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Gardner's ability to scramble will make any secondary communication issues 10x worse. This game is going to be close. Im not setting myself up for disappointment and rage.

Obviously we are more adequately equipped on offense to control the tempo but Gardner will extend plays and they will move the ball. Our red zone D will play a major role.

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Would like to hear some of you football guru's opinions on them after re-watching the game.

FWIW, physically, Rice looked better than App. St. on both lines.


To the extent it matters, USA Today ranked App. State around 119 and ranked Rice in the 60s.

Rice went 10-4 last year and returned quite a few players. App. St. went like 4-8 amd just joined division 1. Rice would destroy App St.

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I watched the Michigan game. I turned it off at halftime because it was pointless. Our coaches are going to get nothing out of that film either, whereas Michigan might get a little something out of our film versus Rice (but not too much).

App State was so physically mismatched it was almost comical. Michigan had guys running wide open with no one covering them all day. And if you evaluated Michigan's OL based on that game, you'd say they were world beaters. They were blowing holes wide open in the running game and the pass protection was great.

If KVR is back, you can just stick him on Funchess and call it a day. He's not fast/quick enough to get open against someone like KVR and KVR has the size to play the jump ball. The rest of their WRs seemed very decent but weren't utilized because Michigan barely even threw the ball... very tough to evaluate.

Michigan basically just ran the ball up the middle again and again and again with App State being horrible. I wasn't in love with our run defense, and I'm not sure we're going to be able to pressure Gardner while also keeping contain. That's my primary concern... broken plays and the physicality of our MIKE linebacker. Michigan's backs are downhill runners.

On offense, I was impressed by the Michigan front 7. They look fast and physical. I think they will get lots of pressure against us and make it hard to run the ball. I do not, however, think they have any ELITE players. And I didn't think their secondary was anything special. But both units played vanilla.
 

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I watched the Michigan game. I turned it off at halftime because it was pointless. Our coaches are going to get nothing out of that film either, whereas Michigan might get a little something out of our film versus Rice (but not too much).

App State was so physically mismatched it was almost comical. Michigan had guys running wide open with no one covering them all day. And if you evaluated Michigan's OL based on that game, you'd say they were world beaters. They were blowing holes wide open in the running game and the pass protection was great.

If KVR is back, you can just stick him on Funchess and call it a day. He's not fast/quick enough to get open against someone like KVR and KVR has the size to play the jump ball. The rest of their WRs seemed very decent but weren't utilized because Michigan barely even threw the ball... very tough to evaluate.

Michigan basically just ran the ball up the middle again and again and again with App State being horrible. I wasn't in love with our run defense, and I'm not sure we're going to be able to pressure Gardner while also keeping contain. That's my primary concern... broken plays and the physicality of our MIKE linebacker. Michigan's backs are downhill runners.

On offense, I was impressed by the Michigan front 7. They look fast and physical. I think they will get lots of pressure against us and make it hard to run the ball. I do not, however, think they have any ELITE players. And I didn't think their secondary was anything special. But both units played vanilla.

That's being incredibly optimistic. I hope you're right, but I don't share your enthusiasm here. Let's hope that their O line is as bad as reported and Gardner isn't comfortable at all and makes bad decisions.
 

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That's being incredibly optimistic. I hope you're right, but I don't share your enthusiasm here. Let's hope that their O line is as bad as reported and Gardner isn't comfortable at all and makes bad decisions.

Funchess made a living as a TE beating up on LBs/safeties. Yesterday he made a living running wide open against zone coverage or physically mismatching small CBs.

I don't see how someone like him can get separation on someone like KVR.
 

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Funchess made a living as a TE beating up on LBs/safeties. Yesterday he made a living running wide open against zone coverage or physically mismatching small CBs.

I don't see how someone like him can get separation on someone like KVR.

My gut says a 6'5'' WR/ TE doesn't need a lot of separation against a 5'10'' corner or safety. Just extend the arms.
 

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My cousin keeps calling Funchess Megatron. I laughed when he came out in the #1. I thought that was reserved for the special ones. He is a hell of a blocker though, down field all the time steam rolling the secondary.
 

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Pat eilars is helping coach while McCarthy is dealing with treatments...got permission from ncaa...great to add that as he was a great def player

Jaylon dislocated finger , reset on sideline

Riggs will not play safety regardless of kvr comes back

Shumate and Redfield need the work on communication

BK said Joe S. Was the best def player yesterday

Thought Jaylon made some mental mistakes

More freshman will play on def

We didn't h bring a rush because we wanted to keep him in pocket and throw....great idea and explains a lot

Still no word on the 5

Bk was very pleased with Cole Luke
 
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My cousin keeps calling Funchess Megatron. I laughed when he came out in the #1. I thought that was reserved for the special ones. He is a hell of a blocker though, down field all the time steam rolling the secondary.

He might be able to block a CB but he can't block a DE or LB. That was the main reason UM moved him to receiver if I'm not mistaken. Wasn't a good blocking TE attached to the line. It seems like it was a good move by their staff.

Butt is more of a typical, blocking tight end who can also catch. I think he'll be a good one up there before his time is done... if he stays healthy.
 

