Rioting in St Louis

[cody1smith]

Just looked there has been 5 more murders than there has homes built. since 2007

 

[cody1smith]

Sad thing about Ferguson is 14 years ago it was a great city! My father and his siblings grew up there and raised me there till I was 10. Still have aunts, uncles and grandparents that live in Ferguson/Florrisant. About 13 years ago people started moving from inner city to Ferguson/Florrisant. The folks that had been there then started to move out towards St. Charles and St. Peters and now population has spread out into Wentzville and beyond.

I was back there a couple weeks before all this went down to visit family and all of my old stomping grounds are ran to shit. McCluer/Normandy/McCluer North are all horrible HS and I am pretty sure Normandy still has no accreditation and is ran by the state. Last I read it isn't even part of a district. My niece spent last school year with all the Normandy kids being shuttled out to Francis Howell and after a while, the parents were surprised at the students and started to question why only so few were being sent to better schools.

These riots go back to the lack of education in the area. Sadly, many of these people were raised with horrible education and no appreciation for anything in a town that was, not so long ago, a great place to live!

I don't know all the specifics behind how education works but I do believe that something more should have been done a long time ago to save this community.

WIthout touching on either side of Brown/WIlson... this is the result of a city that was left for dead, IMO.

Very sad I agree. It is happening to all of the areas around the city. The population of st Louis has been cut in half in the last fifty yrars or so. These people are 3 or 4 generations deep of shit bums. There is nothing that can be done about them. Its to far gone. There is nothing wrong with our education system. It is the people that are put in it. The school I went to was a complete piece of shit. Didn't have high standards for grades or great teachers or anything fancy what so ever. But for the most part every student that I went to elementary school with came from a decent family and guess what they all turned out decent. Now I know there exceptions to the rule. So I don't need a list of people that kicked ass coming from a shit family.

I do some business with a woman who also takes in kids from the area for a while until they can locate them a home. Kids that the state takes from shitty parents. She told me last week that she has been talking with the birth mother of a young boy she housed 10 years ago and ended up adopting. The mother maybe 25 years old now told her that she knew back to her great grand parents and as far as she knew no one had ever had a job. Said she thought some of them might have worked some here and there but could not recall ever hearing of a actual job. This is the normal. They don't have to be smart or go to school or hold jobs or learn that you cant destroy private property and mess up the lives of the people in a town because you are pissed off over something that happened. Right or wrong.

 

[BobbyMac]

Very sad I agree. It is happening to all of the areas around the city. The population of st Louis has been cut in half in the last fifty yrars or so. These people are 3 or 4 generations deep of shit bums. There is nothing that can be done about them. Its to far gone. There is nothing wrong with our education system. It is the people that are put in it. The school I went to was a complete piece of shit. Didn't have high standards for grades or great teachers or anything fancy what so ever. But for the most part every student that I went to elementary school with came from a decent family and guess what they all turned out decent. Now I know there exceptions to the rule. So I don't need a list of people that kicked ass coming from a shit family.

I do some business with a woman who also takes in kids from the area for a while until they can locate them a home. Kids that the state takes from shitty parents. She told me last week that she has been talking with the birth mother of a young boy she housed 10 years ago and ended up adopting. The mother maybe 25 years old now told her that she knew back to her great grand parents and as far as she knew no one had ever had a job. Said she thought some of them might have worked some here and there but could not recall ever hearing of a actual job. This is the normal. They don't have to be smart or go to school or hold jobs or learn that you cant destroy private property and mess up the lives of the people in a town because you are pissed off over something that happened. Right or wrong.

Its not their fault... Its the system's.

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[BobD]

Things are starting to get heated again tonight.

Do innocent protesters wear bandanas over their face?

Side note: If I was a cop at a protest and I had the opportunity to shoot rubber bullets....I'd shoot them in the nuts then laugh my ass off.

 

[BobD]

Tear gas and stun grenades fired

 

[AvesEvo]

Things are starting to get heated again tonight.

Do innocent protesters wear bandanas over their face?

Side note: If I was a cop at a protest and I had the opportunity to shoot rubber bullets....I'd shoot them in the nuts then laugh my ass off.

Keffiyehs are a symbol of resistance. They are used to hide your identity, protect eyes from tear gas, wipe away blood and tears and stop blood.

 

[cody1smith]

Its not their fault... Its the system's.

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don't get me started on this

 

[anarin]

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apparently the cops version of the story

 

[BobD]

The only protesters I've seen so far are obvious troublemakers.

The amount of media out there is ridiculous.

Cracks me up to hear some protestor say " the cops are being antagonistic by their presents"

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

The only protesters I've seen so far are obvious troublemakers.

