Four-star recruit opts for soccer

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Four-star recruit opts for soccer

Interesting story here.

Perhaps a precedent being set here where in the future where the most talented kids armed with the knowledge of CTE/concussions etc will look at other less violent sports to earn scholarships/pro careers.
 

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Four-star recruit opts for soccer

Interesting story here.

Perhaps a precedent being set here where in the future where the most talented kids armed with the knowledge of CTE/concussions etc will look at other less violent sports to earn scholarships/pro careers.

Concussions are pretty prevalent in soccer. Soccer folks don't want to talk about it so it doesn't hurt the growth they have been wishing for the last 20 years.
 
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It's prevalent but not anywhere close to football. Male soccer players aren't getting dementia at 40.
 

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I don't know ... I have a friend who is a neurologist, and he claims that soccer is actually worse for your brain. You are more likely to have frequent concussions that are relatively minor, and even go unnoticed, in soccer, and the cumulative effect of those can be very serious, and it happens to more players.

For example, another friend who played college soccer had to quit in the middle of his senior year. During that year, he started getting dizzy and disoriented after heading the ball, and he would later be unable to remember anything that happened during the game.

The danger to your head presented by soccer is really underrated.
 

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It's an interesting debate. From what I have read, the constant beating that linemen/linebackers take over the many, many years of small hits to the head, hits that may not cause concussion symptoms, looks to be a major cause in the issues that arise later in life.

I have seen a few states that require their youth soccer players to now wear the concussion bands. I have also heard of some youth soccer organizations talking about banning heading the ball until a certain age.

It's that younger, undeveloped noggin taking too many hits that is most worrisome. I think Pee Wee football needs to take a hard look at kids hitting too often, at too early of an age.
 

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It's prevalent but not anywhere close to football. Male soccer players aren't getting dementia at 40.

But it is causing some soccer players to get the munchies ... for human flesh ... so you know, that kind of sucks.

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It's prevalent but not anywhere close to football. Male soccer players aren't getting dementia at 40.

Not saying it doesn't happen in football or even at the same rate, but from what I've read it's a lot higher than the soccer community likes to admit.
 

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Not saying it doesn't happen in football or even at the same rate, but from what I've read it's a lot higher than the soccer community likes to admit.

Yeah i would agree.Considering your head wasn't designed to head soccer balls at speeds up 20-30 mph. Plus the amount of Head butts from missing headers.
 

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Yeah I love soccer, but I have 5, yes 5 close friends who have had 4 or more concussions playing soccer, and were all seniors in high school
 

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For me, I only count as concussions the 2 times when I lost consciousness and woke up in the ambulance both times. Both times I was back on the ice(hockey) 2-3 days later. The number of times I fell on my head or that my head got smack in the bay window is kind of outrageous when I think about it now. It's not so long ago, but things have change and that's a good thing.

Lately, I have seen concussion clinics prescribe a leave of absence from school and sports from 2 weeks to a few months for minor to intermediate concussions. To me, that's just ridiculous. I am all in for protecting the kids, making them aware of head injuries and promote prevention, but a small knock on the head never killed anybody. We've all been through it, and sometimes it's the price to pay to play physical sports.

All I am trying say I guess is we got to protect the kids, but not make them complete pussies either.
 

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Was gonna put one of those videos up about a cat hitting the wall.. but thought again
 

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Yeah I can't believe these pussies don't want their kids to have CTE when they're 30.

I personally don't know anyone with that, but if you say so. Besides, I think your misunderstanding the point I was trying to make. I am not saying that protecting the head is not important, au contraire. I was saying that I have witnessed cases where these so called "cortex" clinics prescribe stoppage of all kind of activities for a long period of time which includes school. Not playing sports for a period of time is one thing, but not going to school for a month seems excessive. I'm talking about the mild concussions, not the life threatening cases.
Maybe, it's just me.
 

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Drake Davis, a highly touted 2016 wide receiver recruit, recently made headlines by opting to play soccer this fall instead of football. It’s a move that has been hailed by some U.S. soccer supporters as a watershed moment for the sport in its decades-long battle of unsuccessfully trying to attract the nation’s best athletes. After all, the 6-2, 212-pound Davis, who transferred to Fork Union (Va.) Military Academy for this season, reportedly has football scholarship offers from Alabama and Florida State among others.

