Oct 18 | Florida State

yankeeND · Oct 14, 2014

ickythump1225 said:
I knew that was fake when it said FSU was actually suspending him. Especially for 1 1/2 games.

I knew it was fake when the first 4 words in the link are The Fake News World. See the signs.

ickythump1225 · Oct 14, 2014

yankeeND said:
I knew it was fake when the first 4 words in the link are The Fake News World. See the signs.

I thought obvious saracasm was obvious...perhaps I should have used italics.

yankeeND · Oct 14, 2014

ickythump1225 said:
I thought obvious saracasm was obvious...perhaps I should have used italics.

Exactly, I was kidding man, you're good.

ickythump1225 · Oct 14, 2014

yankeeND said:
Exactly, I was kidding man, you're good.

We skrong den.

irish#underground · Oct 14, 2014

What are you guys drinking Saturday? Me Hennessy&Coke, Budlight

Cali_domer · Oct 14, 2014

irish#underground said:
What are you guys drinking Saturday? Me Hennessy&Coke, Budlight

Diet Pepsi and Water... Letting it all go!

ACamp1900 · Oct 14, 2014

irish#underground said:
What are you guys drinking Saturday? Me Hennessy&Coke, Budlight

idk, good question... If i do drink (I'm sure I prob will) I may see about some Cadi Margaritas... and cook some Carne Asada before the game starts....

the wheels are turning now...

CanadianIrishFan306 · Oct 14, 2014

Cali_domer said:
Diet Pepsi and Water... Letting it all go!

nd_fan · Oct 14, 2014

Before the betting was halted, we were 10.5 point underdogs. Man I sure hope this is like the 2012 OU game. Go in there house, beat them and prove that ND is a contender.

FightingIrishLover7 · Oct 15, 2014

I see the similarities to Oklahoma 2012.

But, I fear this won't be a repeat.

stlnd01 · Oct 15, 2014

FightingIrishLover7 said:
I see the similarities to Oklahoma 2012.

But, I fear this won't be a repeat.

I don't really feel like our defense is as stout as it was in 2012. Also, assuming Winston plays, they've got a better offense than OU did. But our offense is better than two years ago, if it can hold on to the ball. Expecting a good game.
As for the drinking, I may start off with an Evan Williams on the rocks, just to set the right base. Then sucking down Coors Banquets until the fight is through.

rocket66 · Oct 15, 2014

Oct 18 | Florida State

stlnd01 said:
I don't really feel like our defense is as stout as it was in 2012. Also, assuming Winston plays, they've got a better offense than OU did. But our offense is better than two years ago, if it can hold on to the ball. Expecting a good game.
As for the drinking, I may start off with an Evan Williams on the rocks, just to set the right base. Then sucking down Coors Banquets until the fight is through.

I think overall the unit might be better than 2012, but the 2012 unit did have more "difference makers". If that makes sense.

I like this year's secondary more, and the athleticism at OLB is much improved. The DL is going to have to make the difference in this game. Hoping to see them dominate an average FSU OL.

dublinirish · Oct 15, 2014

For the folks on here who like to study the film:
2014 Florida State vs. Oklahoma State | Noonkick
2014 Citadel at Florida State | Noonkick
2014 #22 Clemson at #1 Florida State | Noonkick
2014 #1 Florida State at NC State | Noonkick
2014 Wake Forest at #1 Florida State | Noonkick
2014 #1 Florida State at Syracuse | Noonkick

Irish#1 · Oct 15, 2014

rocket66 said:
I think overall the unit might be better than 2012, but the 2012 unit did have more "difference makers". If that makes sense.

I like this year's secondary more, and the athleticism at OLB is much improved. The DL is going to have to make the difference in this game. Hoping to see them dominate an average FSU OL.

This years secondary is better. In 2012 the front 7 was just plain nasty at times and it kept the secondary from being exposed to much.

Fock Michigan! Fock Florida State!

IRISHDODGER · Oct 15, 2014

FightingIrishLover7 said:
I see the similarities to Oklahoma 2012.

But, I fear this won't be a repeat.