That's because, like usual, you aren't paying attention or are just seeing what you want to see. There are plenty of people holding peaceful rallies and people who are rioting.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

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apparently the cops version of the story

So it's gone from he knew about the stolen rillos to not knowing and back to knowing.

 

[BobD]

Hilarious

On camera the police tell a CNN reporter to please leave the area because there has been a gun shot victim and the area isn't safe. While still filming the CNN reporter says he's going to stay put and see what his producer wants him to do. I never knew news producers orders override police orders.

 

[West Coast Domer]

I don't understand arresting a truck full of people with their hands up but the STL police must know something we don't.

 

[phork]

Sad thing about Ferguson is 14 years ago it was a great city!
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So was Detroit before 1968, those blacks ruin everything.

 

[peoriairish]

So it's gone from he knew about the stolen rillos to not knowing and back to knowing.

The way I took it is that he was aware the robbery happened but unaware of any description of the perp. That's how I took it from the PC a few days ago when they came out with the story.

 

[peoriairish]

I don't understand arresting a truck full of people with their hands up but the STL police must know something we don't.

This almost always tends to be the case.... that the police know something we don't.

And Title.... BobD isn't only seeing what he wants to see. He saw exactly what was there. His post was at 11:19 local time and at that time, all the peaceful protesters had gone home. All that was left were instigators.

I was actually somewhat proud of the community last night by seeing the number of people trying to stay between the instigators and police. The community was trying to self police last night on may accounts. Pastor Robinson was doing a fantastic job and it reminded you that there are people out there for the right reasons.

 

[BobD]

Maybe they could have a daytime protest? In my experience hoodlums don't like daylight.

 

[NDohio]

So it's gone from he knew about the stolen rillos to not knowing and back to knowing.

Yep - just like the Notre Dame football scandal. The story is going to change twenty times based on speculation and media snippets that come from who knows where.

Maybe we should wait for the investigation to be completed before placing blame on either side.

 

[wizards8507]

Maybe we should wait for the investigation to be completed before placing blame on either side.

Maybe the people of Ferguson should wait for the investigation to be completed before burning down gas stations and smashing through restaurants.

 

[NDohio]

Maybe the people of Ferguson should wait for the investigation to be completed before burning down gas stations and smashing through restaurants.

But the rioting and looting is doing a good job of taking attention from what might be the real story. You know, that it wasn't some rogue killer cop stalking the neighborhoods of Ferguson.

 

[Booslum31]

Maybe they could have a daytime protest? In my experience hoodlums don't like daylight.

But the rioters and looters would be at work during the day...right?

 

[peoriairish]

It makes my skin crawl when the public calls it an assassination or execution. It's infuriating. Just let it play out. I'm just concerned that even if all the evidence point towards a good shooting that the community is still going to say it's a lie and a cover-up causing tensions to rise even further.

 

[phork]

The tox report will be interesting. If that story is true from that friend of the family. Shooting atleast 6 times from 35 feet away, twice in the head is a little odd. Now I am no expert on guns, and ranges or where one shoots exactly when someone is running towards you from 35feet away, but I'm thinking a leg shot might have done it.

 

[peoriairish]

I shoot fairly often and trust me, placing a leg shot at 35 ft while under duress at a moving object is very, very challenging. Police are trained to shoot center mass.

 

[RDU Irish]

Things are starting to get heated again tonight.

Do innocent protesters wear bandanas over their face?

Side note: If I was a cop at a protest and I had the opportunity to shoot rubber bullets....I'd shoot them in the nuts then laugh my ass off.

LOL - Wouldn't be so damn funny if it wasn't true.

 

[RDU Irish]

So whatever happened to no-snitching? How are there oodles of witnesses against the cop but some gang banger shoots up a crowd and nobody sees nothing.

 

[Booslum31]

So whatever happened to no-snitching? How are there oodles of witnesses against the cop but some gang banger shoots up a crowd and nobody sees nothing.

You are on to something here.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

The tox report will be interesting. If that story is true from that friend of the family. Shooting atleast 6 times from 35 feet away, twice in the head is a little odd. Now I am no expert on guns, and ranges or where one shoots exactly when someone is running towards you from 35feet away, but I'm thinking a leg shot might have done it.

Shooting for a leg increases the chance of someone getting hit behind the target or just missing. You aim at the point that's most likely to not hurt someone else.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Why the fuck do videos auto-play now? It's obnoxious.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Maybe the people of Ferguson should wait for the investigation to be completed before burning down gas stations and smashing through restaurants.

Most of that isn't from residents of Ferguson. Most of the people that have been arrested are not from Ferguson.