toughest schedule in the land, several people wrote us off because of our gauntlet like schedule. We had the balls to schedule a real schedule with about 5-7 teams that had a decent to really good shot of beating us (or so it appeared). It's not our fault a bunch of teams fell off. Now we're being written off because our schedule is too easy. It's stuff like this that makes me not want to care about CFB anymore. I'd way rather have the BCS. No matter what CFB does it will always only have a mythical national champion because this whole committee and system is a joke.

 

[T Town Tommy]

This is my wish!!
But does that mean 5 automatic berths for conf champions, plus 3 SEC teams?

The SEC will be given the spot for the dismal Big 10 conference, meaning they will actually have five teams in the eight team format.

 

[ickythump1225]

It's coming... if the Big 12 get a champ game then we will be on shakier ground. Power rest in the conferences and they will squeeze out any competition from ND or any group of 5 school

I don't want to join the ACC though because it's too bad of a conference to be saddled with. Look at FSU, they beat us but if they lose a game, even as the defending national champion they are screwed because the conference is so garbage. Honestly if we had to join a conference I would join either the Big 12 or the SEC. No italics on the SEC either.

 

[Goldedommer44]

Ok so this is what I wanted to post from my Camara roll but couldn't. I think looking at the SOS and seeing who people beat and lost too helps to put something's into perspective. Ok so I can't get it to post. Bleacher Report had an article named " blind College Football Playoff Resumes for the Top 10" I think everyone should look of up and see how they rank them.

 

[Irish YJ]

The SEC will be given the spot for the dismal Big 10 conference, meaning they will actually have five teams in the eight team format.

LOL. I'd actually be OK with leaving the Big10 out these days. Reps.

Edit... my alma mater however did beat the defending SEC East champ LOL.

 

[Irishman77]

What this committee doesn't know about us:
1. Golson has lost twice since his first communion
2. We are capable of beating anyone if we take care of the football.
3. We are exponentially getting better each week and will be a bitch in the playoff

Kelly is the best at eliminating hype and noise, but a bye and this disrespect will be phenomenal for this teams growth.

Some feel the Kelly hiring was the turning point, some feel the 2011 class was the turning point, some feel the 2012 12-0 season was the turning point....I feel this moment is on the same level. We went against number one in there back yard and handed it to them with mostly underclassmen. How this team produces points on offense the rest of this year will be the moment!

Irish 63
Navy 13

 

[Irish YJ]

This is why it is so frustrating to see "who have they beat" comments about ND. F that. We started out the season with the toughest schedule in the land, several people wrote us off because of our gauntlet like schedule. We had the balls to schedule a real schedule with about 5-7 teams that had a decent to really good shot of beating us (or so it appeared). It's not our fault a bunch of teams fell off. Now we're being written off because our schedule is too easy. It's stuff like this that makes me not want to care about CFB anymore. I'd way rather have the BCS. No matter what CFB does it will always only have a mythical national champion because this whole committee and system is a joke.

Agree on most of this.. doesn't matter though IMO as there is nothing we can do except play the system better. gauntlet to start the year, cakewalk at midyear. just the way the cookie crumbles for us right now. call it bad luck, unfair, yep... all of that.. maybe God is an SEC fan?

 

[Cali_domer]

I don't want to join the ACC though because it's too bad of a conference to be saddled with. Look at FSU, they beat us but if they lose a game, even as the defending national champion they are screwed because the conference is so garbage. Honestly if we had to join a conference I would join either the Big 12 or the SEC. No italics on the SEC either.

ACC is our home for all it's warts. If we join it has to them because of GoR that is in place till 2025

 

[Goldedommer44]

Ok so this is what I wanted to post from my Camara roll but couldn't. I think looking at the SOS and seeing who people beat and lost too helps to put something's into perspective. Ok so I can't get it to post. Bleacher Report had an article named " blind College Football Playoff Resumes for the Top 10" I think everyone should look of up and see how they rank them.

 

[IrishinSyria]

Agree on most of this.. doesn't matter though IMO as there is nothing we can do except play the system better. gauntlet to start the year, cakewalk at midyear. just the way the cookie crumbles for us right now. call it bad luck, unfair, yep... all of that.. maybe God is an SEC fan?

eh, if you're focus is on gaming the system, the best schedule has about 9 or 10 cupcakes (Purdue level) and 2-3 teams of note. Of course, ex ante it did look like we had a murderer's row this season.