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Pat eilars is helping coach while McCarthy is dealing with treatments...got permission from ncaa...great to add that as he was a great def player

Jaylon dislocated finger , reset on sideline

Riggs will not play safety regardless of kvr comes back

Shumate and Redfield need the work on communication

BK said Joe S. Was the best def player yesterday

Thought Jaylon made some mental mistakes

More freshman will play on def

We didn't h bring a rush because we wanted to keep him in pocket and throw....great idea and explains a lot

Still no word on the 5

Bk was very pleased with Cole Luke

I don't get this. Unless it's the Austin Collinsworth argument that our D would be lost without his direction. It was a good game from Joe but I think Rice exploited his weaknesses most times .. IDK maybe I'm drunk lol
 

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We open as 6 point favs---largest spread against meat chicken in bk's tenure
 

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If we get any of Ishaq, Keivare, or Davaris back they probably bump the line a few points.
 

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Funchess made a living as a TE beating up on LBs/safeties. Yesterday he made a living running wide open against zone coverage or physically mismatching small CBs.

I don't see how someone like him can get separation on someone like KVR.

I don't know if that's true. I despise michigan, but Funchess is basically their version of Eifert, and Eifert was catching balls over Bama CBs. I love Russell, but I'm not buying the same lockdown, 1st-round draft pick business yet. Also, as somebody else posted, Funchess is 6'5. What we need to do is make sure we can limit Funchess and their other receivers aren't anything special. If we can limit Funchess and contain Gardner we can win. After watching our D against Rice, I don't know if that'll happen. I know people are acting as if losing Ishaq is addition by subtraction but I was legitimately excited to see him play at DE. His athleticism would have been great against Gardner.
 

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I don't know if that's true. I despise michigan, but Funchess is basically their version of Eifert, and Eifert was catching balls over Bama CBs. I love Russell, but I'm not buying the same lockdown, 1st-round draft pick business yet. Also, as somebody else posted, Funchess is 6'5. What we need to do is make sure we can limit Funchess and their other receivers aren't anything special. If we can limit Funchess and contain Gardner we can win. After watching our D against Rice, I don't know if that'll happen. I know people are acting as if losing Ishaq is addition by subtraction but I was legitimately excited to see him play at DE. His athleticism would have been great against Gardner.


I agree. Keep Gardner in the pocket and make him uncomfortable. If he's under duress hell be much less accurate and will throw INTS. Use a Nickle back or jaylon to shadow him so he doesn't scramble. The good part is scums oline is suspect. With the right defense we've got the tools to make his life hell
 

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SIAP but we are opening as 6 point favorites. It looks like it's already being bet down some
 

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ND will win, crushing them by 20+ points. Golson will pass for 200, throwing TD to Daniels and Robinson. Folston and Bryant will run for 250+, each scoring TD's. The defense under VG will have a breakout game, tea-bagging the Wolverines for 3 TO's and multiple TFL, including 4 sacks. The win will set the Irish up for a great season and an invite to the playoffs.

Prediction, ND 46, UM 13

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It matters. A "Beat Down" of epic proportions is on a direct head on collision with Michigan. It will be ugly. It will be beautiful. It will result in a definitive ND victory.

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Devin Funchess had 1 good game! His first good game at Michigan since I can remember.
They did get a running game going yesterday. First time in a while. I do believe they will run the ball on us. If we don't get some god damn pressure on Gardner he will hit guys open all day. Even when Russell does matchup on Funchess I am not sure if he will get separation.
We need to pin our ears back and get some pressure this Saturday. Also Farley just shouldn't play, he's way to much of a liability. I would also like to see Nlyes Morgan get some reps. Because I believe Michigan will pound the ball and Joe Schmidit won't be able to take that beating all game, every snap. Just some of my early take away's. This Michigan game has got me jacked up!
 

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There are about 100 teams that can gash App State in the run game. The game doesn't tell us much one way or the other about their O Line (which is probably still really bad). I'm more worried about busted safety assignments than anything on defense.
 

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My gut says a 6'5'' WR/ TE doesn't need a lot of separation against a 5'10'' corner or safety. Just extend the arms.

My gut says I don't care if he's 8' 5", if we can force Gardner in to inaccurate thows, Funchess will not destroy our secondary. One thing Gardner has always struggled with is his accuracy when pressured or moved from his drop back set. We need to ensure we do that. However, he's mobile like the Rice QB, which most likely means we won't pressure him because we don't wan him running.
 

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Simply put, win because I hate that he wears #98.


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If Ishaq comes back, I think he fucks Mason Cole up all night. Fuck Michigan.
 

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If Ishaq comes back, I think he fucks Mason Cole up all night. Fuck Michigan.


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My gut says I don't care if he's 8' 5", if we can force Gardner in to inaccurate thows, Funchess will not destroy our secondary. One thing Gardner has always struggled with is his accuracy when pressured or moved from his drop back set. We need to ensure we do that. However, he's mobile like the Rice QB, which most likely means we won't pressure him because we don't wan him running.

Then we arrive at the same conclusion lol. Can't blitz Gardner, Funchess a head taller than everyone in ND secondary. No one is sold on the UM run game yet. If their O line is even average ND is in trouble
 
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