I see more similarities to Alabama BCS Championship game. Not when comparing the teams, but predicting the outcome. I think ND gets throttled and it'll be over by halftime. Yes, FSU has yet to play impressively. I believe they show out this Saturday b/c (other then Clemson) they've yet to "get up" for a game & they've undewhelmed. I think those underwhelming performances have given Irish fans false hope. Could be wrong...hope I am. This is not to bash my beloved Irish. I just look at the following:

ND's defense is VERY young/inexperienced & thin at depth

Golson has proven that the turnovers have become a trend...not just an anomaly

ND's first game against a true passing attack was last Saturday vs UNC & it was ugly b/c of the QB's ability to throw & run. The offenses of the first five teams they beat were one-dimensional, anemic or inept.

I think this Irish squad is one year away. I, for one; didn't predict they'd be 6-0 going into this game...so in my mind, they're playing w/ house money. Unfortunately, ESPN & the like are going to over hype this game (as they should to increase viewership) and then go to the old mantra of "Notre Dame is overrated, lacks the elite speed, blah, blah, blah.

Sorry, I know this flies in the face of what all of you are feeling or thinking but that's my 2 cents.

IrishSteelhead · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
I see more similarities to Alabama BCS Championship game. Not when comparing the teams, but predicting the outcome. I think ND gets throttled and it'll be over by halftime. Yes, FSU has yet to play impressively. I believe they show out this Saturday b/c (other then Clemson) they've undewhelmed. I think those underwhelming performances have given Irish fans false hope. Could be wrong...hope I am. This is not to bash my beloved Irish. I just look at the following:

ND's defense is VERY young/inexperienced & thin at depth

Golson has proven that the turnovers have become a trend...not just an anomaly

ND's first game against a true passing attack was last Saturday vs UNC & it was ugly b/c of the QB's ability to throw & run. The offenses of the first five teams they beat were one-dimensional, anemic or inept.

I think this Irish squad is one year away. I, for one; didn't predict they'd be 6-0 going into this game...so in my mind, they're playing w/ house money. Unfortunately, ESPN & the like are going to over hype this game (as they should to increase viewership) and then go to the old mantra of "Notre Dame is overrated, lacks the elite speed, blah, blah, blah.

Sorry, I know this flies in the face of what all of you are feeling or thinking but that's my 2 cents.

I see what you are saying, and agree this has all the ingredients of the type of game you mentioned. This isn't you being a party pooper or rude, this is reality. Lucky for us, games aren't played on paper, but my gut agrees with you, and it hurts just thinking about it. I'm already shuddering at what may happen to my remote/TV every time the camera pans to JW giving that dumba-ss smirk.

IRISHDODGER · Oct 15, 2014

IrishSteelhead said:
I see what you are saying, and agree this has all the ingredients of the type of game you mentioned. This isn't you being a party pooper or rude, this is reality. Lucky for us, games aren't played on paper, but my gut agrees with you, and it hurts just thinking about it. I'm already shuddering at what may happen to my remote/TV every time the camera pans to JW giving that dumba-ss smirk.

Exactly. Usually, I play the Holtzian role (Coach Holtz...not Dr. Lou) of talking up all ND opponents b/c I realize that ND is usually the biggest game on their opponents' schedule. But this is different. Again, no crime in losing b/c this is a young ND team that I think can be special next year.

greyhammer90 · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
Exactly. Usually, I play the Holtzian role (Coach Holtz...not Dr. Lou) of talking up all ND opponents b/c I realize that ND is usually the biggest game on their opponents' schedule. But this is different. Again, no crime in losing b/c this is a young ND team that I think can be special next year.

I don't know if I agree with you on us getting throttled because I think we're athletic enough to play competitive ball. But I will agree that we're a year away from playing legitimate championship-caliber football. I'm on record that Id really rather stick it to a middling SEC East team in a major bowl than go the playoffs this particular year.

IRISHDODGER · Oct 15, 2014

greyhammer90 said:
I don't know if I agree with you on us getting throttled because I think we're athletic enough to play competitive ball. But I will agree that we're a year away from playing legitimate championship-caliber football. I'm on record that Id really rather stick it to a middling SEC East team in a major bowl than go the playoffs this particular year.