 

[Irish YJ]

But telling other people to not bitch about it and that it is pointless to speculate comes off as rather holier than thou (which is more of the point I was trying to get across), we speculate on everything at IE and we have control over exactly zero of it (who will start this year, who will be the next commit, what 5th years will be kept, if Kelly is going to leave, what was going to happen to the 5 suspended players, etc,). As I have pointed out I am not very upset about it because I have bigger shit to worry about right now but I completely get that people need to bitch about it (just like we did the PI call in the FSU game) and that in some ways it is good to get it out. You (and TP, and Lax) can hold your opinion that it isn't worth getting upset about (and I hold that same opinion) but I think that telling other people that they shouldn't be upset by it and shouldn't bitch about it is acting a little high and mighty.

I'm not telling you not to bitch, or speculate. I do think there is a difference between speculating and complaining. and I think there is a difference between complaining and venting. have at, speculate (I like the what if, who's really better, who will start next year, etc.), bitch, and or complain. it is a board where people do all of the above all day long. but some people's opinion, and what they share, even if it is "that things are pointless" or futile are fair game.

 

[Irish YJ]

Ok so this is what I wanted to post from my Camara roll but couldn't. I think looking at the SOS and seeing who people beat and lost too helps to put something's into perspective. Ok so I can't get it to post. Bleacher Report had an article named " blind College Football Playoff Resumes for the Top 10" I think everyone should look of up and see how they rank them.

you can post the link!

 

[IrishLax]

But telling other people to not bitch about it and that it is pointless to speculate comes off as rather holier than thou (which is more of the point I was trying to get across), we speculate on everything at IE and we have control over exactly zero of it (who will start this year, who will be the next commit, what 5th years will be kept, if Kelly is going to leave, what was going to happen to the 5 suspended players, etc,). As I have pointed out I am not very upset about it because I have bigger shit to worry about right now but I completely get that people need to bitch about it (just like we did the PI call in the FSU game) and that in some ways it is good to get it out. You (and TP, and Lax) can hold your opinion that it isn't worth getting upset about (and I hold that same opinion) but I think that telling other people that they shouldn't be upset by it and shouldn't bitch about it is acting a little high and mighty.

So sharing the opinion that this is a travesty and we should all be raging over it is fine, but sharing the opinion that I don't see a reason to get worked up over where we're slotted until we're past ASU is "high and mighty" and "holier than thou."

Got it.

 

[Irish YJ]

eh, if you're focus is on gaming the system, the best schedule has about 9 or 10 cupcakes (Purdue level) and 2-3 teams of note. Of course, ex ante it did look like we had a murderer's row this season.

I'm not interested in gaming the system, but my point is that's all you can do if you don't want to have bad-luck SOS years like this... part of gaming the system is joining a conference, not just scheduling more cupcakes.

I'm honestly happy with our schedule, and believe it's just bad luck this year. it happens. I'm not asking for any major changes.

 

[Wizzle32]

you can post the link!

here is the link to the artical he was talking about.

Blind College Football Playoff Resumes for the Top 10 Contenders | Bleacher Report

 

[pkt77242]

So sharing the opinion that this is a travesty and we should all be raging over it is fine, but sharing the opinion that I don't see a reason to get worked up over where we're slotted until we're past ASU is "high and mighty" and "holier than thou."

Got it.

I never responded to your post because I didn't really have a problem with it, but nice try (and you were only mentioned in the other post because you were brought up and I lumped me in the same group as you). Though I could have typed it up better. My point was that it was ok to say I am not worried till we get past ASU (as you did) and the generic no point in bitching/stop complaining that TP did. There is a reason I only responded to TP.

 

[bkess8]

No need to get pissed everyone we need to use this as motivation and take it to the other teams left on the schedule! We will be fine and everything will work out! GO IRISH!

 

[pkt77242]

I'm not telling you not to bitch, or speculate. I do think there is a difference between speculating and complaining. and I think there is a difference between complaining and venting. have at, speculate (I like the what if, who's really better, who will start next year, etc.), bitch, and or complain. it is a board where people do all of the above all day long. but some people's opinion, and what they share, even if it is "that things are pointless" or futile are fair game.

I never said you were, my only response originally was to TP until you responded. In general I don't mind if people respond to other posters and question them, or even call them out if they are going off the deep ledge but TP wasn't responding to anyone in particular just making a blanket statement that there was nothing to be bitching/complaining about when there seems to be plenty to bitch/complain about from some peoples opinion. As I have stated previously I am not very upset (in fact my first post in this thread was in response to TP) about this, but I think it is too low (especially when Michigan St is higher) and I had ND around #6.

 

[Goldedommer44]

here is the link to the artical he was talking about.