His decision has also been cited as evidence that younger athletes are having second thoughts about playing football because of the sport’s risks. One writer even mentioned Davis in the same breath as Jozy Altidore, a U.S. born soccer player who plays for Sunderland in the English Premier League. Those type of comparisons are baffling to Willie Davis, who coached Davis in soccer for two weeks last season at The Dunham School in Baton Rouge, La. before dismissing him after he skipped a tournament.

“Some of the story is absolutely blown up,” Willie Davis told The Inside Read. “His technical ability was probably as good as my 15th player.” (Multiple efforts to reach Drake Davis were unsuccessful.)

Dunham is a 723-student private Christian school for grades K-12 that's not known as an athletic powerhouse. In the lone soccer game Drake Davis played at Dunham he did score a goal. But Willie Davis emphasized that high school soccer in southern Louisiana is far from the pinnacle of the sport.

“I would be absolutely astounded for Drake Davis to step out of a sport that he’s excelling at and go into what is not a hand-eye coordinated sport,” Willie Davis said. “Obviously, he’s got the athleticism, but not the skill set, the tactical understanding or the years of training to be the next big anything. It could happen, but the chances aren’t very high.”

Willie Davis isn’t some geometry teacher who also moonlights as a soccer coach. He holds a national license from the U.S. Soccer Federation, was an assistant at Franklin Pierce University when the school won a Division II national title in 2007 and is director of coaching for senior players for a Baton Rouge soccer club.

Willie Davis said Drake Davis decided to play soccer after quitting Dunham’s basketball team. He also had “issues” with the football team according to Willie Davis.

Drake Davis’ dismissal from the soccer team also came after he was dishonest about missed practices, according to Willie Davis.

“He’s an interesting kid,” Willie Davis said. “He’s a good kid, but there’s something I just couldn’t put my finger on with him.”

Drake Davis, the son of former LSU and Kansas basketball standout Lester Earl, visited The Dunham School last month and talked with first-year football coach Neil Weiner. Davis is concentrating on his academics at Fork Union and is interested in returning to Louisiana to play football next year according to Weiner.

Weiner said Davis is better at football than soccer and seemed somewhat “unsure” about the football coaches at Fork Union, a football factory. A majority of his friends at his new school are also soccer players according to Weiner.

“Soccer is not a game you just pick up when you’re 16 years old and decide, ‘Hey, I’m going to be one of the best in the world,’” Weiner said. “Drake Davis is a phenomenal athlete, but it takes more than just being able to run fast and jump high to be a great soccer player.”

A college football assistant at a school where Davis allegedly has a scholarship offer according to recruiting services said the program hasn’t extended one. Another assistant whose program is recruiting Davis described his decision to play soccer as “World Cup fever.”

“He’s a very talented football player,” the assistant said. “Not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but a Division I player.”

Both assistants foresee that Davis’ future is on the football field, not in soccer. Just like Willie Davis does.

Said Willie Davis, “It just seemed like it was a big, gimmick hype thing to me.”

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Sounds like football coaches are butthurt that more kids are choosing a better sport over theirs
 

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Sounds like football coaches are butthurt that more kids are choosing a better sport over theirs

I'm not sure if you actually read the article, but most of that was coming from the mouth of his former soccer coach.
 

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I made a joke to some friends after the USA lost to Belgium that all athletes in basketball and football with the potential to become highly rated recruits should be forced to play soccer instead, that way the best athletes in the country would be available to the USMNT down the road.

I was being facetious, but I never really thought about it either, and the kid's soccer coach raises a valid point. A four star athlete picking soccer over football doesn't mean his skills will translate and make him some world-beater, or even the equivalent to a decent recruit, and it definitely doesn't signify a sudden avalanche of soccer players like the media insisted.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if youth and high school soccer numbers double over the next 5-10 years, simply because of the interest the USMNT generated. Little kids saw more adults than ever getting all jacked up about the national team, and I would bet there were many kids that asked their parents if they could play soccer that otherwise wouldn't have after that showing.
 
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