I'm on the same page w/ you regarding your last statement. Images & impressions carry a lot of weight...for better or worse.

rocket66 · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
I see more similarities to Alabama BCS Championship game. Not when comparing the teams, but predicting the outcome. I think ND gets throttled and it'll be over by halftime. Yes, FSU has yet to play impressively. I believe they show out this Saturday b/c (other then Clemson) they've yet to "get up" for a game & they've undewhelmed. I think those underwhelming performances have given Irish fans false hope. Could be wrong...hope I am. This is not to bash my beloved Irish. I just look at the following:

ND's defense is VERY young/inexperienced & thin at depth

Golson has proven that the turnovers have become a trend...not just an anomaly

ND's first game against a true passing attack was last Saturday vs UNC & it was ugly b/c of the QB's ability to throw & run. The offenses of the first five teams they beat were one-dimensional, anemic or inept.

I think this Irish squad is one year away. I, for one; didn't predict they'd be 6-0 going into this game...so in my mind, they're playing w/ house money. Unfortunately, ESPN & the like are going to over hype this game (as they should to increase viewership) and then go to the old mantra of "Notre Dame is overrated, lacks the elite speed, blah, blah, blah.

Sorry, I know this flies in the face of what all of you are feeling or thinking but that's my 2 cents.

So you're basically assuming FSU realizes their full potential and plays great in this game, but ND will completely fold and regress. Not sure I understand that logic at all.

This staff will have ND playing a great game. Is it enough to beat FSU's best? Not sure, but there are very few similarities to the '12 Bama game. That was literally a healthy semi-pro team ND faced that year. This is a completely different situation.

IRISHDODGER · Oct 15, 2014

rocket66 said:
So you're basically assuming FSU realizes their full potential and plays great in this game, but ND will completely fold and regress. Not sure I understand that logic at all.

This staff will have ND playing a great game. Is it enough to beat FSU's best? Not sure, but there are very few similarities to the '12 Bama game. That was literally a healthy semi-pro team ND faced that year. This is a completely different situation.

No, I believe that FSU has the more talented & more experienced roster right now. ND has been decimated on defense by injuries & suspensions. It's a very young squad that has yet to face an elite offense. We just have different opinions.

As far as the Bama game comparison, please recall that I was not comparing the two rosters (you're right, that was a semi-pro team). I was comparing the outcome and the blowback that ND got for being a fraud. I think we'll hear the same thing for the following week after the FSU game. The thing is even most ND fans didn't predict a 6-0 record going into this game. This team should be special next season if everything plays out (no more suspensions or career ending injuries). In my mind, we're playing w/ house money. In the media's (& the uninformed haters') mind, it's another overhyped ND team that lacks "SEC speed" to truly compete. NOTE: I'm not saying that...but that will be the narrative next week...bank on it.

Hammer Of The Gods · Oct 15, 2014

I do think we under estimating the physical and mental adaption we are/were expecting our players to make.

Stanford was a game we weren't suppose to win, according to the talking heads, they play smash mouth and extremely physical and it took every bit of 4 quarters to win.

Two "live" practices later we're suppose to just be able to keep up physically and mentally with a team that is lightning quick,with tempo and there athletes? that's extremely challenging especially with FSU looming in the back ground

this week things come back to "normal" in a sense. pro style, quarterback CAN run but not what he does. BVG defense opens back up.

Obvious keys to the game...

Golson..Duh

Back end communication on defense

tackling

If we can't do those things, forget about it. IRISHDODGER is dead on.

rocket66 · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
No, I believe that FSU has the more talented & more experienced roster right now. ND has been decimated on defense by injuries & suspensions. It's a very young squad that has yet to face an elite offense. We just have different opinions.

As far as the Bama game comparison, please recall that I was not comparing the two rosters (you're right, that was a semi-pro team). I was comparing the outcome and the blowback that ND got for being a fraud. I think we'll hear the same thing for the following week after the FSU game. The thing is even most ND fans didn't predict a 6-0 record going into this game. This team should be special next season if everything plays out (no more suspensions or career ending injuries). In my mind, we're playing w/ house money. In the media's (& the uninformed haters') mind, it's another overhyped ND team that lacks "SEC speed" to truly compete. NOTE: I'm not saying that...but that will be the narrative next week...bank on it.