Blind College Football Playoff Resumes for the Top 10 Contenders | Bleacher Report

Thank you, sorry I suck

 

[IrishFaninTX]

I just don't get MSU being ranked as high as they are. They only beat Nebraska who hasn't beaten anyone. The lost big to Oregon. The analysts went on and on about ND not beating anyone and losing to FSU. Nobody said a word about MSU not having any quality wins. I don't count Nebraska as a quality win since they haven't beaten anyone either.

 

[irishtrain]

I bet we're 5. Come season end 'Bama will kick the snot out of Auburn knocking them off...will eventually jump them.

This whole thing is just silly. Sad- but silly that college football has turned into a political comedy routine. I watched it tonight for comic relief. One thing I do feel is that if the Irish run the table they will end up about 5/6 and out of the playoff. They want Notre Dame's @%$ in a conference and this is one way to do it. No matter what college football tries to do to seem on the up and up it still comes back to 'Blazing Saddles' and-'Boys we have to protect our phony baloney business'. What a crock of %$#@ with 3 teams from one division of a conference in the 4 slots no matter what the schedule will bring to eliminate them. No way the sec west should have 3 teams in this deal at this point. This whole things a joke and I would be saying the same thing if Notre Dame was one of the 4 picks. In a word absurd.

 

[The Polish Irishman]

Win and the rest will work itself out. A lot of football still to be played.

 

[D-BOE34]

14 of the 16 teams with 1 loss will play each other...


Let that sink in

 

[gkIrish]

On MSU: Nebraska's ONLY loss right now is to MSU. Considering MSU beat a power-five team with only one loss and we can't say we have beat a power-five team with less than 3 losses, I don't see why there is such an uproar about them being ranked ahead of us.

On OSU: We need to root for them to beat MSU in a sloppy game.

On Louisville: I want them to beat FSU considering the emphasis the committee seems to have placed on beating quality teams. Louisville would probably jump to the top 15-20 if they won out before we played them.

On Stanford: Stanford/Oregon may be the most important game on the national schedule.

On Ole Miss: This is the one team I was shocked to see so high. That's where the SEC bias showed, if at all.

On Alabama: They actually have a very similar resume to us but have beat teams much more impressively. Going to need them to lose to Auburn.

 

[alohagoirish]

I think its a mistake to complain much about a subjective honest opinion that puts this team or that ahead of us....

There is however plenty to be suspicious about in this process. The problem is that in a committee of only 12, a couple of voters could suppress our ranking by voting us especially low. Essentially using their vote for in punitive way....

This is common in the regular polls but with a larger pool of votes the affect was marginal. In a 12 person pool for example say 7 have us at #6 , 2 have us at #8 and 3 have us at #15 -----that type of active negative voting is IMO more likely the reason we are so many spots lower then in other polls.

This means we cannot get in because of low votes from 3 members irrespective of other events. Expect a faction to begin voting us behind two loss team to keep our rank low.
Even if 9 members see ND at 11-1 as playoff material---3 members can and will block us with low votes.

Imagine an 11-1 ND team ranked 3 in the coaches and writers but because of a couple of members who rank us 9 or 10 behind several two loss teams our aggregate falls to 5 and we are out.

The flaw in this system is its vulnerability to unethical negative voting that overrides the majority view.

 

[D-BOE34]

SEC eats each other up. Oregon loses to ASU and we beat them. Both ASU and USC win out besides ND.

All things we need to happen.

Again a 11-1 ND team will be 1 of a few. Watch.

 

[stlnd01]

Win and the rest will work itself out. A lot of football still to be played.

Yup.

I suppose it's possible that FSU, Oregon, MSU, the Big 12 Champ, two SEC teams and us all have none or one loss, and we get squeezed out. If that happens, so be it. But it would require more teams to hold serve in more tough (and on-paper-not-so-tough) games than has probably ever happened in the history of college football. Even four of those teams making it through with one loss or less is unlikely.
For us, winning out is the hardest part. Do that and the odds are we'll be fine.

That said, a Stanford win on Saturday would be huge for us.

 

[stlnd01]

The above said, it's kind of bullshit that KSU and Michigan State, in particular, are ranked ahead of us. I'd pick Stanford to beat either of their best wins (Oklahoma, Nebraska) right now, and what else have they accomplished but lose worse than we did to lower-ranked teams?

 

[DomeX2 eNVy]

Only one team has 8 wins with no losses - and they didn't even make the top 25. So much for wins being the most important factor: I bet the Marshall boards are in full meltdown too. Wait, does Marshall even have a team board?

 

[aubeirish]

This whole thing is a head scratcher. Clearly, we don't have many friends in there. What the fuck is Ole Miss doing in that top 4 anyways. They will loose again anyways.