I get the point, and agree the narrative will be ugly if ND gets blown out, but I still think you're giving FSU way too much credit. They're also dealing with multiple injuries, some on the OL. This isn't the 2013 FSU team, although I agree it's hard to block that out and just focus on this season's body of work. There's no reason ND can't go toe to toe with this FSU team. ND is also improving each week and if EG can hang onto the ball it should be an amazing game.

irishtrain · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
No, I believe that FSU has the more talented & more experienced roster right now. ND has been decimated on defense by injuries & suspensions. It's a very young squad that has yet to face an elite offense. We just have different opinions.

As far as the Bama game comparison, please recall that I was not comparing the two rosters (you're right, that was a semi-pro team). I was comparing the outcome and the blowback that ND got for being a fraud. I think we'll hear the same thing for the following week after the FSU game. The thing is even most ND fans didn't predict a 6-0 record going into this game. This team should be special next season if everything plays out (no more suspensions or career ending injuries). In my mind, we're playing w/ house money. In the media's (& the uninformed haters') mind, it's another overhyped ND team that lacks "SEC speed" to truly compete. NOTE: I'm not saying that...but that will be the narrative next week...bank on it.

Agree with both you guys and glad to see the 'semipro' word used. Its my favorite way to describe these teams today. My only wish for this game is that Jamis Winston plays-if the guys can pull this off I want it at fsu full strength. I think Notre Dame is going to play a great game -will it be enough maybe not but they will play well down there.

ickythump1225 · Oct 15, 2014

IRISHDODGER said:
I see more similarities to Alabama BCS Championship game. Not when comparing the teams, but predicting the outcome. I think ND gets throttled and it'll be over by halftime. Yes, FSU has yet to play impressively. I believe they show out this Saturday b/c (other then Clemson) they've yet to "get up" for a game & they've undewhelmed. I think those underwhelming performances have given Irish fans false hope. Could be wrong...hope I am. This is not to bash my beloved Irish. I just look at the following:

ND's defense is VERY young/inexperienced & thin at depth

Golson has proven that the turnovers have become a trend...not just an anomaly

ND's first game against a true passing attack was last Saturday vs UNC & it was ugly b/c of the QB's ability to throw & run. The offenses of the first five teams they beat were one-dimensional, anemic or inept.

I think this Irish squad is one year away. I, for one; didn't predict they'd be 6-0 going into this game...so in my mind, they're playing w/ house money. Unfortunately, ESPN & the like are going to over hype this game (as they should to increase viewership) and then go to the old mantra of "Notre Dame is overrated, lacks the elite speed, blah, blah, blah.

Sorry, I know this flies in the face of what all of you are feeling or thinking but that's my 2 cents.

Well I imagine you won't be watching since you already know the outcome.

greyhammer90 · Oct 15, 2014

ickythump1225 said:
Well I imagine you won't be watching since you already know the outcome.

Oh Jesus get over it. Why don't you say the same thing to every poster that predicts that we win?

ACamp1900 · Oct 15, 2014

I can definitely see ND getting embarrassed again... I mean, it's ND, other than Oklahoma in 12 and USC in 05 the program has lost every single big game it's played over the past 15 or so years by a decided margin

so yeah...

with that said, unlike with bama, or SC during the poodle era, I really believe they have a shot here...

greyhammer90 · Oct 15, 2014

ACamp1900 said:
I can definitely see ND getting embarrassed again... I mean, it's ND, other than Oklahoma in 12 and USC in 05 the program has lost every single big game it's played by a decided margin over the past 15 years or so...

so yeah...

with that said, unlike with bama, or SC during the poodle era, I really believe they have a shot here...

You shut your damn mouth. You predicted that we were going to lose AND. IT. WILL. STAY. THAT. WAY.

kmoose · Oct 15, 2014

rocket66 said:
if EG can hang onto the ball it should be an amazing game.

That's a pretty big if, don't you think?

bkess8 · Oct 15, 2014

kmoose said:
That's a pretty big if, don't you think?

Considering the last couple of games YES IT IS!

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